Cal-mag VS Epsom Salts?

AZgreenthumb

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@ OP the small plant in the back ground of the pics you posted what do the leaves look like on that one ?
Poor auto flower got a bit of bit of nute burn flushed her she's doing fine now but that leaf you saw in the backround will half to be removed I've had a lot of issues with this particuler grow anybody who grows knows that sometimes you get plants that are just more sensitive but I am trying to get more experience growing sativas I'm viewing this grow as a learning experience just a word of advice don't DAB and then try to mix nutes!
 

tekdc911

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a few points where.. yeah if your at 7.2 or 5.5 in soil OBVIOUSLY your plants going to lock and stress.... your not going to run soil and run 6.3 instead of 6.5 with ANY lock out issues.. its not going to happen.. a few point matters when your running at the edge of your ph scale
then your answer is he isnt oxygenating his water ?
thank god for cannabis man invented air pumps otherwise it would be extinct ........ we all know how reliable soil PH pens are ...... sorry i was joking ........ you know its a soil grow but what soil ...... did he add dolomite to it ? you are missing alot of information to assume is lack of oxygen in the water ........ is his soil compacted ? is it even a large plant ? i mean come on man you didnt even ask the basics ..... so i stick to my original answer regardless of what his $150 ph soil pen says .......
 

AZgreenthumb

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thats low enough to not kill beneficial bacteria and high enough to revert the depletion faster. just add the H202 to your plain waterings
Even so I don't want to run the risk of killing any of my beneficials could I just bubble it with airstones for 24 hours?
 

tekdc911

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Poor auto flower got a bit of bit of nute burn flushed her she's doing fine now but that leaf you saw in the backround will half to be removed I've had a lot of issues with this particuler grow anybody who grows knows that sometimes you get plants that are just more sensitive but I am trying to get more experience growing sativas I'm viewing this grow as a learning experience just a word of advice don't DAB and then try to mix nutes!
dude ive dumped flora nova straight on my plants before i was mixing in 1 gal's ..... and mixed up the nutes and the bottle i was mixing in
 

AZgreenthumb

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then your answer is he isnt oxygenating his water ?
thank god for cannabis man invented air pumps otherwise it would be extinct ........ we all know how reliable soil PH pens are ...... sorry i was joking ........ you know its a soil grow but what soil ...... did he add dolomite to it ? you are missing alot of information to assume is lack of oxygen in the water ........ is his soil compacted ? is it even a large plant ? i mean come on man you didnt even ask the basics ..... so i stick to my original answer regardless of what his $150 ph soil pen says .......
I can absolutely assure everyone on here that my issue is not ph related I did not use dolomite in my soil but I also did not use it my last 3 grows and those plants turned out fine the soil takes on the ph of whatever you feed them I have calibrated my Hanna meter over and over again I use the hi 98127 model I don't know how I could possibly be more accurate with my ph
 

phil k

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then your answer is he isnt oxygenating his water ?
thank god for cannabis man invented air pumps otherwise it would be extinct ........ we all know how reliable soil PH pens are ...... sorry i was joking ........ you know its a soil grow but what soil ...... did he add dolomite to it ? you are missing alot of information to assume is lack of oxygen in the water ........ is his soil compacted ? is it even a large plant ? i mean come on man you didnt even ask the basics ..... so i stick to my original answer regardless of what his $150 ph soil pen says .......
look say what you want.. i know what it is... here let me get a pic of one of my plants that had the same damn thing... now please tell me i don't know what I'm talking about the first pic is a sage and sour mother that had oxygen issues the send pic shows the new growth over two weeks with oxygen being supplemented.. PLEASE TELL ME I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT ... id love to see your defense in the case that its not oxygen issues... image1.JPGimage2.JPG image2.JPG
 

phil k

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soil COMPACTS its soil ... THATS WHY YOU SUPPLIMENT OXYGEN why the hell would i ask if his soil is compacted..
 

phil k

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Alright come on people from now on let's keep things civil stay focused on the issue at hand
didn't mean to make it sound bad.. i wasn't trying to be a dick in anyway to anyone I'm super sorry if i came off that way no offense meant at all.. but if you don't know what advice your giving and your doubting someone who is giving knowledgeable advice don't sit and act like I'm the one who doesn't know what they are saying.. I'm the one answering the question and showing the proof.... sorry.. honestly if i came off as a jerk sorry...
 

AZgreenthumb

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didn't mean to make it sound bad.. i wasn't trying to be a dick in anyway to anyone I'm super sorry if i came off that way no offense meant at all.. but if you don't know what advice your giving and your doubting someone who is giving knowledgeable advice don't sit and act like I'm the one who doesn't know what they are saying.. I'm the one answering the question and showing the proof.... sorry.. honestly if i came off as a jerk sorry...
No prob at all Phil was not speaking to anyone in particular just don't like it when people get into arguments eventually what they post has nothing to do with the issue at hand you seem like you know what your talking about thank you for the advice sending positive vibes your way!
 

homebrewer

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Ok man, the molasses and liquid karma have calcium and magnesium in it already. The guano as well.
the first ingredient in liquid karma is dolomite lime.
Molasses...
I have mentioned it in every response so far and somehow it's still ignored.
I don't think I can help any further.
If calcium and magnesium were present in beneficial amounts, they'd be listed on the guaranteed analysis. Since they're not, the dolomite is likely there for reasons related to pH stability which wouldn't be enough to starve off an actual deficiency.

Molasses is 75% carbohydrate and as I said earlier, it's for the microbes.

So yeah the stuff he is feeding his plants have the two things that you think is the problem.
Please point out where I said what his 'problem' was.
 

phil k

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If calcium and magnesium were present in beneficial amounts, they'd be listed on the guaranteed analysis. Since they're not, the dolomite is likely there for reasons related to pH stability which wouldn't be enough to starve off an actual deficiency.

Molasses is 75% carbohydrate and as I said earlier, it's for the microbes.



Please point out where I said what his 'problem' was.
well first off what molasses are you talking about grandmas molasses unsulpherd which a lot of people use has VERY high calcium and magnesium levels. more than enough for plant consumption alone...if i remember right its like 2 and 4%
 

phil k

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If calcium and magnesium were present in beneficial amounts, they'd be listed on the guaranteed analysis. Since they're not, the dolomite is likely there for reasons related to pH stability which wouldn't be enough to starve off an actual deficiency.

Molasses is 75% carbohydrate and as I said earlier, it's for the microbes.



Please point out where I said what his 'problem' was.
and no guaranteed analysis doesn't mean that whats listed is all thats in the product level wise.. guaranteed analysis is what the company GUARANTEES percentage wise the listed contents levels are as stated in the product labeled... look it up
 

phil k

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theres all kind of shit not listed in products guaranteed analysis.. especially when theres only 1-4% ... thats why you see "other ingredients..." it dosnt mean the levels aren't high enough to support your needs..
 
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