5 gallon yield vs. 3 gallon

justugh

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lol.. i have vaporized a whole grow with my ac units going bad mid summer.. such a horrible feeling..
i just stopped mine from doing it the temp alarm when off when it hit 90 ..........looks like it time for mini split window shaker is not cutting it
kill my 1000w and using my LEDs with the back ups (thought this might happen )

u got to feel really sorry for all those outdoor ppl ...........temps in the upper 90s 100s unless they are running soaker hoses to keep area wet they are going to under yield

dude that posted if u can think about LED and hid together .........hid gets u a great yield / area of coverage but led thickness with reduction of over all fluffy buds
hid is about 70/30 dense/fluffy
led is about 92/7 dense/fluffy .........plus the right LED u get 3 modes growth flower and UV........that UV rocks last blow test (take a OZ of weed and blow 3 cans of butane) it gave me 6 grams .....before my best was 4.7 using just Hid hps and a all in one LED (that could be off tho i was only dong 2 cans before but i kept noticing a weed smell to the left over blow so upped to 3 no smell now)
 

phil k

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i just stopped mine from doing it the temp alarm when off when it hit 90 ..........looks like it time for mini split window shaker is not cutting it
kill my 1000w and using my LEDs with the back ups (thought this might happen )

u got to feel really sorry for all those outdoor ppl ...........temps in the upper 90s 100s unless they are running soaker hoses to keep area wet they are going to under yield

dude that posted if u can think about LED and hid together .........hid gets u a great yield / area of coverage but led thickness with reduction of over all fluffy buds
hid is about 70/30 dense/fluffy
led is about 92/7 dense/fluffy .........plus the right LED u get 3 modes growth flower and UV........that UV rocks last blow test (take a OZ of weed and blow 3 cans of butane) it gave me 6 grams .....before my best was 4.7 using just Hid hps and a all in one LED (that could be off tho i was only dong 2 cans before but i kept noticing a weed smell to the left over blow so upped to 3 no smell now)
yep after that incident all my HIDs are on temp shut offs.. same thing if it hits 90 they kick the lights off till you come and reset them


so you think led is out performing HID right now?
 

phil k

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I've been having this debate with everyone cause i wanna know the real truth to it.. people say they don't some say they do.. i don't know ..
 

phil k

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i dont wanna compare energy usage or whatever i wanna know can i put a led system in a room that performs as well or outperforms a single 1000w HID in production rates
 

justugh

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yep after that incident all my HIDs are on temp shut offs.. same thing if it hits 90 they kick the lights off till you come and reset them


so you think led is out performing HID right now?
YES ........at the current tech the right light can completely replace a 1000w hid ........the only down side is the start up cost (but i found away around that i contacted the makers of the light not the retailers got my units from them 2 units at the cost of what i would of paid for 1 from retail)

now this is the other great part ........LEDs run cooler so u can almost remove the whole venting u need with a 1000w if u are adding in Co2 and the results of LED and Co2 are great i just did my first full run like that using a tank system the plant went a extra 40 days (auto flowering) i am looking at return of half pound in 112 days
 

phil k

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i don't know i hit 6-7 on long ass
YES ........at the current tech the right light can completely replace a 1000w hid ........the only down side is the start up cost (but i found away around that i contacted the makers of the light not the retailers got my units from them 2 units at the cost of what i would of paid for 1 from retail)

now this is the other great part ........LEDs run cooler so u can almost remove the whole venting u need with a 1000w if u are adding in Co2 and the results of LED and Co2 are great i just did my first full run like that using a tank system the plant went a extra 40 days (auto flowering) i am looking at return of half pound in 112 days
hmm... see the electrical cost isn't a push for me.. i mean obviously it would be great but thats in budget... now getting the same production is another thing while saving cost.. but i just hate the way every two years theres better models.
 

justugh

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i don't know i hit 6-7 on long ass

hmm... see the electrical cost isn't a push for me.. i mean obviously it would be great but thats in budget... now getting the same production is another thing while saving cost.. but i just hate the way every two years theres better models.
i did my work this model will do u well for the 50,000 hours it is rated for
http://www.ledzeal.com/p44.html

the info is in meters not feet ........the units can daisy chain ........and it has 3 built in modes plus allows u to program your own in or set to a manual with no program......so a timer is not needed unless u want it ......and it has all u could possible need with the current tech

if u want info on current pricing click on the contact them i talked to the kevin guy ( they are cool they know this is for weed they do not care and even ask for photos so they can use in ads ).....these are the markers.......they will sell u 1 or 1000 lights(be cool about telling ppl have them contact the makers for the prices ....do not piss off the retailers )
 

justugh

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well the thing about the energy
1000w hid is 12.5 amps atleast ........LED 4.5- 6 so more lights same power

the heat is much lower and again no need for the extra fans if u are Co2 enriching but to do it right u really should go Co2 burner not tanks refilling/exchanging them are a bitch after while

i figured out with help from ppl here what is going to give me a killer room
http://www.amazon.com/Hydro-Innovations-HydroGen-PRO-Generator/dp/B004JKDPKY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1434120192&sr=8-8&keywords=co2 burner
it is a water cooled unit that just needs about 30/50 gallons rez to cycle to keep it cool (they have something that can attach to top and remove the last of the heat )
but just add in a 2 ton mini split (humidity and cooling control)
 

Budsafire10

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try it let us no how u go it all comes down to the grower some guys here could yeild more in a solo cup the a 5 gallon rez cause they no how to grow and what to use when so it all comes down to the grower just like saying when is the world gunna end
Yeah all nutes I grow completely organic compost tea and I can yield 3 ounces per plant using 3 gallon Strain is White Widow plants indoor scrog grow
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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Not ready to pull the trigger on led's yet. This room is 42"x38", 6 plants (3) gallon containers, under a 600hps. Day 42
Lol, LED is gonna be a huge downgrade from what you got going there. You got some super beasty, HEALTHY looking plants, stick with your HID!.

EDIT: unless you're going COB, in that case, I am ignorant, and ignore my comment, because while spendy apparently COB's kick ass.
 
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