Vero18 and Vero29 Test Grow

LED technology arrived yet?


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smowstack

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The cost of living is higher in the United States of America in comparison to most other countries in the world, hence the higher pricing in comparison to goods made in a country where incomes are a fraction of what the average American brings in yearly.
yes, and what we are finding is, when you are dealing with a product like pot , where there is high demand, and is so easy to grow, Americans will pay more for Made in America. When I am buying a ballpoint pen I may just buy the cheapest, but when I am buying a light, that's a different matter, and that Made in America may just be the thing to move me to pull out my credit card.

I'm not hard core american, I just post to let optics know
 

smowstack

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It looks like the chassis is a drawer from a parts cabinet. Durham mfg sells these for anyone looking to DIY a similar light.
yes, there is probably nothing anybody sells for a profit that you can't make for yourself cheaper. You just keep making those chassis, and if you work hard enough, and sell enough of them you may someday have enough money to buy a light..
 

AquariusPanta

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How about a spider test between this battle of veros.... its free? Jk

38x2.15x2 = 165 watts
Why do they call it optic 200?
I figure it's because bigger numbers are far more attractive to those unfamiliar with the market and has thus become a marketing scheme, much so like how some of the popular purple LED companies - Light House Hydro - advertise their products; "240W Flowering", yet pulls ~130W from wall.

I bet the fan and COB driver inefficiencies get it close to the 200W mark when measuring output from the wall.
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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I figure it's because bigger numbers are far more attractive to those unfamiliar with the market and has thus become a marketing scheme, much so like how some of the popular purple LED companies - Light House Hydro - advertise their products; "240W Flowering", yet pulls ~130W from wall.

I bet the fan and COB driver inefficiencies get it close to the 200W mark when measuring output from the wall.
i think this could be the case and I'd like to think so because it's honest
 

smowstack

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In otherwords, I don't need to DIY, I have enough money to buy
I figure it's because bigger numbers are far more attractive to those unfamiliar with the market and has thus become a marketing scheme, much so like how some of the popular purple LED companies - Light House Hydro - advertise their products; "240W Flowering", yet pulls ~130W from wall.

I bet the fan and COB driver inefficiencies get it close to the 200W mark when measuring output from the wall.
most of us that are new to led only know the old mh numbers, 250,400,600,1000, so we are looking for a number to give us a frame of reference
 

grouch

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You just keep making those chassis, and if you work hard enough, and sell enough of them you may someday have enough money to buy a light..
I'm not making lights to sell... I just noticed a product I recognized and put the info out there, similar to the people pointing out the bridgelux and meanwell components. I could afford one of the prebuilt ones if I wanted it but it wouldn't work in my setup so I built my own, no need for personal attacks.
 

Red1966

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model 6 chassis is fabricated at heavenbright! optic cases have knockouts at each end for airflow! My 200 watt optic has run 31/2 months 12/12 no problems -actually cooler than I anticipated. the optic cases are from other areas of the world! Here is a pic- there is good airflow-I can feel it on my hand- The design is sound and reliable!
Can't see the holes on their website. That little hole isn't going to flow much air. You can feel it because the airflow is constrained to a small orifice, increasing the velocity at that point. Just the fins at that point get cooled, most don't.
 

Red1966

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another nice pic. I hope the naysayers don't overtake this thread. They always think they can build a better light. But they don't know how to market it or sell it. All they know is they can build a light cheaper than what it is selling for. They can't put together a website. They have no idea how to deal with the IRS. They will never become successful because they are still bitching about the cut the credit card company takes.

Carry on. Nobody wants to hear about the cheap DIY lights they can build.[/QUOTE]
So no one should point out an apparent flaw or risk being called a "naysayer"? I think the two examples (Optic and Heavenbrite) were started by exactly the type people you are castigating.
 

smowstack

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I'm not making lights to sell... I just noticed a product I recognized and put the info out there, similar to the people pointing out the bridgelux and meanwell components. I could afford one of the prebuilt ones if I wanted it but it wouldn't work in my setup so I built my own, no need for personal attacks.
ok, sorry, peace...All I am saying is when a member is reviewing a commercially available product, it gets a little old when all you DIY's keep chimbing in that you can do the same thing for less at home in your garage or basement.

For starters, will I need a workbench and a worklight? How much will that cost me? How much is a screwdriver and a soldering iron? Did you figure that into the price of your DIY? And my time is worth something. I like spending it bullshitting on the internet, not cooped up over some workbench in the garage or basement building a light.
 

AquariusPanta

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In otherwords, I don't need to DIY, I have enough money to buy

most of us that are new to led only know the old mh numbers, 250,400,600,1000, so we are looking for a number to give us a frame of reference
Some people like cooking at home, some like going out to eat. There are even those who enjoy switching it up from time to time ;).

I thought the same thing too about LED companies using random numbers for comparison to established lights, such as MH, but 240W isn't 250W, and what does 90W compare to? Again, it seems more like a marketing strategy. Picture a big bag of Doritos but with only a few chips inside.
 

JimmyIndica

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Can't see the holes on their website. That little hole isn't going to flow much air. You can feel it because the airflow is constrained to a small orifice, increasing the velocity at that point. Just the fins at that point get cooled, most don't.
Its been runnin for 31/2 months and still works fine no heat problems , and if something happens their service A+!
 

JimmyIndica

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The vent holes on each end of the optic are 1 3/4 diameter knockouts! Plenty of airflow over the heatsink! I can feel the hot air so I thought that meant it was working?
 

Red1966

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It looks like the chassis is a drawer from a parts cabinet. Durham mfg sells these for anyone looking to DIY a similar light.
Gage pins come in those type boxes as well. The lid, and hence the latch, support the weight of the assembly. The latch is only designed to hold the lid closed, hence the bent wire clasp, not to resist any tension. The case was chosen for its low cost, not suitability for the task.
 

grouch

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ok, sorry, peace...All I am saying is when a member is reviewing a commercially available product, it gets a little old when all you DIY's keep chimbing in that you can do the same thing for less at home in your garage or basement.

For starters, will I need a workbench and a worklight? How much will that cost me? How much is a screwdriver and a soldering iron? Did you figure that into the price of your DIY? And my time is worth something. I like spending it bullshitting on the internet, not cooped up over some workbench in the garage or basement building a light.
I saw someone mention they like the chassis and it was a product I recognized. Reviewing a product is not only about what you want to see. Its also about the components used to make it.

I don't sympathize with your lack of tools or time, that is your choice on how you decide to approach life. I just wanted to help out others with there knowledge of the product being discussed.

Next time you try and make a peace offering don't follow it up with justification for why you felt comfortable attacking others views.
 

JimmyIndica

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ok, sorry, peace...All I am saying is when a member is reviewing a commercially available product, it gets a little old when all you DIY's keep chimbing in that you can do the same thing for less at home in your garage or basement.

For starters, will I need a workbench and a worklight? How much will that cost me? How much is a screwdriver and a soldering iron? Did you figure that into the price of your DIY? And my time is worth something. I like spending it bullshitting on the internet, not cooped up over some workbench in the garage or basement building a light.
Oh yeah! You will love watching these units work there magic! I have noticed that strains have been finishing a week to ten days earlier than breeder rec,and the oil production from the cob spectrum is unmatched >frosty greasy nugs!
 

JimmyIndica

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The case of the optic is very simple ,lightweight and does the job very well! Easy access for owner servicing!
 
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