Best Flower Temp For Vero29

ReeferDance

ReeferDance

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werm11 said:
Sounds awesome.

So you're running 30/w sq ft in veg? I think you could get away with much less than that in veg. my lamp will be more like 10w/sq ft.
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The goal was to attempt to keep the plants shorter if possible, and I definitely went overkill on all my lamps, haha. :bigjoint:

Still wrestling with some heat issues with 460w in a 3x3. :cry:
 
coolbreez1

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Randomblame said:
View attachment 3422156 View attachment 3422154 I have found these two comparison charts in Vero thread. The second shows relativized values and you can see well that 4.000k has changed significantly with regard to the amount of red. In Vero2.0 actually 4000K the best choice seems to be!
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Awesome information! I guess I was wrong about there not being a huge difference between the V1 and V2 4000k. Looks like there is less blue, which is I remember correctly would increase the stretch a bit, however, it also looks like there is a substantial increase towards the higher end of the spectrum, which I would think should increase the effectiveness of the 4000k when it comes to flowering time.
 
werm11

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ReeferDance said:
The goal was to attempt to keep the plants shorter if possible, and I definitely went overkill on all my lamps, haha. :bigjoint:


Still wrestling with some heat issues with 460w in a 3x3. :cry:
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Well it can always be used as a flowering lamp now if you need to. Definitely not a bad thing
 
testiclees

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Happy Memorial Day!

Here's a ladybud at day one week 8 @ 12.5/11.5.
Is she showing a little K def?

This, again, is under the optic vero 360 at 4k. For the next round I'm gonna attempt 2 diy pontoons for each end of the optic using 2x 2 cxb3070 @1.4, 3k. Any thoughts?


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Randomblame

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Thank you, doc.jpg Yepp, looks like a little k def! But she looks almost ready and I would not fertilize so late about the taste.

The Optics make an incredible good job! The Ladybud looks really really great! The Vero's seems to be really awesome and I envy you on your harvest, Lol!
With your 2x2 Pontoons your room will may burst, hehe!
 
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testiclees

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Thanks Bro,

Here she is today week 9, day 1. I'm thinking she's got at least two weeks to go.

These buds are definitely bigger and more solid than my mars hydro buds of the past. However they are not as frosty as some of the flowers Ive grown with the mars. I'm hoping that the addition of the 3k 3590's has an impact on the sugar.
 

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Nice plants!
I think, maybe a few efficient blues/450 and reds/660nm would increase the frost.
But the higher yields will give you for sure more total resin, only a bit less concentration on the buds unfortunately!
 
ttystikk

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ReeferDance said:
The goal was to attempt to keep the plants shorter if possible, and I definitely went overkill on all my lamps, haha. :bigjoint:

Still wrestling with some heat issues with 460w in a 3x3. :cry:
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People run 600W HPS lamps and even thouies in 3x3 tents all the time with no heat issues. Pull heat out from the top actively with a fan. Allow cool air in near the bottom. That should solve your problem.

In my own setup, I'm encouraging stretch actively through veg by running most of my veg under HPS. Only the cuts and rootlings get T5. Once they hit bloom, I'm trying to manage excess stretch by using 860W CDM lamps (3500k, 93CRI). It's still early days with this approach but things are looking pretty promising.

I'm posting this in an LED thread because I plan to replace the blooming lamps with LED lighting- and perhaps in veg too.
 
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testiclees

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thanks folks. im using the 360 in a 24x50" space. i think the small case is a shortcoming in my application. At 12 x 18" the case is shy in the length department. Im adding 100w of cxb pontoon to each end.

Good observation on the resin Random. Do you think the 3k cxbs will hit 450 and 660nm sufficiently enough to generate more frost?
 
ReeferDance

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ttystikk said:
People run 600W HPS lamps and even thouies in 3x3 tents all the time with no heat issues. Pull heat out from the top actively with a fan. Allow cool air in near the bottom. That should solve your problem.

In my own setup, I'm encouraging stretch actively through veg by running most of my veg under HPS. Only the cuts and rootlings get T5. Once they hit bloom, I'm trying to manage excess stretch by using 860W CDM lamps (3500k, 93CRI). It's still early days with this approach but things are looking pretty promising.

I'm posting this in an LED thread because I plan to replace the blooming lamps with LED lighting- and perhaps in veg too.
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I think my biggest problem is the 4" inline fan I use to exhaust air out of the tent. Probably should have just gone with the 6". Also one of my heatsinks is a little small for the amount of power I am running on it so it gets a little toasty when the tent is closed.

Other then that, a few cleverly places fans, and a few passive intakes got me down to around 82-84 degrees which I can deal with. ;)

I think with HPS bulbs the added ventilation through the bulbs (cool tubes? forgot what they are called) pulls the heat from the light a little more efficiently than large heatsinks radiating heat. Although it all moves upward towards the exhaust anyway.
 
JimmyIndica

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testiclees said:
thanks folks. im using the 360 in a 24x50" space. i think the small case is a shortcoming in my application. At 12 x 18" the case is shy in the length department. Im adding 100w of cxb pontoon to each end.

Good observation on the resin Random. Do you think the 3k cxbs will hit 450 and 660nm sufficiently enough to generate more frost?
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I agree. cases not big enough and cob spacing is outwhack
 
JimmyIndica

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testiclees said:
thanks folks. im using the 360 in a 24x50" space. i think the small case is a shortcoming in my application. At 12 x 18" the case is shy in the length department. Im adding 100w of cxb pontoon to each end.

Good observation on the resin Random. Do you think the 3k cxbs will hit 450 and 660nm sufficiently enough to generate more frost?
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yes
 
testiclees

testiclees

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Positivity said:
Only time will tell that..

I have seen no long term testing with glass optics among other possible design issues so it can only be assumed how well it will hold up
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it doesnt seem extra hot around the lenses. ive got plants of different height under it. im running it w 2 lenses on and two off. Next round, after i add the cxbs to the ends, im going to train the plants better and run the cobs without lenses at all....thats my plan.
 
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