I Need More Light

rob333

rob333

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nomofatum said:
I guess that depends on your goal, HPS is great for weight, but not great at all for quality, not alone at least. If he is getting good weight and wants to up quality, he is looking down the right path.
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quality are u serious ?? hps rock on quality each and every time like i said use need to rethink the way use grow be4 adding more light
 
nomofatum

nomofatum

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rob333 said:
quality are u serious ?? hps rock on quality each and every time like i said use need to rethink the way use grow be4 adding more light
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Yes, I'm serious. HPS is missing a large portion of the light spectrum and as a result grows nice large single dimensional tasting and ok but not great potency buds. HPS is a great choice for a main light, but if it's your only light, it's a mistake, even if you get a fancy bulb that gives a bit better spectrum. Mixing in a bit of 6500k LEDs/MH or Florescent and UVB bulbs and you would be amazed the difference in quality. If you supply 70% HPS, 20% 6500k/MH, and 10% UVB you will be impressed by your results.

That said, 6x 600w HPS = 552,000 lumens
The most you want per sqft in a system without CO2 is about 8000 lumens per square foot.
At 9x5 = 45 sqft that would be 12,226 lumens per square foot, well into CO2 required for benefit territory.

Best setup for his space would actually be, IMHO, 2 1000w HPS lights + 400w of CXB3070 6500k LEDs, + 200w of Tanning or Reptile UVB 10/9.9 bulbs.
 
rob333

rob333

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nomofatum said:
Yes, I'm serious. HPS is missing a large portion of the light spectrum and as a result grows nice large single dimensional tasting and ok but not great potency buds. HPS is a great choice for a main light, but if it's your only light, it's a mistake, even if you get a fancy bulb that gives a bit better spectrum. Mixing in a bit of 6500k LEDs/MH or Florescent and UVB bulbs and you would be amazed the difference in quality. If you supply 70% HPS, 20% 6500k/MH, and 10% UVB you will be impressed by your results.

That said, 6x 600w HPS = 552,000 lumens
The most you want per sqft in a system without CO2 is about 8000 lumens per square foot.
At 9x5 = 45 sqft that would be 12,226 lumens per square foot, well into CO2 required for benefit territory.

Best setup for his space would actually be, IMHO, 2 1000w HPS lights + 400w of CXB3070 6500k LEDs, + 200w of Tanning or Reptile UVB 10/9.9 bulbs.
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lol u gota come grow with me ill show u dank buds
 
707humboldt

707humboldt

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nomofatum said:
I guess that depends on your goal, HPS is great for weight, but not great at all for quality, not alone at least. If he is getting good weight and wants to up quality, he is looking down the right path.
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Hps gets killer quality, AAA if you know what your doing. The best flowers I've seen came from hps. I guarantee 95% of top shelf stuff (out here in cali anyway) is grown with hps. 1000w DE hps to be more exact, I wouldn't use any other light. Theres a reason all the big guys use 1000w hps. If another light produced a better product, they would be using it.
 
rob333

rob333

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707humboldt said:
Hps gets killer quality, AAA if you know what your doing. The best flowers I've seen came from hps. I guarantee 95% of top shelf stuff (out here in cali anyway) is grown with hps. 1000w DE hps to be more exact, I wouldn't use any other light. Theres a reason all the big guys use 1000w hps. If another light produced a better product, they would be using it.
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just another person that has no idea on useing a hps
 
rob333

rob333

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nomofatum said:
Yes, I'm serious. HPS is missing a large portion of the light spectrum and as a result grows nice large single dimensional tasting and ok but not great potency buds. HPS is a great choice for a main light, but if it's your only light, it's a mistake, even if you get a fancy bulb that gives a bit better spectrum. Mixing in a bit of 6500k LEDs/MH or Florescent and UVB bulbs and you would be amazed the difference in quality. If you supply 70% HPS, 20% 6500k/MH, and 10% UVB you will be impressed by your results.

That said, 6x 600w HPS = 552,000 lumens
The most you want per sqft in a system without CO2 is about 8000 lumens per square foot.
At 9x5 = 45 sqft that would be 12,226 lumens per square foot, well into CO2 required for benefit territory.

Best setup for his space would actually be, IMHO, 2 1000w HPS lights + 400w of CXB3070 6500k LEDs, + 200w of Tanning or Reptile UVB 10/9.9 bulbs.
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you sir are a trippa
 
rob333

rob333

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nomofatum said:
Yes, I'm serious. HPS is missing a large portion of the light spectrum and as a result grows nice large single dimensional tasting and ok but not great potency buds. HPS is a great choice for a main light, but if it's your only light, it's a mistake, even if you get a fancy bulb that gives a bit better spectrum. Mixing in a bit of 6500k LEDs/MH or Florescent and UVB bulbs and you would be amazed the difference in quality. If you supply 70% HPS, 20% 6500k/MH, and 10% UVB you will be impressed by your results.

That said, 6x 600w HPS = 552,000 lumens
The most you want per sqft in a system without CO2 is about 8000 lumens per square foot.
At 9x5 = 45 sqft that would be 12,226 lumens per square foot, well into CO2 required for benefit territory.

Best setup for his space would actually be, IMHO, 2 1000w HPS lights + 400w of CXB3070 6500k LEDs, + 200w of Tanning or Reptile UVB 10/9.9 bulbs.
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and i'm already impressed with what i produce to be honest i dont think it could get any better
 
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twistedwords

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nomofatum said:
Yes, I'm serious. HPS is missing a large portion of the light spectrum and as a result grows nice large single dimensional tasting and ok but not great potency buds. HPS is a great choice for a main light, but if it's your only light, it's a mistake, even if you get a fancy bulb that gives a bit better spectrum. Mixing in a bit of 6500k LEDs/MH or Florescent and UVB bulbs and you would be amazed the difference in quality. If you supply 70% HPS, 20% 6500k/MH, and 10% UVB you will be impressed by your results.

That said, 6x 600w HPS = 552,000 lumens
The most you want per sqft in a system without CO2 is about 8000 lumens per square foot.
At 9x5 = 45 sqft that would be 12,226 lumens per square foot, well into CO2 required for benefit territory.

Best setup for his space would actually be, IMHO, 2 1000w HPS lights + 400w of CXB3070 6500k LEDs, + 200w of Tanning or Reptile UVB 10/9.9 bulbs.
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This guy understands....Yes the most a plant can absorb of lumens is 9000 lumens per sq foot and no more. Any more lumens added is not perceived by the plant and ignored and can actually harm the plant as the plant now has to protect itself and can cause what is know n as light burn. The most you would need for a 9x5 has already been stated by this poster.
 
nomofatum

nomofatum

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rob333 said:
u let me no when u do better with 1 plant think i got about 1 p 9 ounces off 1 plant mind u there was about 6 of them
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We are talking quality not quantity. If you want to compare quality the best you can do is a closeup picture showing trics/formation, really to judge fairly you must be able to see/smell/smoke it, pictures just barely give a hint at quality. That said, I don't see any trics from those pictures, no fuzz/sparkle, looks like decent B+ weed, clearly not A+.

As far as the 9oz from one plant, I've never given a plant enough room indoors to produce that well. I only give them about 1.75 square feet each (16"x16".) I've made it to or very close to 6oz from 1 of them in this space however, they average just under 4oz each in this space. How big a space was the 9oz plant in?
 
rob333

rob333

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nomofatum said:
We are talking quality not quantity. If you want to compare quality the best you can do is a closeup picture showing trics/formation, really to judge fairly you must be able to see/smell/smoke it, pictures just barely give a hint at quality. That said, I don't see any trics from those pictures, no fuzz/sparkle, looks like decent B+ weed, clearly not A+.

As far as the 9oz from one plant, I've never given a plant enough room indoors to produce that well. I only give them about 1.75 square feet each (16"x16".) I've made it to or very close to 6oz from 1 of them in this space however, they average just under 4oz each in this space. How big a space was the 9oz plant in?
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it was 1 pound 9 ounces and it is prob the best that's going around atm
 
Nummingtons

Nummingtons

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Bottom line is that you have way too much light the electric company will thank you for this but your plants will not. Dude hit it earlier past 9000 lumen you are pissing up a rope. I'm with rob HPS can grow fantastic bud I'm sure you can do a bit better with a wider spectrum but the difference in my opinion would be negligible and not worth the money spent.
 
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