Andre K_
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When I got this clone it was already flowering and hardly had roots. Very frustrating , but trying to squeeze what I can from it. Did get myself some blue cheese and auto ryder seeds earlier in the week in case this plant fucks out.
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When I got this clone it was already flowering and hardly had roots. Very frustrating , but trying to squeeze what I can from it. Did get myself some blue cheese and auto ryder seeds earlier in the week in case this plant fucks out.
SweetHayz
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My friend grows hydro and he takes only flowering clones from day ~21-23 of flowering.
Its a method obviously unknown to you. As well a clone 21 days into flower would hardly turn hermie because the female hormones are kicking very hard already.
Top and trim is way too early for your plant and yet not necessary.
Silky T
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I'm going to put in my 2 cents worth. If I had a plant that looked like that I would LST it. Just sayin'. I don't know about the nutes, that's somebody else's expertise.
Silky T
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Again, this plant is an excellent candidate for LSTing. Can a female clone actually turn hermie? I thought once a female, always a female. I'm glad I read this.
707humboldt
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Yes it definitely can turn hermie
OG Gardenz
Active Member
anything can turn hermie if you stress it out enough. Week genetics seem to be a easy way for this to happen.
I have taken all my clones just prior to flip, for years with little to no loss of quality generation to generation. Either this method or taking them off of a mother plant that has never been in flower is the only way to go.
no point in re-veg or taking clones from a plant in flower, ever, unless it is a last ditch effort to save a strain...? Takes to long to adjust back to the life cycle it is supposed to be in, faster to take clones properly and much less risk of loosing genetic quality.
I have taken all my clones just prior to flip, for years with little to no loss of quality generation to generation. Either this method or taking them off of a mother plant that has never been in flower is the only way to go.
no point in re-veg or taking clones from a plant in flower, ever, unless it is a last ditch effort to save a strain...? Takes to long to adjust back to the life cycle it is supposed to be in, faster to take clones properly and much less risk of loosing genetic quality.
spliffbuddy
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I had a plant with similar growth to this, it did grow to harvest but it didn't yield well. Never figured out exactly what it was but seem to remember I put it down to having hot spots in the soil which my ph meter picked up and was only thing I could find wrong. May not be this though.
SweetHayz
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Another person that assumes he knows everything.
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First off i'm gonna start by telling you that this plant is not re-vegging neither it has light schedule issues. It is a flowering clone. Once the clone is cut at the 21st day of flowering ( end of stretching and best time to stress your flowering plant ). It immediately switches to recovery which prevents it from continuing to flower. Once the plant recovers, which will obviously be slower than a normal cloning due part of the energy spent for budding ( in which case removing the buds will help it recover quicker ), the plant will be in a complete vegetative stage and there will be no gander to be shown. Once it reaches flowering will be obviously female since you took the clone out of female plant!
http://www.theweedblog.com/monster-cropping-marijuana-plants/
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707humboldt
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Female plants can hermie, Ive seen it with my own eyes. I grew cherry pie for a while, never hermied on me. I gave it to a friend, his conditions were less than optimal and it hermied. Classic case of female plants turning herm. Funny in the hundreds of lights of growers I know, none of them take clones from flowering plants.
This still seems like a complete waste of time to me. By the time these clones recover, I will be half way through flower on my regular clones. Getting twice as many harvests a year.
Another person who thinks he knows what he's talking about.
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707humboldt
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I have never found a reason in over 15 years to cut flowering clones or re veg a flowering plant. There are a lot of growers where I am, like a fuck ton thats all people do up here, and I've never seen any one else do it either.
OG Gardenz
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I am with 707 on this one, been in the game 15years, live in the middle of the emerald triangle, none of my crew or anyone I know has ever used this ludicrous technique your speaking of.
SweetHayz
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Duh even male plants can hermie, obviously not due flowering cloning is it?
They obviously they don't grow this kind of plants.
Meanwhile if you continuously top your regular clone, you will stress the plant much more and the growth would be much slower.
Therefore your regular clones are good for plants with single cola and low training where you can harvest 1 to 3 oz in some cases with little training up to 8 oz per plant.
P.S. In my country laws are pretty soft towards number of plants you growing. Therefore growing x2 monster plans penalties are much lighter than growing x3 noob 3oz plants.
3 or more plants is consider as supplying. Offender with age over 25yo up to 8 years of imprisonment and fine up to 1500$ .
Meanwhile 2 plants is consider as self consumption and you'll only get your corps confiscated ( probably beaten you aswell ) and you'll pay a fine in first offence since we don't have law regulating the size of the plants yet.
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707humboldt
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Duh even male plants can hermie, obviously not due flowering cloning is it?
They obviously they don't grow this kind of plants.
Monster cropping is to be used in long grows where you would veg a plant for about 2 months to create a monster plant that can yield few pounds.
Meanwhile if you continuously top your regular clone, you will stress the plant much more and the growth would be much slower.
Therefore your regular clones are good for plants with single cola and low training where you can harvest 1 to 3 oz in some cases with little training up to 8 oz per plant.
P.S. In my country laws are pretty soft towards number of plants you growing. Therefore growing x2 monster plans penalties are much lighter than growing x3 noob 3oz plants.
I get 8-8.5 oz per plant, 4-5 plants per light with a 4 week veg. Averaging 2-2.25# per light. There is no way doing that, vegging for a month longer is going to out yield a regular set up with half the veg time over the corse of a years harvest. You can't tell me doing that is going to get me 3+ pounds per light because it would be bullshit. Vegging regular clones is going to get you an extra harvest a year not having to veg for 2 months. So how is it worth it? Maybe if your growing 1 plant
SweetHayz
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Is that heaven? ^_^. Can you upload pic before u switch 12/12?
I grow with regular clones with a lot of training and my plants are only half as big to my friend.
We are keeping it safe law wise. Few soldiers growing 2 plants per person. We have the mothers at a separate location and when harvest is ready one person to supply all others.
We have everything backed up pretty well. Nobody can go prison only a little fine and everything goes back to normal.
Therefore we are yet solid, we can't be destroyed and we are above the law.
I grow with regular clones with a lot of training and my plants are only half as big to my friend.
We are keeping it safe law wise. Few soldiers growing 2 plants per person. We have the mothers at a separate location and when harvest is ready one person to supply all others.
We have everything backed up pretty well. Nobody can go prison only a little fine and everything goes back to normal.
Therefore we are yet solid, we can't be destroyed and we are above the law.
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OG Gardenz
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Again I'm right on coarse with 707...
I do 4 plants per 1000w or 5' x 5' area.
Typical yield of OG is 1 3/4 - 2 lb's per light!
I say, if your not willing to listen to some of us who have been doing this for a long time... it might be a tuff road for you...? not just in this industry but in anything you attempt to accomplish in life!
Either way, good luck, sounds like you will need it!
I do 4 plants per 1000w or 5' x 5' area.
Typical yield of OG is 1 3/4 - 2 lb's per light!
I say, if your not willing to listen to some of us who have been doing this for a long time... it might be a tuff road for you...? not just in this industry but in anything you attempt to accomplish in life!
Either way, good luck, sounds like you will need it!