Datura Stramonium - dancing to the devils trumpet

Son of a collier

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its lucid , eyeball shrinking terror that persists for more than a week
enough to trip is also very close to being enough to kill you.

those who have tested their luck with this substance have found it to be "very unpleasant" and they will all agree that its like playing russian roulette with a minigun.
search youtube for datura persistant trip
 

bushwickbill

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oh god. I ate a bunch of seeds from this probably 15 years ago. Insanity. I tripped balls for 3 days straight, the first day I was in complete delarium, I could barely communicate the whole world seemed to not make sense. I threw up a lot that first night, also at one point I had taken my clothes off and neatly folded them and placed them in the corner of my friends bathroom. At one point I was trying to tie my shoe and I looked up at my friend and said, I cant seem to roll a joint today. I'm told I was smoking invisible cigarettes too. After 3 days I finally came down, after I looked the stuff up I felt lucky to be alive.
 

Son of a collier

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oh god. I ate a bunch of seeds from this probably 15 years ago. Insanity. I tripped balls for 3 days straight, the first day I was in complete delarium, I could barely communicate the whole world seemed to not make sense. I threw up a lot that first night, also at one point I had taken my clothes off and neatly folded them and placed them in the corner of my friends bathroom. At one point I was trying to tie my shoe and I looked up at my friend and said, I cant seem to roll a joint today. I'm told I was smoking invisible cigarettes too. After 3 days I finally came down, after I looked the stuff up I felt lucky to be alive.
bushwack bill you have my sympathy my friend, Its the most bizarre substance i've ever dabbled with, DMT is like popping a wheelie on a 50cc moped whereas datura is more akin to being dragged naked up the motorway tied to a tractor.
My trip lasted 8 days because unfortunately we didn't know how much or best method for administration.
in the form we took it came as a green dusty powder labeled as "potters asthma remedy" it was offered to myself and 3 others by a biker friend, we were all 14 years old at the time.
We acquired a tin of potters and made our leafy unstrained brew using 3/4 of a 250g tin which it transpires was an almost lethal dose, not removing the solid matter from our brew before drinking it was also a grave mistake as it meant that the effects went on for days.
none of us were affected for around 12/18 hours... we'd just about given up thinking we had been had.
when the halucinations begin there is no accompanying buzz , you simply accept all the bizarre shit going on around you.
the hallucinations are Lucid in the extreme, after a call from my dad i went to the bus stop and met my mum so i could carry the shopping home, all went well untill mum got home 2 hours later swearing in welsh and sweating like a builder.
i swore that i had met her and brought the shopping home, then there was a knock at the door , it was a woman from about 5 doors up the street.
" it was very kind of young george to carry my shopping but can i have it back now please ? "
later on i woke up in my room to find 20 of my friends in my room all smoking hashish , pulling bongs , sniffing lord knows what, i was freakeed out and asked them to leave as my parents were downstairs watching tv, as they left they stole all my stuff leaving just my bed.
i could continue but the ultimate result was 2 of us in hospital for a week , i was admitted to local authority care and spent just about 18 months there.
i'm now 45 and very much aware that i got off lightly, Mathew , Sean , and however have persisting issues since using this poisonous shit.
mathew lost the plot and was moved away by his dad sadly he lost his mum shortly after, along with the fact he spent 4 days in his room with the very real belief that someone was in the house looking to kill him with a gun...he is now very nervous and has episodes which are followed by depression, Sean who was known as sid the punk, has reverted to being sean and still lives with his parents, he is a total hermit and doesn't leave the house.
myself , i have a really quite serious issue with short term memory for example if i go to the local shop (for local people lol) i ALWAYS need to take a list , even a single item would be forgotten.
i miss appointments , phone calls , birthdays and i cannot enjoy reading as i have to re-read every other paragraph.
If you had an interest in taking this crap i hope i have discouraged.

peace out

G
 

bushwickbill

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Dude that sucks, yeah I consider myself lucky. That summer there were a few people I knew who ended up in the hospital for that stuff. I think all of them were found running down the street naked. It's still with me today and something I think about a lot, it was intense. Now I tend to stick to the shrooms, I do them about every 3 months of more and it seems to keep my head level.
 

MrEDuck

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Deleriants really aren't something anyone should be playing with and hopefully this serves as a cautionary tale to some.
 

caverage

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Deleriants really aren't something anyone should be playing with and hopefully this serves as a cautionary tale to some.
Did Mckenna come up with Dileriants ? or is that an actual class
 

canndo

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As one of the old timers here who professes to have tried one of everything and more when I liked it, and as someone who has some of this stuff growing not twenty feet from my house I will say.

This is one of the few times I learned from other peoples experience and never touched the stuff.

I understand that there are entirely different potencies, leav s from flowers. Roots from seeds.
I have a stand that there are some good qualities in every psychoactive. From what I know about this one, it is pretty much devoid of benefit.
 

heckler73

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I grew it once (D. Stramonium), and dabbled with smoking the ground seeds with weed.
It gave me spins, and a headache. That was about it, and that was enough. I'm glad I never explored it further based on the above.

That said, there is a type of Datura that is beautiful smelling (Datura inoxia IIRC). I remember seeing a huge bush of it in Italy once, and just sat beside it for an evening, inhaling the exceptionally sweet aroma while watching a gorgeous sunset (and smoking hash, drinking wine :mrgreen: ). That's about as close as I want to get to scopolamine any more.
 

caverage

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Deliriants is an actual medical term. Coined to distinguish them from other hallucinogenic drugs.
I swear I heard him describe datura that seemed somethign he made up himself in a lecture. Something like Confusiants or something along those lines... Great , now I'm gonna have to dig through a bunch of Psychedelic Salon podcasts
 
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