Best yielding haze?
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Cobnobuler
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I know SSH grows like a sonofabitch. I could hardly contain it to keep it under the lights.
ebcrew
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Aside from the yield how was the quality of the bud? I just got done growing 2 (regular) Northern light autos and they were both gigantic plants but the bud wasnt the best ive grown.
I believe this plant won the cannabis cup a couple of times 20 years ago and the genetics from this strain are in many of todays strains. I grew it once and it needed around 12 weeks to really finish well. If grown right, it's at least a 9/10 in potency. It used to be considered the Holy Grail the first few years......
You asked about yield, and I don't think you'll do better........
You asked about yield, and I don't think you'll do better........
Sativied
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Good post.
SSH (and Mango haze) are descendants of that NL#5/Haze. When Arjan and Shantibaba (now at mr nice seeds) started GHS they went to Sensi and bought a couple of thousand NL#5/Haze seeds.... Its genes are indeed in many many many strains and pollenchucks today, including blue dream.
ebcrew
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Thank u for the response! I bet that cross is much better then original NL too, sounds so good! Im really just trying to narrow down what went wrong with my NL grow.
True, SSH still keeps winning awards, C99 is considered a holy grail, SLH is very tempting too, what do you think is better?
Arjan bought SSH and NL5xHaze from Nevil when he was fleeing to Australia, so did Sensi.
GHS/MrNice have never acquired anything from Sensi.
Have you got experience with any of those strains?
Sensi's NL is the original, yours could of been a knock off, auto's do have low THC content, true NL is +20% and resin coated.
Try growing photoperiod plants next, you will notice a difference.
ebcrew
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I could have sworn the NL auto was from sensi seeds, do they not make an auto? is this a new breed from them or am i mistaken on the breeder?
They do have an Auto NL, it's not as potent as Photo though.
ebcrew
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gotcha!
Looking at mr. nice strain descriptions I've just realized something.
SSH = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze
Super Lemon Haze = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze x Lemon Skunk
Blue Dream = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze x Blueberry
Jack Herer = Northern Lights #5 x Skunk #1 x Shiva Skunk x Haze
C99 = Northern Lights #5 x Shiva Skunk x Haze x Shiva Skunk
So basically Jack Herer/C99/NL5xHaze are more energetic while SSH/SLH/Blue Dream are more mellow/relaxing.
I'm starting to like SSH.
There's a strain called ICE (Indica Crystal Extreme), it's Northern Lights x Super Skunk, all resin covered.
It's like SSH has ICE in it, hence it's high resin production.
I'm going to check out Northern Lights x Skunk #1 next, it should be a good yielder.
SSH = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze
Super Lemon Haze = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze x Lemon Skunk
Blue Dream = Northern Lights (NL5xHK) x Skunk #1 x Haze x Blueberry
Jack Herer = Northern Lights #5 x Skunk #1 x Shiva Skunk x Haze
C99 = Northern Lights #5 x Shiva Skunk x Haze x Shiva Skunk
So basically Jack Herer/C99/NL5xHaze are more energetic while SSH/SLH/Blue Dream are more mellow/relaxing.
I'm starting to like SSH.
There's a strain called ICE (Indica Crystal Extreme), it's Northern Lights x Super Skunk, all resin covered.
It's like SSH has ICE in it, hence it's high resin production.
I'm going to check out Northern Lights x Skunk #1 next, it should be a good yielder.
R3l@X
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Far 2 many variables..did u take any pics during ur grow? If u don't know how to erase the exif/metadata don't bother posting but it may of been environmental variables n so on...you a noob or experience.. Again all depends on your ability n phenotype n so on..n stay away from autos get a few regs do a pheno hunt n clone the best n brightest screw autos...yeah u heard me lol
Sativied
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I smoked NL#5/Haze (or separate) from Sensi when they were still a shop... that's around the time your were still sucking on your mom's titties. I smoked many variations of SSH, and Lemon Haze, and JH and crosses. SSH and amnesia (often the same) are the most popular strains in dutch coffeeshops and I've smoked them daily for years.
So... there's the answer to your ridiculous question.
I have 8 year old ICE seeds... grown those too, crossed them recently too. Your simplistic logic has no truth in it except for that they are all based on the same SENSI lines lol.
You might as well claim the world is flat....
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Sativied
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And then walk 500 meters back to the dam and there's Sensi where you can pick up the originals in seed form.
The whole GHS and Mr Nice story is like most covered bullshit. May be all mysterious from where ever but NL is like a small town. They all claim to have the original stock either from Sam directly or Nevill (who according to a recent comment from Sam the Skunkman never bred anything), which he sold to Ben Dronkers. Specifically he sold 'the seed bank', which Ben turned in to sensi seeds. It's possible they got it while it was still "The seed bank"... well...
GHS claims they started in 1985, and seed co according to others (shanti) 94, but was actually in 1995 (coffeeshop in 92 or something, close).
Ben Dronkers however did start the Sensi Seed Club in 1985 already. In 1988 Neville's The Seed Bank, Ben Dronker's Sensi, SSSC, and Cultivator's Choice (Sam) contested in the first High Times Cannabis Cup. Sam's genetics -> Neville sold his to Ben too, and Sam sold to the founder of Flying Dutchman (which is now from sensi too). There's no mystery where the others who came nearly a decade later got their seeds... they literally walked to sensi seeds to buy their seeds... like everyone else did at the time... sensi originals... (well some got bud and got bag seed, behold the holy grail C99...).
Ben is and was in many ways the best man for the job. The ones that came after all wanted to be the new sensi seeds... The whole strain hunter thing from Arjan is just so he can pretend to be the king of cannabis, an inflated version of his perception of Ben or something. At least shantibaba can breed.
The whole GHS and Mr Nice story is like most covered bullshit. May be all mysterious from where ever but NL is like a small town. They all claim to have the original stock either from Sam directly or Nevill (who according to a recent comment from Sam the Skunkman never bred anything), which he sold to Ben Dronkers. Specifically he sold 'the seed bank', which Ben turned in to sensi seeds. It's possible they got it while it was still "The seed bank"... well...
GHS claims they started in 1985, and seed co according to others (shanti) 94, but was actually in 1995 (coffeeshop in 92 or something, close).
Ben Dronkers however did start the Sensi Seed Club in 1985 already. In 1988 Neville's The Seed Bank, Ben Dronker's Sensi, SSSC, and Cultivator's Choice (Sam) contested in the first High Times Cannabis Cup. Sam's genetics -> Neville sold his to Ben too, and Sam sold to the founder of Flying Dutchman (which is now from sensi too). There's no mystery where the others who came nearly a decade later got their seeds... they literally walked to sensi seeds to buy their seeds... like everyone else did at the time... sensi originals... (well some got bud and got bag seed, behold the holy grail C99...).
Ben is and was in many ways the best man for the job. The ones that came after all wanted to be the new sensi seeds... The whole strain hunter thing from Arjan is just so he can pretend to be the king of cannabis, an inflated version of his perception of Ben or something. At least shantibaba can breed.
I can't remember exactly what site it was but fairly recently Nevil piped in and went into detail about his version of who/where/how/when/why......he even admits some of it is "foggy" and each of the participants have a different version of it all. I grew a wide variety of Nevil's stuff from The Seed Bank (Cannabis Castle) in the late 80's and early 90's and still believe many of those things were still some of the best I've ever grown/smoked.
Sativied
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I said before once in these forums, there's only one thing I know for sure, and that's that they all have their own skewed version of history. Keeps it interesting.
He wants to make a come back...
As much as I dislike GHS (for their approach, methods) I love me some SLH. Nice change form amnesia and ssh. Good lemon haze at Hunter's coffeeshop near RLD. Or buy some lemon skunk / (we called it citral...) and get a male SSH from Mr Nice and make a better version...