Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?


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spandy

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Seems a little cold-hearted, but I'll blame Pada's logic for that.


Its the entitlement part that sets me off. People who are not only worthless to society, they are money suck, but yet they want moar!!! MOAR!!!! MOAR!!!!!!!! Fuck them, those types literally can be found in a drain ditch for all I care.
 

Red1966

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Your chart doesn't address the statement you are replying to.
SS is correctly SSI, Supplimental Security Income. Look on your W-2
 

schuylaar

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Trying soften his shit up, but its like smashing bricks.

Its the entitlement part that sets me off. People who are not only worthless to society, they are money suck, but yet they want moar!!! MOAR!!!! MOAR!!!!!!!! Fuck them, those types literally can be found in a drain ditch for all I care.
not everyone gets the same chance in life.

how would life be for people if everyone got a set dollar amount and college and paternity leave and..?

this is to 'spring-board' your life..the rest is up to you.
 

Darth Vapour

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Here simple go look in your closet at the tags of your shirts , jeans etc look where its made enough said
Even the Android phone, your pc look where its made ,,
Probably only thing you will find in your house that is made in USA is probably them pills your popping , and cleaning chemicals under your sink ( Poisons ) Everyone wants more money when in fact there is know money to give United states = Achilles heel its just matter of time before the big crash comes .. And like the saying goes Shit rolls down hill
 

spandy

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not everyone gets the same chance in life.

how would life be for people if everyone got a set dollar amount and college and paternity leave and..?

this is to 'spring-board' your life..the rest is up to you.

Opportunities and chances are much more frequent when created, rather than waiting for someone else to open the fucking door for you.
 

schuylaar

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Opportunities and chances are much more frequent when created, rather than waiting for someone else to open the fucking door for you.
i totally agree.

but when you are handed wealth by being born into?

no one should have to grow up eating ketchup and mustard sandwiches in the us.
 

Darth Vapour

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Opportunities and chances are much more frequent when created, rather than waiting for someone else to open the fucking door for you.
that is just it , its the American dream everyone wants it handed to them its like in most Americans eyes they owe it to us ,, but i keep asking my self owe you what
 

Padawanbater2

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Here simple go look in your closet at the tags of your shirts , jeans etc look where its made enough said
Even the Android phone, your pc look where its made ,,
Probably only thing you will find in your house that is made in USA is probably them pills your popping , and cleaning chemicals under your sink ( Poisons ) Everyone wants more money when in fact there is know money to give United states = Achilles heel its just matter of time before the big crash comes .. And like the saying goes Shit rolls down hill
Yeah this is complete bullshit and has already been addressed multiple times in the thread

Average CEO income in 1965 was ~25 x's the average workers, now, in 2015, that number has skyrocketed past 325 x's (for the top 350 corporations) average worker's income while wages have increased 6% in real dollars over the same amount of time

So the top 1% gets 93% of the economic gains while the bottom 99% gets 7%

Pretty easy to tell where that money came from and who it went to
 

Red1966

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Yeah this is complete bullshit and has already been addressed multiple times in the thread

Average CEO income in 1965 was ~25 x's the average workers, now, in 2015, that number has skyrocketed past 325 x's (for the top 350 corporations) average worker's income while wages have increased 6% in real dollars over the same amount of time

So the top 1% gets 93% of the economic gains while the bottom 99% gets 7%

Pretty easy to tell where that money came from and who it went to
Pretty easy to (wrongly) assume where that money came from. In my trade, it came from better machinery, that my employer paid for.
 

Darth Vapour

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We have gotten so used to horrific trade deficits that it isn't even news anymore.

But these trade deficits are absolutely killing our economy.

How long do you think that the U.S. economy can keep shelling out 40 or 50 billion more dollars than we take in every single month?

If you look at the countries around the world that have become very wealthy, almost all of them have gotten that way by trading with the United States.

Meanwhile, many of our once great manufacturing cities are turning into open sewers.

Every single politician in the United States should be talking about the trade deficit.

But hardly any of them are.

Is it because Americans have all become so dumbed-down that we don't understand these things anymore, or is it because we are so distracted by the various forms of entertainment that we are addicted to that we just don't care?

But the trade deficit is not the only economic statistic that is getting worse.
 

Darth Vapour

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Yeah this is complete bullshit and has already been addressed multiple times in the thread

Average CEO income in 1965 was ~25 x's the average workers, now, in 2015, that number has skyrocketed past 325 x's (for the top 350 corporations) average worker's income while wages have increased 6% in real dollars over the same amount of time

So the top 1% gets 93% of the economic gains while the bottom 99% gets 7%

Pretty easy to tell where that money came from and who it went to
Has a antiquated ring; enlightened modern opinion rejects the notion that relations between the great powers are just a zero-sum game. But this is a group of people who are steeped in traditional modes of strategic thought: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley and Condoleezza Rice would all have worked quite comfortably for Cardinal Richelieu or Count Bismarck. (Whether they would have been hired is, of course, another question.)

They are, in addition, patriotic Americans who are firmly convinced that U.S. power is an instrument for good in the world. And they all know that the days of the United States as the world's sole superpower are numbered.

They must know it. They cannot be unaware of the statistics the rest of us know: a Chinese economy that has been growing over twice as fast as the U.S. economy for almost two decades now, and an Indian economy that has been growing at around twice the U.S. rate for almost a decade already.

And they surely understand the magic of compound interest.

China's economy will overtake that of the United States in one long generation if current trends continue. (Goldman Sachs predicted in 2003 that Chinese GDP would surpass that of the U.S. in 2042.) India, starting later and growing slightly slower, will not reach the same milestone for a further decade or more, but both Asian giants will be nipping at America's heels long before that. And economic power is the source of most other kinds of power.
 

see4

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We have gotten so used to horrific trade deficits that it isn't even news anymore.

But these trade deficits are absolutely killing our economy.

How long do you think that the U.S. economy can keep shelling out 40 or 50 billion more dollars than we take in every single month?
I want to preface the following image with the point that I agree our deficit is bad and something needs to be done. But in all fairness, it is improving, ever so slightly.

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Well at least it was until the Republican gained control of both House and Senate right around the time you see the last line taking a dramatic drop.
 

Padawanbater2

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Pretty easy to (wrongly) assume where that money came from. In my trade, it came from better machinery, that my employer paid for.
Subtract employees from that equation, could the new and improved machinery produce more all on their own?

Productivity comes from work, not machines (unless you have automated robots, then I'd agree with you, every penny goes to the employer)
 
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