Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

abe supercro

abe supercro

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Original GDP is from Indians, that's some bs folklore, is it not? fellas please be patient with me while I try to figure out the origin of all this genetics stuff.

akhiymjames said:
People have to understand this is a touchy situation to even talk about I'm sure cus of the love you had for him so emotions and stuff can run high. I'm just glad everyone can be adults and not be acting like kids and internet gangsters
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Internet gangsters are the worst! followed behind real-life gangsters of course.
AK it's cool if you're a top secret mod, just as long as it's not you deleting my posts. lol

I'll try not to step on anyones toes carelessly or unnecessarily, but you have to understand that when pursuing certain genetics i need to know significant liberties haven't been taken. I'd want to know BOTH sides of the story, or at least do my due-diligence to fill in the blanks before siding up with an apparent victor of a genetic seed bank. Honesty and ethics, ultimately are more important to me than some killer dank.

These guys were partners. Or more like, DV was under employ by Ken to perform certain tasks or projects. Yeah that sucks if Ken didn't properly compensate his nu star breeder, but what happens after that seems still open to interpretation. If DV, aka 'NW GDP rep', chose to stay on for years, without pay, then that's on him obviously. But why would he do such a thing? the rep -chose- to stay on for that duration.

Ken Estes has failing health, he's an old man who has worked for decades and is legendary in the medical cannabis world. He has built a name and a brand. I have no clue about this new guy (NW GDP rep) who formed his new company, in-part, off kens success. Hate to say it, but it appears that both of these guys screwed each other over. No? To me, it seems plain as day, but maybe I'm not informed yet. How anyone can see dv as a victim of ken is currently beyond my ability to comprehend.

How about before I pipe-in again with anything else I'll complete reading this thread from the beginning, and start with the other material available on the subject. have a good day genetics people.

Some believe that objects have memories, especially living objects. those memories are a form of energy that accompanies them wherever they go along their journey through life and beyond.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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abe supercro said:
Original GDP is from Indians, that's some bs folklore, is it not? fellas please be patient with me while I try to figure out the origin of all this genetics stuff.



Internet gangsters are the worst! followed behind real-life gangsters of course.
AK it's cool if you're a top secret mod, just as long as it's not you deleting my posts. lol

I'll try not to step on anyones toes carelessly or unnecessarily, but you have to understand that when pursuing certain genetics i need to know significant liberties haven't been taken. I'd want to know BOTH sides of the story, or at least do my due-diligence to fill in the blanks before siding up with an apparent victor of a genetic seed bank. Honesty and ethics, ultimately are more important to me than some killer dank.

These guys were partners. Or more like, DV was under employ by Ken to perform certain tasks or projects. Yeah that sucks if Ken didn't properly compensate his nu star breeder, but what happens after that seems still open to interpretation. If DV, aka 'NW GDP rep', chose to stay on for years, without pay, then that's on him obviously. But why would he do such a thing? the rep -chose- to stay on for that duration.

Ken Estes has failing health, he's an old man who has worked for decades and is legendary in the medical cannabis world. He has built a name and a brand. I have no clue about this new guy (NW GDP rep) who formed his new company, in-part, off kens success. Hate to say it, but it appears that both of these guys screwed each other over. No? To me, it seems plain as day, but maybe I'm not informed yet. How anyone can see dv as a victim of ken is currently beyond my ability to comprehend.

How about before I pipe-in again with anything else I'll complete reading this thread from the beginning, and start with the other material available on the subject. have a good day genetics people.

Some believe that objects have memories, especially living objects. those memories are a form of energy that accompanies them wherever they go along their journey through life and beyond.
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Naw bro believe when I say I'm not a mod just a fellow member like you so it wasnt me who deleted anything. Bro your fine with me and when it comes to someones opinion about something they want to know or on something they see I cant be mad with that. That's what this forum is for...for people to ask questions about what they read and hear. Some will ask questions or make statements that some people may not and those people may think someone shouldn't say those things but there's always someone who's gonna say stuff that others aren't afraid to say. So your good with me bro always have been and always will be.

The situation between Ken and DVG is a complicated issue I'll bet on it and you can prolly see points of views from both people. Yes Ken is known in the canna community but its widely known that he has lied numerous times and has very shady practices its all over the net. So after seeing all what has been said about him and when DVG came here and spoke about the same shady stuff that others have spoke on its hard not to believe what DVG says. I dont see how he formed DVG off Kens success when lots of people dont even know DVG has gear or grown it. Ken didnt have anything in stock for over a year till I saw these new crosses for sale at NGR and they were the only ones to have them at first. If Ken lost all the original parents and the new crosses was made with DVG stock then I can see why he left and put those under his own brand. After NGR had them all the other banks followed suit and a couple months after that NGR posted Kens GDP was being changed to DVG so thats why I made this thread. I thought all the banks would list gear under DVG but when it wasnt you can clearly see something was up. I believe Ken is shady remember Bay11? The different stories he's told about the GDP? I dont think DVG is a victim but he was def done wrong but like DVG said he looked up to him so us looking on the outside in will never understand their situation. All I can go by is what I was told and the facts point to Ken being shady so thats what I believe. Long as gear is fire I'll grow both
 
Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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akhiymjames said:
GG#4 is everywhere bro. I'm sure you will be able to find it. If not you hang around here long enough and make good friends you will get it
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Did you get your cut? Is it worth the effort?


akhiymjames said:
Naw bro believe when I say I'm not a mod just a fellow member..........
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You're more even tempered and fair minded than anyone on RIU that I can think of. IMO, you'd be a much better ' mod ' than the one that generally patrols this area....but then, so would most anyone. :cool:
 
akhiymjames

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medicropper07 said:
Tip of the day

Ak is one of the best strain testers on the forum

Peace
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Peace bro and much love to you

Amos Otis said:
Did you get your cut? Is it worth the effort?




You're more even tempered and fair minded than anyone on RIU that I can think of. IMO, you'd be a much better ' mod ' than the one that generally patrols this area....but then, so would most anyone. :cool:
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Its still vegging bro I haven't flowered her out yet. She's in my thread she's big in a 5gal right now. Thinking of putting it outside but not sure what to do family is supposed to be coming in August the 2nd week so I'll prolly wait till after they leave cus she stinks :)

Yea that's just me bro you know how I am. I wouldnt' wanna be a mod on RIU I love it here but some people just be off the wall lol. I know everyone has they're own opinion but lots of people don't know how to express it and be adults about it so couldn't do it but I love it here tho :)
 
eastcoastmo

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Dungeons_Vault said:
So, first off, for laughs, go google ken estes - the origins of granddaddy purple

With that said, Ken took whatever "Kens GDP" clone is, apparently from the Indians, or what they like to be called now that there is civilization, the natives, and crossed it with a male bagseed from a lb. of GDP nug. He said they found a seed, and it stated the GDP seed line. Lots of killer stuff has come from the packs, but in the end, its sort of a mystery. We can say it is GDP x (GDP x ??)
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Wow, there seems to be such little (valuable anyway) info on it when it's such massive strain. So many stories!!
The part I get confused about is where it says that it has purple urkle in it but then you look up purple urkle and it says it's a phenotype of GDP...lol that is just ridiculous!
Thanks for the reply @Dungeons_Vault glad to have you in here answering questions :)
That purple champagne looks delicious!!
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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eastcoastmo said:
Wow, there seems to be such little (valuable anyway) info on it when it's such massive strain. So many stories!!
The part I get confused about is where it says that it has purple urkle in it but then you look up purple urkle and it says it's a phenotype of GDP...lol that is just ridiculous!
Thanks for the reply @Dungeons_Vault glad to have you in here answering questions :)
That purple champagne looks delicious!!
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Yea that's what a lot of us mean by saying Ken is shady too many stories on GDP lol. How can you trust someone like that and for DVG to come here and explain what happened to him and his dealings with Ken I applaud him. His story hasn't changed not one bit and its good to have a breeder over here that comes through and respond about whatever anyone has to ask. Hope he stays around cus when I get those Grandpas Breath I def want him to see
 
King Arthur

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eastcoastmo said:
Yeah totally agree bro, it's great having legit breeders in here helping us enthusiasts with our many questions :)
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I believe that is what this community is supposed to be about, unfortunately we all have a little pride, ego, and attitude at times and it tends to break apart the beauty. I flip flop from nice as fuck to I wanna beat you in the face with a 6 lb dildo pretty fast. That has everything to do with my own issues and when I am not medicating it is easier to fly from 1-10 in 2.3 seconds.

He has passion for the plant and the community that is all that matters, all the drama needs to go away and we all need to get back to the good good. I think it is time we start a new thread for DVG that doesn't involve Ken in it.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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That's up to you guys if you think we should start a new thread for DVG. I think this one is pretty good even tho it has some stuff about the whole situation between them to its good to know how stuff went down plus these info threads for breeders is gonna have a lil drama. Hell Bodhi and GGG info thread is full of it lol but it also has great info in it to and I believe this one will too once we start focusing more on the gear and not on the beef between them.

If anybody is running any of the new crosses whether it be under the old brand or new please post info. Anybody that has DVG gear and is running it please post some info here. Soon as I get those Grandpas Breaths I'll be posting here for sure. I want the Purple Champagne too
 
eastcoastmo

eastcoastmo

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King Arthur said:
I believe that is what this community is supposed to be about, unfortunately we all have a little pride, ego, and attitude at times and it tends to break apart the beauty. I flip flop from nice as fuck to I wanna beat you in the face with a 6 lb dildo pretty fast. That has everything to do with my own issues and when I am not medicating it is easier to fly from 1-10 in 2.3 seconds.

He has passion for the plant and the community that is all that matters, all the drama needs to go away and we all need to get back to the good good. I think it is time we start a new thread for DVG that doesn't involve Ken in it.
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Agreed mate, sometimes pride etc does get in the way, as long as we can recognise it and move past, it's all good and roses :-D
 
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