12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

[SweetestCheeba]

F'ing awesome man. This grow still trips me out.
Has drainage been giving you any problems (jus curious).

 

[Uzzi]

Hey HDS. Just curious if you have been able to keep track of which seedling is which strain? Cool grow bud!

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

F'ing awesome man. This grow still trips me out.
Has drainage been giving you any problems (jus curious).

Drainage has been pretty simple although it is nothing like how I designed it. In this picture you can see two water spigots I installed.


I had intended on running these tubs hempy style...where 2 inches of water would be allowed to stay on the bottom and the runoff would come thru the spigot. I put a mesh screen on the spigot to prevent coco and perlite from running out but it turned out to be to restrictive and simply did not drain well.

What I ended up doing was punching 3 small holes in each tub for draining and placed shoebox sized plastic tubs under them so there are 6 of these underneath. Only on heavy waterings - more than 13 or 14 gallons do I have to empty the plastic tubs twice...normal waterings I only have to empty them once.

So long answer short, draining is actually pretty simple and has not been much of a hassle.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Hey HDS. Just curious if you have been able to keep track of which seedling is which strain? Cool grow bud!

Chronic Thunder is in the left tub and Skunk #1 is in the right tub.
The only exception is that I did not have enought Chronic Thunder seeds to fill the left tub so there are 7 Skunk #1's in the left tub. They are positioned in the back.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

Drainage has been pretty simple although it is nothing like how I designed it. In this picture you can see two water spigots I installed.
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I had intended on running these tubs hempy style...where 2 inches of water would be allowed to stay on the bottom and the runoff would come thru the spigot. I put a mesh screen on the spigot to prevent coco and perlite from running out but it turned out to be to restrictive and simply did not drain well.

What I ended up doing was punching 3 small holes in each tub for draining and placed shoebox sized plastic tubs under them so there are 6 of these underneath. Only on heavy waterings - more than 13 or 14 gallons do I have to empty the plastic tubs twice...normal waterings I only have to empty them once.

So long answer short, draining is actually pretty simple and has not been much of a hassle.

Sounds like the simple way worked best.
Quick question: are you familiar with seein this trait in later flowering(round single leaves)
My temps are 77 and my RH is around 40-45%

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Sounds like the simple way worked best.
Quick question: are you familiar with seein this trait in later flowering(round single leaves)
My temps are 77 and my RH is around 40-45%

I've seen pictures of this but I have not experienced that myself. It's probably just the strain but maybe someone else will comment. I've had strains that create really funky leaves. This is an example from Chapter 1....it is Barneys Farm Top Dawg. In fact, many of the Barneys Farm strains I tried had really thick funky single leaves. It's not exactly like what you are experiencing but similar. Your temps and RH is perfect so it's certainly nothing to do with that.

 

[akhiymjames]

Sounds like the simple way worked best.
Quick question: are you familiar with seein this trait in later flowering(round single leaves)
My temps are 77 and my RH is around 40-45%

Bro it looks like that lady is trying to reveg from the looks of it. I've taken some clones in flower and have to reveg them it's called monster cropping and that's how the leaves look coming out the buds once they start growing again. Did you have a light problem? Don't know if I've heard of any strains starting to reveg themselves but with cannabis you never know

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Bro it looks like that lady is trying to reveg from the looks of it. I've taken some clones in flower and have to reveg them it's called monster cropping and that's how the leaves look coming out the buds once they start growing again. Did you have a light problem? Don't know if I've heard of any strains starting to reveg themselves but with cannabis you never know

You're right man...it does look like that.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

I've seen pictures of this but I have not experienced that myself. It's probably just the strain but maybe someone else will comment. I've had strains that create really funky leaves. This is an example from Chapter 1....it is Barneys Farm Top Dawg. In fact, many of the Barneys Farm strains I tried had really thick funky single leaves. It's not exactly like what you are experiencing but similar. Your temps and RH is perfect so it's certainly nothing to do with that.

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Yea man looks a lot like those leaves, non serrated but still produce trichs.
You don't think it could be any type of lock out do u?

Bro it looks like that lady is trying to reveg from the looks of it. I've taken some clones in flower and have to reveg them it's called monster cropping and that's how the leaves look coming out the buds once they start growing again. Did you have a light problem? Don't know if I've heard of any strains starting to reveg themselves but with cannabis you never know

I did maybe about 3 weeks ago I had to move her to a new home and she missed about 2 days of light.
If she was to reveg would those non serrated leaves still be producing trichs?
This also jus started about 2 days ago she has been fine since then jus a lil stunted growth.

 

[akhiymjames]

Yea man looks a lot like those leaves, non serrated but still produce trichs.
You don't think it could be any type of lock out do u?


I did maybe about 3 weeks ago I had to move her to a new home and she missed about 2 days of light.
If she was to reveg would those non serrated leaves still be producing trichs?
This also jus started about 2 days ago she has been fine since then jus a lil stunted growth.

Kinda surprising that you had that problem about a few weeks ago and it's just now showing the growth. Yea leaves have trichs on them in veg but not big like when they're in flower. Did you notice any stretching after that or any bud growth cus if she got stunted then she might have now just got back on track. But those leaves will still produce trichs since she was already in flower anyways. Just keep watching her to make sure none keep coming out like this

 

[SweetestCheeba]

Kinda surprising that you had that problem about a few weeks ago and it's just now showing the growth. Yea leaves have trichs on them in veg but not big like when they're in flower. Did you notice any stretching after that or any bud growth cus if she got stunted then she might have now just got back on track. But those leaves will still produce trichs since she was already in flower anyways. Just keep watching her to make sure none keep coming out like this

Since the move I have notice good bud growth and not much stretch at all.
Good trich production. But those leaves jus scared me wen I saw them 2 days ago.
Im takin pics everyday now to monitor that growth.
Im gonna go take some a little later after the lights have been on for a couple hours

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Minor Octagon Update

Both prototypes are working wonderfully. The roots from the seedlings in the circular PVC have not reached the water yet and I'm closely monitoring. Either they will or they won't. If they don't, then these would have to get started out in DWC trays and then transferred.

I am in full blown development of the 2nd octagon. This octagon will be dedicated to the vertical square PVC tubes. I won't be doing any sneak peaks until it's finished. It will be very pimp and very polished.

Some pics from the current prototypes. Looking great for 8 day old seedlings.
The 4 vertical tubes will ultimately be relocated into the new octagon once finished.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

Minor Octagon Update

Both prototypes are working wonderfully. The roots from the seedlings in the circular PVC have not reached the water yet and I'm closely monitoring. Either they will or they won't. If they don't, then these would have to get started out in DWC trays and then transferred.

I am in full blown development of the 2nd octagon. This octagon will be dedicated to the vertical square PVC tubes. I won't be doing any sneak peaks until it's finished. It will be very pimp and very polished.

Some pics from the current prototypes. Looking great for 8 day old seedlings.
The 4 vertical tubes will ultimately be relocated into the new octagon once finished.

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Lookin bad ass diggity. How many lights are you going to have in the middle of each octagon?

But guys my girl has din a bit of stretching with this new growth.
Tons of hairs, pretty descent trich production and bud growth, I can barely see the stems, but this foxtailing its worrying me.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Lookin bad ass diggity. How many lights are you going to have in the middle of each octagon?

But guys my girl has din a bit of stretching with this new growth.
Tons of hairs, pretty descent trich production and bud growth, I can barely see the stems, but this foxtailing its worrying me.

Those are looking awesome. I've sized the new octagon for a single 600 Watt light.

 

[SweetestCheeba]

Those are looking awesome. I've sized the new octagon for a single 600 Watt light.

Thanks diggity, I feel a little bit better pullin her out and takin those side pics to see the bud formation.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Chapter 2 Update
Day 91
Flowering Day 48

Watering every 4 days now instead of 3. They seem to like that extra day to dry out a little bit. Run-off has been consistently 200 PPM higher than what I'm feeding so I've been tapering back my feed to about 0.9 EC and getting run-off of 1.2 EC. A few plants here and there have very minor signs of being fed too much so this feels about right for now. All in all they are showing considerable progress. Today was the first day I "dove in" so to say and started moving things so I could get a look at plants I have not been able to see. Some of them are looking fantastic...about where they should be for day 48 but the vast majority still looks to be around 15 days behind where they should be...the ones on the perimeter and beneath the canopy much more than that.

Thunder Tub: ~55 out of 84 alive
Skunk Tub: ~65 out of 84 alive
More accurate counts on the next update

 

[DirtyNerd]

Chapter 2 Update
Day 91
Flowering Day 48

Watering every 4 days now instead of 3. They seem to like that extra day to dry out a little bit. Run-off has been consistently 200 PPM higher than what I'm feeding so I've been tapering back my feed to about 0.9 EC and getting run-off of 1.2 EC. A few plants here and there have very minor signs of being fed too much so this feels about right for now. All in all they are showing considerable progress. Today was the first day I "dove in" so to say and started moving things so I could get a look at plants I have not been able to see. Some of them are looking fantastic...about where they should be for day 48 but the vast majority still looks to be around 15 days behind where they should be...the ones on the perimeter and beneath the canopy much more than that.
Thunder Tub: ~55 out of 84 alive
Skunk Tub: ~65 out of 84 alive
More accurate counts on the next update

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Very nice bro looking like bamboo forest just need some samurai in there fighting to the death alright I might be stoned right now and watching shogun assassin


What's the recommend flower time of the girls again hard to find with so many pages Aswell ways great job

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Well...seems 57 to 63 days was about right last time. There will probably be some that finish around then but I've kind of expecting like day 70 at the earliest for most of them. We'll see!

Edit: Barneys Chronic Thunder is said to be 57 to 62 days and that is right inline with what happened in chapter 1.
Sensi seeds say 7 to 11 weeks for Skunk #1.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Then there's always the risk of them finishing in 60 days and having 4 foot tall plants that yield 4 grams...Charlie Brown specials. Hope that won't be the case.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Chapter 2 Update
Day 95
Flowering Day 52

Today I watered with 14 gallons instead of 12 and cut my normal feed in half. PPM's going in was 460. Run-off on the Chronic Thunder tub was 820 and run-off on the Skunk #1 tub was 960 so I hope today will be a good flush for them. Might have to repeat this 4 days from now...I'll just monitor and use my best judgement.

There is a lot of variance in development. Based on how they look, I am going to estimate the harvest window to be between day 70 and 85.
Some could be a little earlier...it's really difficult to try and see plants in the middle and back. Harvesting this is going to be challenging.