Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?


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Uncle Ben

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"There are more unemployed than there are jobs."

Bullshit, simply not true and nothing more than a cop out. There are people who can have a job but don't want to work. Thanks to the liberal policies of Obama and his democrat cronies, like that faggot Barney Frank who came up with a program of housing entitlement by mandating financial institutions finance a house to those who didn't have the means to pay back loans....and the foreclosures followed. What a frickin' debacle that was.

"How much money do you make? You're probably one of these middle class people the very beliefs you support harm, how goddamn stupid do you feel?"

I don't have to work anymore, not "for the man" like I said in a previous statement about my assets. We have 6 figures in the bank, investments, a farm and luxury house. It's called delayed gratification, hard work, concepts you and the other RIU communist pukes wouldn't understand.

I support free enterprise, capitalism. It's the only way to prosperity, the pursuit of happiness which this country was founded up and which folks like Dr. Ben Carson embraced. He came from a very poor family, single parent mother and didn't sit around doing the "woe is me" drill, having a string of pity parties. He worked his ass off and is now a millionaire running for president.
 
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superloud

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they keep raising property taxes and all you get in return is an educated populace and protection from the police force.

you white folks have it tough.
White folks? Look everybody it's the white uncle ruckus again. He's back to say some more racist non racist shit
 

Padawanbater2

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There are people who can have a job but don't want to work.
Yeah, we know you blame poor people for being poor, even though many of them hold 2-3 jobs and have college degrees
Thanks to the liberal policies of Obama and his democrat cronies, like that faggot Barney Frank who came up with a program of housing entitlement by mandating financial institutions finance a house to those who didn't have the means to pay back loans....and the foreclosures followed. What a frickin' debacle that was.
"In 2006, a Fannie Mae representative stated in SEC filings that they "did not participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages in 2004 and 2005."[48] In response to criticism, Frank said, "In 2004, it was Bush who started to push Fannie and Freddie into subprime mortgages, because they were boasting about how they were expanding homeownership for low-income people. And I said at the time, 'Hey—(a) this is going to jeopardize their profitability, but (b) it's going to put people in homes they can't afford, and they're gonna lose them.'"

You're nothing more than a speaker for Fox News, welcome to ignore
 

superloud

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How much should a person make working the cash register at Walmart ? What about the person who just greets you and checks your bags on the way out ?
They should make a living wage. It doesn't matter what job you're doing as long as you are working. You need all those people working at the grocery store. I don't think they should be rich by any means but they should make a livable wage.
 

ttystikk

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Not sure if I'm going to get a reply as I pissed you off in another thread but here goes. It sounds to me that Sam's company had a profit sharing based pension program, is this true or what kind of account are you referring to? Totally agree that the kind of shift in company policies you describe are a tragedy.
He's right about how Sam Walton ran the company vs his kids and the bean counters they left in charge.
 

Uncle Ben

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Yeah, we know you blame poor people for being poor, even though many of them hold 2-3 jobs and have college degrees

"In 2006, a Fannie Mae representative stated in SEC filings that they "did not participate in large amounts of these non-traditional mortgages in 2004 and 2005."[48] In response to criticism, Frank said, "In 2004, it was Bush who started to push Fannie and Freddie into subprime mortgages, because they were boasting about how they were expanding homeownership for low-income people. And I said at the time, 'Hey—(a) this is going to jeopardize their profitability, but (b) it's going to put people in homes they can't afford, and they're gonna lose them.'"

You're nothing more than a speaker for Fox News, welcome to ignore
Lies. Where's the link to that tripe?

It was Bush who called for regulatory authority over Fannie Mae as Frank was pushing for Fannie Mae to fund losers who didn't qualify, had no means to pay back the debt. So we, the taxpayers ended up funding yet another liberal debacle.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/easescredit.asp


Yeah, put my on ignore, you parasitic liberal wimp.

FAIL
 
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Harrekin

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They should make a living wage. It doesn't matter what job you're doing as long as you are working. You need all those people working at the grocery store. I don't think they should be rich by any means but they should make a livable wage.
Livable wage for a single person =/= Livable wage for a family of 15.

Where would they make the distinction, in your opinion?
 

Padawanbater2

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Livable wage for a single person =/= Livable wage for a family of 15.

Where would they make the distinction, in your opinion?
Imo, it would be at the individual. Society takes care of you, not the 15 kids you birthed. I don't want to raise miss "somebody gotta pay for my kids" kids.. Although if said kids are going to be on the streets homeless, I think that's probably going to cause a bigger problem eventually than would simply paying for them to begin with. So it's pretty clear that educating people when they're kids about sex is absolutely PARAMOUNT! Inform kids about the potential costs before they're ever even able to have kids themselves. Early sex education is key, and yet, conservatives are against it.. Abstinence only doesn't work and only increases teen pregnancy.
 

superloud

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Livable wage for a single person =/= Livable wage for a family of 15.

Where would they make the distinction, in your opinion?
Hmm Touche... but 15 kid households are not the norm. and if you had 15 kids you would probably qualify for all kinds of gov assistance wich should be considered in your livable wage. me i make 90$ to much to qualify for anything.. I'm not popr enough to qualify for help but even tho i work 100plus hrs a pay period i stay in debt. and I'm not talkin major debt just a couple hundred. and its sad that i camt get ahead of that debt no matter how hhard i work
 

Rob Roy

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They should make a living wage. It doesn't matter what job you're doing as long as you are working. You need all those people working at the grocery store. I don't think they should be rich by any means but they should make a livable wage.
Government regulations cause housing costs to be high, among other things...the entity you believe is the cure is the root cause.
 

Grandpapy

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Government regulations cause housing costs to be high, among other things...the entity you believe is the cure is the root cause.
Err or lack of...

Here in SF a LOT of property is being paid for in cash by foreign investors.
 

Rob Roy

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Err or lack of...

Here in SF a LOT of property is being paid for in cash by foreign investors.
Nearly everybody in S.F. is a foreigner when you come right down to it, but all of them are people.

I'm not big on forced segregation of "foreigners", let the people involved decide is my opinion.
 

ExBuyer

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IMHO the problem isn't the ammount of money spent its the ammount of money we spend outside of our own communities that never makes a difference in our own individual lives however I do believe anyone who works full time should be provided with a wage that compensates their tasks and time spent
 

londonfog

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They should make a living wage. It doesn't matter what job you're doing as long as you are working. You need all those people working at the grocery store. I don't think they should be rich by any means but they should make a livable wage.
One should always make a living wage for self, but when we speak of self plus 4-6 children well....I would suggest you better yourself from an unskilled worker to a skilled worker.
 

superloud

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One should always make a living wage for self, but when we speak of self plus 4-6 children well....I would suggest you better yourself from an unskilled worker to a skilled worker.
I believe a parent should be able to provide for at least two children working full time So if you have 4 children then both parents will need to work.If you have six children then you might need to get a second job and Ty that thang up
 

superloud

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I believe a parent should be able to provide for at least two children working full time So if you have 4 children then both parents will need to work.If you have six children then you might need to get a second job and Ty that thang up
This issue is like many other issues there is no black and white there will always be grey areas. There will always be small groups of people that take advantage. But we have to put up with a small groups of people for the Vast majority to live right.
 

ExBuyer

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One should always make a living wage for self, but when we speak of self plus 4-6 children well....I would suggest you better yourself from an unskilled worker to a skilled worker.
Couldn't agree more the pay rate should match your commitment to the job if you have more kids you shouldn't make a greater income naturally but if you have more kids and because of that go threw more training to better yourself to be able to care for them there should be more hours offered to you then someone with less kids to help compensate

to me this would be fair/just
 
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