Vertical cage match, 32K watts, 32 plants

Carolina Dream'n

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Dont even need to do the math really...if running a diesel genny is cheaper than power from the grid...why isn't all types of manufacturing using generators for primary power?

fuck for that matter...why doesn't every home use a generator?
Everyone doesn't use them at home because the price difference between the two isn't great enough to warrant it. People are not paying .32 a kWh anywhere but Cali. It's usually .10.

The price difference between tuning a generator an paying .32 a kWh is definitely warranted.

This isn't going to save you money anywhere but Cali, but it will keep you off the grid.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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35k generator at 80 percent is 28k
28000/220 is 127 amps.

16 1000s at 5 amps at piece. 80 amps
3 24k mini splits. 30 amps
2 170 pint dehumidifer 10 amps
Total of 120 amps.

In no way am I maxing out the machine.
 

rkymtnman

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That isn't the same brand, the one I am referring to is a Detroit diesel. One of the best on the markets. Gets around 1.25 gallons an hour.
i need to look up how much i pay a kW. i can get one of the Army 5kW diesel gensets for pretty cheap. i also can get ag diesel too though not sure on what it is per gallon.

you think the return on investment is if your electric is 10cents or higher?
 

Carolina Dream'n

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i need to look up how much i pay a kW. i can get one of the Army 5kW diesel gensets for pretty cheap. i also can get ag diesel too though not sure on what it is per gallon.

you think the return on investment is if your electric is 10cents or higher?
I only think it is worth it if you pay more than .25 a kWh or if you want to stay off the power grid.
 

Joedank

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Dont even need to do the math really...if running a diesel genny is cheaper than power from the grid...why isn't all types of manufacturing using generators for primary power?

fuck for that matter...why doesn't every home use a generator?
yo dude its ALOT cheaper ... why the fuck are megawatt converters all over the southwest....MEGAWATT propane to current ...BIG$$$
 

ttystikk

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yo dude its ALOT cheaper ... why the fuck are megawatt converters all over the southwest....MEGAWATT propane to current ...BIG$$$
I did not understand this. What do you mean?

My money is on fuel cells;
Up to 65% efficient
Emit only heat, water vapor and CO²- ALL are useful byproducts for agriculture!
Feedstock is natural gas
Nearly silent operation
Solid state components for greater reliability and low maintenance
 

Joedank

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I did not understand this. What do you mean?

My money is on fuel cells;
Up to 65% efficient
Emit only heat, water vapor and CO²- ALL are useful byproducts for agriculture!
Feedstock is natural gas
Nearly silent operation
Solid state components for greater reliability and low maintenance
sorry i said propane but ment natural gas...stoner...
i mean mega watt gensets running on natural gas out in the sticks here in southwest colorado . with lots of venture captial money getting involeved . the run one near a climning area i go to . its crazy
http://trib.com/business/energy/the-big-switch-utilities-conversion-from-coal-to-natural-gas/article_d3d15b5f-cd0d-5af9-aebd-3280e68884d8.html
WHAT NOONE TALKS ABOUT:
so these wells are in crazy areas so transmission cables have less red tape , than gas lines thur wilderness ATM...
i am a member of a energy coop and they throw around alot of ideas for "local energy"
 

ttystikk

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sorry i said propane but ment natural gas...stoner...
i mean mega watt gensets running on natural gas out in the sticks here in southwest colorado . with lots of venture captial money getting involeved . the run one near a climning area i go to . its crazy
http://trib.com/business/energy/the-big-switch-utilities-conversion-from-coal-to-natural-gas/article_d3d15b5f-cd0d-5af9-aebd-3280e68884d8.html
WHAT NOONE TALKS ABOUT:
so these wells are in crazy areas so transmission cables have less red tape , than gas lines thur wilderness ATM...
i am a member of a energy coop and they throw around alot of ideas for "local energy"
Ok now I got you. I've actually visited some of the power plants mentioned in the article!

I believe that fuel cell technology will also come down in price and its efficiency advantages over old style fired boiler and turbine electrical production will render the massive power plants all but obsolete, in favour of small fuel cells everywhere people need power, like homes, offices, shopping malls- AND greenhouses!
 
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rkymtnman

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sorry i said propane but ment natural gas...stoner...
i mean mega watt gensets running on natural gas out in the sticks here in southwest colorado . with lots of venture captial money getting involeved . the run one near a climning area i go to . its crazy
http://trib.com/business/energy/the-big-switch-utilities-conversion-from-coal-to-natural-gas/article_d3d15b5f-cd0d-5af9-aebd-3280e68884d8.html
WHAT NOONE TALKS ABOUT:
so these wells are in crazy areas so transmission cables have less red tape , than gas lines thur wilderness ATM...
i am a member of a energy coop and they throw around alot of ideas for "local energy"
are you talking about some of those wells between pagosa and durango? those are nat gas, huh? was always curious what those were.
 

Joedank

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are you talking about some of those wells between pagosa and durango? those are nat gas, huh? was always curious what those were.
also the montrose to utah border and south to new mexico border . mainly the dissapointment valley / naturita area.. if your a desert rat like me :) 4X4 only and most the roads only go past wells and sage lol
 

rkymtnman

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also the montrose to utah border and south to new mexico border . mainly the dissapointment valley / naturita area.. if your a desert rat like me :) 4X4 only and most the roads only go past wells and sage lol
haven't been to DUR in awhile. it is about time for a visit to Ska brewing.

have you grown or smoked any of the strains from La Plata Labs?

not a desert rat just yet. i'm having my motor built for my Dodge right now. and can't wait to get her on the road again.
 

ttystikk

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also the montrose to utah border and south to new mexico border . mainly the dissapointment valley / naturita area.. if your a desert rat like me :) 4X4 only and most the roads only go past wells and sage lol
I worked for the evil corporation Halliburton for a little while, dispatching at their Grand Junction office. We sent a lot of crews down that way. There are thousands of wellheads out there.
 

legallyflying

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Our architect is running the numbers for a large natural gas fired turbine generator. He is talking 2-3 year pay back but 8 have yet to see the numbers.

We will have to get our rec license and see how that pans out first.

Ohh.. can I go back and get a bullshit on the 2lbs per light at 36w a Sq ft please? Lol
 
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