Advanced Nutrients

[pk_boosted2]

Yep, at the stores expense.

No it's not at store expense. Dude I had a store and I've done it a few times on older products. Haven't had an exchange in awhile as most of their products have been the same for awhile. They reimburse u 100% no questions asked I'm tellin u for a fact. Call the 800# and they give u ur money and new nutrients if u tell me ur issue. And it's no hassle

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Ok so Dyna Gro tells u to run their nutrients during beg at 8 ml/gal during veg and up to 16 ml in bloom right?

Well AN has u run their bases at max doses of 8 ml/gal. I NEVER EXCEED 4/5 ml/gallon when im running most of the lineup because PPM. Would be off the charts if u tried to.

So last time i checked AN is much stronger that Dyna Gro ml/gallon so I really dont know how u claim its watered down when the dillytion rate asks u to apply more Dyna Gro than AN lol.

If you were to run AN without additives, the dilution rates between Dyna and AN are actually pretty much the same. You have to take the fact that it's a complete one part into account. If you were to add the additives ml/gal of advanced too, advanced much more diluted. Because u have to use 8ml A and B. (The same thing as 16 ml with a one part) 4ml of which ever additives you used. It actually adds up to you use more Ml with advanced than dyna.

I am not defending one or the other. Just pointing this out.

 

[pk_boosted2]

I really doubt when you call AN for a refund, that they ask you where you bought it and charge the store. That makes no sense

They don't ur exactly right. Unless u don't want them to send to ur house u can tell me to send to the store I've done it before on the original Conni formula. I got money back and 2 gallon of free jungle juice for the troubles. Which I use on my AN runs bcuz I Ike it much better for drain to waste systems. I think Conni is better on hydro setups w reservoirs and the pH perfect technology is awesome.

 

[pk_boosted2]

If you were to run AN without additives, the dilution rates between Dyna and AN are actually pretty much the same. You have to take the fact that it's a complete one part into account. If you were to add the additives ml/gal of advanced too, advanced much more diluted. Because u have to use 8ml A and B. (The same thing as 16 ml with a one part) 4ml of which ever additives you used. It actually adds up to you use more Ml with advanced than dyna.

I am not defending one or the other. Just pointing this out.

when I run jungle juice 2 part in coco drain to waste I never exceed 4/5 ml/gallon of any base and I only use 2 ml/gal of additives except for big bud and overdrive I run up to full strength for 2 weeks each. Other than that I find their products to be very comparable in dilution ratios. If u even try to run full strength on their bases ur asking for trouble they run very strong. U ran AN u know that's true.

 

[pk_boosted2]

Botanicare Pure Blend is 1 part I run that at almost 20-25 ml/gal during peak bloom and veg. With additives. Only line up that is concentrated is The Rock I max out 6-8 ml/gallon and that's a one part and super good price. I be showing results soon.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

when I run jungle juice 2 part in coco drain to waste I never exceed 4/5 ml/gallon of any base and I only use 2 ml/gal of additives except for big bud and overdrive I run up to full strength for 2 weeks each. Other than that I find their products to be very comparable in dilution ratios. If u even try to run full strength on their bases ur asking for trouble they run very strong. U ran AN u know that's true.

I ran 8 ml per gallon of connie an 4ml per gallon of big bud and overdrive. 1.5 ml of Ersa Elixir. That was my whole advanced lineup.

I actually think their feeding schedule says twice that amount. 16ml base and 8ml additives. Which is crazy.

 

[homebrewer]

No YOU ARE WRONG!

An has 100% guarantee u call the 1-800# on the bottle and u tell em directly they product u didnt like and u get ur refund.

I did this myself when the Conni first came out bcuz before they had new formula i was gettin ph problems in my coco grow i called them and they directly sent me my money and on top of it they also gave me 2 gallons of jungle juice 2 part a & b for free to try on my next run.

So youre wrong again. But u dont know cuz u dont deal w them so stop BS bout suttin u know nuttin about.

And yes the hydrostore u go to will take anything back as well and AN directly replaces it with them also. So u dont make any sense lol. Either way u get ur money back

Call them right now and ask them if they'll give you your money back: 1-800-640-9605

They'll tell you to go to the grow store where the purchase was made.

 

[homebrewer]

Ok so Dyna Gro tells u to run their nutrients during beg at 8 ml/gal during veg and up to 16 ml in bloom right?

Well AN has u run their bases at max doses of 8 ml/gal. I NEVER EXCEED 4/5 ml/gallon when im running most of the lineup because PPM. Would be off the charts if u tried to.

So last time i checked AN is much stronger that Dyna Gro ml/gallon so I really dont know how u claim its watered down when the dillytion rate asks u to apply more Dyna Gro than AN lol.

I'm calling BS on your supposed college education. What does 'dillytion' mean? Oh, you mean dilution? In that case, if you're looking to test the concentration level of a product, a ppm/TDS meter is required, not a feeding chart.


And lastly, you're name is PK_Boosted. That right there tells me how much you actually understand about plant nutrition.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Call them right now and ask them if they'll give you your money back: 1-800-640-9605

They'll tell you to go to the grow store where the purchase was made.

I just called. You are right. They tell you to go back to the store. But they say that they refund the store. He said it is handled like any other RMA at any normal company.

 

[homebrewer]

I just called. You are right. They tell you to go back to the store. But they say that they refund the store. He said it is handled like any other RMA at any normal company.

Now call your local grow shop and ask them how the return works on their end. Some shops are more lenient than others in regards to the actual return. But in terms of the shop's refund, they do not get 100% reimbursed.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Botanicare Pure Blend is 1 part I run that at almost 20-25 ml/gal during peak bloom and veg. With additives. Only line up that is concentrated is The Rock I max out 6-8 ml/gallon and that's a one part and super good price. I be showing results soon.

Wait I'm confused, your saying dyna is too diluted at 16ml/gal while you use another one part at 20-25 ml/gal. And still have to add additives.

No offense, I am not seeing your reasoning on that.

 

[Jbonezz420]

damn lots of bitching here,,, cant we all agree to disagree on nutrients?? u like what u like, i like what i liike..as long as we all have nice potent weed.. nobodys weed is better than anbody elses thats strain differences,,,unless ur a noob!!

Thank you

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Now call your local grow shop and ask them how the return works on their end. Some shops are more lenient than others in regards to the actual return. But in terms of the shop's refund, they do not get 100% reimbursed.

The shop I go to doesnt carry it anymore. But I called HTG (biggest piece of shit store I know) but only place by me that carries it. I talked to the owner and he said they get full refund. Takes forever to get it and you have to ride their ass to make it happen. And that is for one of the largest retail stores in US. I can imagine small shops not having a chance of getting their money back.

 

[Aeroknow]

Botanicare Pure Blend is 1 part I run that at almost 20-25 ml/gal during peak bloom and veg. With additives. Only line up that is concentrated is The Rock I max out 6-8 ml/gallon and that's a one part and super good price. I be showing results soon.

Wtf are you talking about?
Floranova @5ml/gal is roughly 1.7EC
Maxi @5ml/gal is roughly 1.7-1.8EC(the grow is a little hotter than the bloom)

I can't speak for the dynagro, but I thought it was fairly concentrated also?

 

[homebrewer]

The shop I go to doesnt carry it anymore. But I called HTG (biggest piece of shit store I know) but only place by me that carries it. I talked to the owner and he said they get full refund. Takes forever to get it and you have to ride their ass to make it happen. And that is for one of the largest retail stores in US. I can imagine small shops not having a chance of getting their money back.

I just called the local store that told me about their refund process a couple years back. Apparently there is a local rep now which has made the refund process easier, but it's still a process according to them. The shop now gets fully refunded as does the customer, but it's not a 'walk in and get your cash back situation'. So kudos are in order for AN improving their refund process I guess?

 

[Aeroknow]

It's fucking hilarious:
Newbies usually suck at growing at first, than they get better with time. Imagine that! During the learning curve though, they mess around with different nutes. Once they start figuring shit out/dialing in their grow the yields go up. they figure the sudden success MUST be from the magical nutrients that they were just using. Lame, but totally normal.

 

[pk_boosted2]

I ran 8 ml per gallon of connie an 4ml per gallon of big bud and overdrive. 1.5 ml of Ersa Elixir. That was my whole advanced lineup.

I actually think their feeding schedule says twice that amount. 16ml base and 8ml additives. Which is crazy.

Yah max dose depending on bases r up to 4 ml\gal which no one can do I've never sen any plant not die PR burnt severely even running 12 ml\gal.

I run drain to waste at 4-5 ml\gal with additives peaking out around 1400 ppm During peak bloom. Mostly run 1000-1200 otherwise.

If u run bases at say 5 ml\gal and big bud @4 ml- voodoo @3-4 - b52 @3-4. Sensizym @2-3 puts u around 1000-1100 give or take using source water of 100 ppm. Obviously if u run r\o its diff as is hard water (never recommended) and any other additiveds like bud candy @3-4 ml adds like 200 ppm and same for piranha, tarantula, ** cal mag if needed add an additional 150-200 ppm per dose @3-4 ml per gallon.

I've never had to add cal mag to AN bases unless I was running the chem than I had add a few ml per gallon on top.

With that said in comparison to claiming AN is watered down its really not and if u compare most bases to theirs u will find them comparable if not on more concentrated levels in comparison to Canna which is 20-25 ml\gallo. Botanicare is 20-25 ml\gallon.

The Rock I'm running right now is super concentrated max dose is 8 ml\gallon full veg\bloom.

As said AN is far from "watered down" and is almost as strong if not stronger than most bases. I've never seen anyone able or needed to feed at max dose ever without burning at 8 ml\gallon.

 

[homebrewer]

Yah max dose depending on bases r up to 4 ml\gal which no one can do I've never sen any plant not die PR burnt severely even running 12 ml\gal.

I run drain to waste at 4-5 ml\gal with additives peaking out around 1400 ppm During peak bloom. Mostly run 1000-1200 otherwise.

If u run bases at say 5 ml\gal and big bud @4 ml- voodoo @3-4 - b52 @3-4. Sensizym @2-3 puts u around 1000-1100 give or take using source water of 100 ppm. Obviously if u run r\o its diff as is hard water (never recommended) and any other additiveds like bud candy @3-4 ml adds like 200 ppm and same for piranha, tarantula, ** cal mag if needed add an additional 150-200 ppm per dose @3-4 ml per gallon.

I've never had to add cal mag to AN bases unless I was running the chem than I had add a few ml per gallon on top.

With that said in comparison to claiming AN is watered down its really not and if u compare most bases to theirs u will find them comparable if not on more concentrated levels in comparison to Canna which is 20-25 ml\gallo. Botanicare is 20-25 ml\gallon.

The Rock I'm running right now is super concentrated max dose is 8 ml\gallon full veg\bloom.

As said AN is far from "watered down" and is almost as strong if not stronger than most bases. I've never seen anyone able or needed to feed at max dose ever without burning at 8 ml\gallon.

Their suggested dose is 4ml/L (http://www.advancednutrients.com/products/ph-perfect-sensi-bloom-ab/) which is roughly 16mls per gallon. That's not helpful info. The only way to measure how concentrated, or in this case watery, they are is to use a ppm/TDS meter. AN's Sensi is maybe the most watery food on the market.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Yah max dose depending on bases r up to 4 ml\gal which no one can do I've never sen any plant not die PR burnt severely even running 12 ml\gal.

I run drain to waste at 4-5 ml\gal with additives peaking out around 1400 ppm During peak bloom. Mostly run 1000-1200 otherwise.

If u run bases at say 5 ml\gal and big bud @4 ml- voodoo @3-4 - b52 @3-4. Sensizym @2-3 puts u around 1000-1100 give or take using source water of 100 ppm. Obviously if u run r\o its diff as is hard water (never recommended) and any other additiveds like bud candy @3-4 ml adds like 200 ppm and same for piranha, tarantula, ** cal mag if needed add an additional 150-200 ppm per dose @3-4 ml per gallon.

I've never had to add cal mag to AN bases unless I was running the chem than I had add a few ml per gallon on top.

With that said in comparison to claiming AN is watered down its really not and if u compare most bases to theirs u will find them comparable if not on more concentrated levels in comparison to Canna which is 20-25 ml\gallo. Botanicare is 20-25 ml\gallon.

The Rock I'm running right now is super concentrated max dose is 8 ml\gallon full veg\bloom.

As said AN is far from "watered down" and is almost as strong if not stronger than most bases. I've never seen anyone able or needed to feed at max dose ever without burning at 8 ml\gallon.

That's because 8 ml per gallon isn't full strength. I have ran it at 10ml per gallon before with great results.
8ml Connie A/B, 4 Ml big bud and 1.5 ml ersa elixir comes out around 850 ppm. Roughly the same when trading out big bud for overdrive. Overdrive causes some crazy low ph swings if u don't watch your Rez.

 

[TheChemist77]

Just a friendly Point Chem.....Organic's is not, nor does it have to be "a lot of work"!
In the long run. It is FAR easier for me to mix a soil (water only start to finish) and simply open the grow and water it (no measuring, no metering, no adjusting) and walk away......I use less water too!
Is it labor intensive to actually make the soil? No,,,,I use a local organic soil charged with 30 days nutrition and amend that for my "water only soil" (I don't like the term "supersoil").....I recharge the used soil after use and reuse it = even more savings.....Yes, it takes 30 days to "cook" (original soil mixing - recharge can be used pretty much right away) but once you've done your first,,,you'll never go back!

doc, does organic have to be in soil or cant i use co-co and just use a organic tea?? that is the only way id be able to go, as dragging soil in and out my house would raise red flags to my already nosy neihbors... ive actually grown with fish tank water before wen i first started growing and even did a side by side test against advanced 3 pt with it and the fish water actually yielded within a few grams,,i was surprised to say the least..anyways if i was to try n make a tea, can u give me a list of things id need and how much of each to fill a 30 gallon res.. i can do flood n drain w/ the tea using felt bags filled with co-co fiber...