Replacing my 600w hps with CBX3590 Cobs. Need help!

bicit

bicit

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Vescovi said:
@bicit
Can I use 8 CXB3590 COBS with two MW 185 700b?
What wattage and PPFD a bar like this would have?

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nogod_ said:
Going to be cutting it close....
286v max for that model dont know if anyone has tried squeezing 288v draw on 185h-c700 but seem to remember it being a hard cap.
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You should be able to fit 8 of the 36v version on an HLG-185H-C700. The Vf of each emitter should actually be 32-33v, and the maximum voltage output is 286v.

(35v)x8emitters in series=280v in a worse case scenario. ~370PPFD over a 4x4. Two of said bars would be ~740PPFD. Very quick and dirty figures.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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Actionbone said:
Well maybe now you have cxa/cxb and different colors!! Btw your last grow is ended?
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Yeah I hate fucking trimming lol. the 4x4 tent I trimmed last week and got 326 grams from 3 plants under 372 watt it would have been 4 plants but 1 took a shit on me but it was my fault I accidentally unhooked the feed line and when I noticed it was too late lol I still got .88 gpw and I had my panels turned down to 186watts per panel no ac at all. I say winning in my book. I can't wait to winter full power. I'll have a different gpw when I finish trimming the 4x8 tent so far I'm gonna get at least 1 gpw.
 
nogod_

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Assumed he was using 72v version because he said 2x meanwells. If so Im off anyway should be 70v per so 280 total. Still close but I believe doable. Havent been on here in a couple months so i gotta catchup on all these cxb builds.

bicit said:
You should be able to fit 8 of the 36v version on an HLG-185H-C700. The Vf of each emitter should actually be 32-33v, and the maximum voltage output is 286v.

(35v)x8emitters in series=280v in a worse case scenario. ~370PPFD over a 4x4. Two of said bars would be ~740PPFD. Very quick and dirty figures.
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Vescovi

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@bicit
You should be able to fit 8 of the 36v version on an HLG-185H-C700. The Vf of each emitter should actually be 32-33v, and the maximum voltage output is 286v.

(35v)x8emitters in series=280v in a worse case scenario. ~370PPFD over a 4x4. Two of said bars would be ~740PPFD. Very quick and dirty figures.
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WOW... I have ordered already... 16 CXB 3500 72V...
Did I do something wrong? 4x (edited) MW 185-700c mA won't push them?
 
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churchhaze

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Vescovi said:
WOW... I have ordered already... 16 CXB 3500 72V...
Did I do something wrong? 4x (edited) MW 185-700c mA won't push them?
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If the max voltage is 286V, then you should be able to put somewhere around 3-4 cobs per driver. I'm not sure if it's 3 or 4. It's cutting it close. Try to worry about total PPF more than PPFD while designing a lamp. PPFD just means you're focusing the light together more. It's better to have even lighting distribution than high PPFD toward the center and low PPFD on the outskirts.
 
Actionbone

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Vescovi you must learn to read... We are telling you same thinks every time, I said you like 2-3 times you going to have 48.8w per cob so if you have 16 you got 780.8w and you have to add driver loss + fans. And I'm lost about your grow area you said 4,5x5 then 4x4....
 
Vescovi

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churchhaze said:
If the max voltage is 286V, then you should be able to put somewhere around 3-4 cobs per driver. I'm not sure if it's 3 or 4. It's cutting it close. Try to worry about total PPF more than PPFD while designing a lamp. PPFD just means you're focusing the light together more. It's better to have even lighting distribution than high PPFD toward the center and low PPFD on the outskirts.
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Now I am scared shitless I did something wrong... COBS DRIVERS FF SAKE... Easier said then done.

I don't really understand PPFD in depth, I do think I understand uMoles or micromoles a bit better PAR... Optimal PAR for plants around 1500 uMoles for what little i have read.
 
Vescovi

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Actionbone said:
Vescovi you must learn to read... We are telling you same thinks every time, I said you like 2-3 times you going to have 48.8w per cob so if you have 16 you got 780.8w and you have to add driver loss + fans. And I'm lost about your grow area you said 4,5x5 then 4x4....
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The tray I build for my plants is 4x4. The small closet is 4,5x5 roughly...

Sorry, but I am a bit confused with all the info...
 
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churchhaze

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Vescovi said:
Now I am scared shitless I did something wrong... COBS DRIVERS FF SAKE... Easier said then done.

I don't really understand PPFD in depth, I do think I understand uMoles or micromoles a bit better PAR... Optimal PAR for plants around 1500 uMoles for what little i have read.
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PPF is a measure of total photon flux (umol/s) while PPFD is the density of that photon flux. (photon flux/area)
 
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Vescovi

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I want to build a 8x CXB3590s heatsink slab 10"x 24" with TWO MW 185 700b (dimable), because I am moving to a different room that I think will be the SHIATZZ, that's why. Sorry i did not say that... the room will probably need 3 of those.

My company has CNC, metal laser cutters and I love to build shit... Please a bit o' patience with the dude here.
I just want to know if i get more light using this setup... Compared to the last discussed...
 
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