Interesting last line there.....Every thread you walk into....You take it over like your the GOD,,,,It's "your right" and you argue that someone else that answers is wrong........Defoliation..A hands on approach......is a perfect example.....Your the one answering questions in that godly manor... And by the way,,,,,I've done the defoliation side by side - It's NOT worth the result.....Overblown and simply another "logic" myth......
Hell yes I'm cheap,,,,I look for every way I can save $ in my grows.....And the #1 way is to not buy into the BULLSHIT that most nutrient companies spew forth......Advanced is the worst! Do their products work? Yes, but your paying to much for to little and many of the "wonder" chem's you flat out don't need to get "The best result possible".....Then you have H&G. Another one for having lots of parts that "must have"..to get "their best" results.....FAH! What crap! Cyco out of Aus. Another lots of parts and way to expensive maker....Works great,,,but you can do just as good for far less! The way you talk, shows you believe that to do well you have to use this and that and buy factory made, lab invented nutrition.....More Horse shit!
That should about cover 1 through 6....
Now on 7, Flushing......Let me guess. You "tested" the diff and found flushing better......Sure, ok, fine...LOL
Flush away dude,,,,,do what you believe......Flushing multiple gallons of water per gallon of pot size does NOTHING to improve flavor or the burn! Using a flushing agent - Simply puts money in the makers pocket and does the same nothing to flavor...Name me one,,,ONE thing farmed in soil or hydro that gets flushed before any human consumption? How about any other smoked plant? Where did this flushing idea come from? Logic? Logic doesn't work well in growing.....Why does this work?
Please explain WHY flushing works? Can you do it all uncomplicated......I would prefer you do it with the science of why it works.....Or does removing nutrition from your plant at a critical time get cancelled by your need for "flavor"?...
Anyway,,,after I read this retort....I'm on ignore.
DOC
"Crazy Shit"
P.S. Molasses is another overrated/overstated old school semi myth.....It does FAR less then you state.....Feed the Bio's, yup that's right, for the most part......Where the hell did you get "condition's the soil?"
Oh, and BTW. When I mention "Ben". How do you "know" just who I'm referring to?
I am becoming more and more convinced that this is PIC......The one thing you don't address is that one....Not to mention you type like the same crap he did....Hmmm
Listen idk who "Pic" is or some code name for something but I dont care.
Im not interested in arguing man. You obv believe what you believe and thats all good. We have agree to disagree.
I dont use flushing products at all never said I did. I said I use enzymes and water. Once heavy metals are in your flowers from heavy feeding synthetics the shit isnt gonna flush out regardless. But you can flush out and reduce the extra salts and nutrients stored in the leaves and plant by just using water for final weeks. Last time i checked no nutrient companies make money off of telling you to flush with water for 2 weeks.
If flushing didnt work companies wud want u to keep feeding more nutrients wudnt they? They wud want u to run nutrients all way til end more money for them. Most companies who know tell you to flush for minimum 1 week why is that if it doesnt work?
Its a redundant point just like defoliation. You say it doesnt work I say I know it does.
Since u want me to answer questions, answer this one question: do you think when growing large plants indoors that you should lollipop your plants?
The answer is YES, and lollipopping is a form of defoliation. You are removing branches and leaves that dont get light and will never grow good quality flowers. So u remove them to focus on the upper canopy. This is defoliation.
Some strains when you order them via seed in their instructions will even tell you out right. If u grow this strain in scrog style or heavily packed areas you may want to defoliate to increase light penetration and reduce risks of molds and fungus. Defoliation isnt just used for increasing yields, strains susceptible to molds and fungi benefit from defoliation reducing the risks for problems in your garden.
Defoliation began NOT IN CANNABIS CULTIVATION, but is a horticultural practice in harvesting legumes, "beans", tomatoes, peas, apples etc..
If u grow tomatoes u should know damn well that on a leaf set when the flowet clusters form usually in groups of 4-5 flowers that will turn into tomatoes. If u remove 3 of them and focus on growing just the other 2 your tomatoes will increase in size by redirecting the energy and focus on those main fruit sites.
People use these techniques and brought them indoors into cannabis gardens and said if this works on all these other plants for farmers it shud work for us. So they tried it and realized removing lower, light deprived branches and shoots drives production of the upper canopy forcing larger denser flower production. Its not hard to understand man it really isnt. Theres tons of information on the web at book stores anywhere regarding this subject. And its not just for cannabis it goes for alot of plants and farmers who use defoliation techniques of all kinds.
These are all types of defoliation:
Lollipopping
Selective leaf removal
Site and branch removal
And listen i never said that defoliation is the end all be all of increasing yields etc. i said I defoliate because the strains im running respond well to it and I see a difference in my final product. Nothing but premium quality flowers, if u grow for quality and want nothing but chunks that u need to get ur money to give dispensaries and patients all that fluff is just a waste of time and draws away nutrients and energy from the shit u want to focus on which is ur tops.
Some strains dont like defoliation and can lose yield and fck the whole plants metabolism and growth completely. This is especially true for most sativa strains. I dont grow those I grow indicas primarily or hybrids. Strains that are meant specifically to grow indoors.
Outdoors you dont need to defoliate, theres ample amounts of light and plenty of space, air flow etc.. And u dont wanna defoliate outdoors because bugs will also move up your plant into your main canopy given the chance. Thats just one small reason on a large scale. Defoliation is just one tool and trick to focus and grow only premium top shelf flowers by driving all energy and resources to the part of the plant receiving all the light where all the photosynthesis, auxins and hormones are being driven. Since cannabis grows via apical dominance that hottom shit no matter how much light u have will never be anything.
So defoliate the shit take it off and grow out nuttin but chunk tops. Its a simple process and it works. Idk what the arguments about. Either u do it and u benefit or u dont do it and u got tons of larf and shit to trim at the end. And reduced bud size and potential at ur canopy.
So how can u say it doesnt work when its practiced and books written about it from master growers all over the world man.
Cmon dude just stop it. I understand ur rant about nutrient companies, i get it. They want u to over feed and use all kinds of products u dont really need. Well ur a sucker if u buy the shit u dont need.
I buy the shit from them i do need and that I like. Growing for along time and I know what Im feeding my plants and use a mixture of products from various companies not just one lineup. I never recommend anyone to use just str8 one nutrient line some product are better in different groups and classes and u shud find shit u like the best.
Molasses does condition the soil. If u know the definition of condition maybe you would understand it better.
Condition: the state of something, especially in regards to the appearance, quality, and working order
Conditioner: a substance or appliance used to improve something's condition
Molasses is a substance, that aids in improving the condition of your soil by supplying microbes and beneficial a healthy environment to populate, break down nutrients and thrive.
Molasses also contains potash, sulphur and many other trace elements in quantities available to your plants.
Molasses also acts as a natural chelating agent and helps turn unusable nutrients into useable easily absorbed forms by breaking down the soil and conditioning it to make it more sustainable and hospitable to microbial life.
Maybe ignorance of the words is whats making my posts hard for u to understand ny apologies. Figure since u like using big scientific words to describe a weed plant u wud know simple and common household terminology such as condition.