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Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?

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Blakhash

Blakhash

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So, I am definitely going to pick up some of the Vero 29's...but how will I know I am getting the news ones, what's the part number???
 
Blakhash

Blakhash

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How many watts of Vero 29s do I need to replace a 1000w hortilux super hps? In a 3x5 tent.

I plant to use them for vegging and flowering.

Right now I am Getting 66 wpsf
But I am trying to heavily reduce my Electric bill. Since the leds will be places across the whole grow what do you guys recommend?
 
coolbreez1

coolbreez1

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I was running 6 Vero 29s 4000K at 2.1 amps in a 4x6 space, they were used for veg and flower. My yield was .75 grams per watt, on my first indoor grow with several errors... such as our cat peeing in one of the plants... Depending on how exactly you do the math it works out to about 25 wpsf. I would think that you could use 4-5 with good results.
 
Blakhash

Blakhash

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Cat piss ouch lol.

Hmmm, not bad, but I was considering around 7 at 100w, (w dimmer for veg) I know.. It's high. But that would mathz out to= x7=700w, ÷15sqf= 46wpsqf, which seems adequate given they will. Be spread out over hydro. I plan to build two which would save me over 700w+ on my Electric bill not Including when I use my mh for vegging.

What cha guys think?
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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Blakhash said:
Cat piss ouch lol.

Hmmm, not bad, but I was considering around 7 at 100w, (w dimmer for veg) I know.. It's high. But that would mathz out to= x7=700w, ÷15sqf= 46wpsqf, which seems adequate given they will. Be spread out over hydro. I plan to build two which would save me over 700w+ on my Electric bill not Including when I use my mh for vegging.

What cha guys think?
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Actually, you could run them softer and possibly get better results in comparison to HPS.

Instead of using ~45W/sq. ft., with Vero-COBS, most of us here who utilize such lights go with around 30W/sq. ft. as a standard. That standard, if my logic is correct, will go down over time as the efficiency of Vero-COBS rises.
 
Blakhash

Blakhash

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AquariusPanta said:
Actually, you could run them softer and possibly get better results in comparison to HPS.

Instead of using ~45W/sq. ft., with Vero-COBS, most of us here who utilize such lights go with around 30W/sq. ft. as a standard. That standard, if my logic is correct, will go down over time as the efficiency of Vero-COBS rises.
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OK, so how low are we talking I thought the Veros were better at running higher. So to match or best an 1000w hortilux super hps bulb in a 15sqf room, what would you recommend my friend?
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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Blakhash said:
OK, so how low are we talking I thought the Veros were better at running higher. So to match or best an 1000w hortilux super hps bulb in a 15sqf room, what would you recommend my friend?
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I've never used any other light besides the Sun and LED to grow plants with, so I'm not comfortable giving you half-filled advice with respect to HPS.

I guess the only issue I see with the standard that I gave you and that others use, is that it doesn't account for the current or efficiency of the given setup. In other words, you could run a COB at an extremely high current and as a result, produce a whole bunch of heat with little light due to low efficiency and yet meet or exceed that standard of 30W/sq f.

Believe it or not, I'm still learning too.

:mrgreen:
 
Blakhash

Blakhash

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AquariusPanta said:
I've never used any other light besides the Sun and LED to grow plants with, so I'm not comfortable giving you half-filled advice with respect to HPS.

I guess the only issue I see with the standard that I gave you and that others use, is that it doesn't account for the current or efficiency of the given setup. In other words, you could run a COB at an extremely high current and as a result, produce a whole bunch of heat with little light due to low efficiency and yet meet or exceed that standard of 30W/sq f.

Believe it or not, I'm still learning too.

:mrgreen:
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Gotcha, supra informed me it would be a lot wiser to run the Vero as 100w rather than the Cree cobs, I am Going to stick with my original design of 8x100w and attach a dimmer to lower my Wattage if necessary.
I'd rather have too Much to start than have to add more later. I would be more than happy to show my results, maybe we can all learn from my mistake or success.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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I was looking at a Vero 18 COB earlier and wondered to myself... 'if the COB is powered on by an Pico EZ-Mate and somebody, with two fingers, touches both the positive and negative solder pad points, will they get shocked?'

Thought I'd share some food for thought.

;)
 
ReeferDance

ReeferDance

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AquariusPanta said:
I was looking at a Vero 18 COB earlier and wondered to myself... 'if the COB is powered on by an Pico EZ-Mate and somebody, with two fingers, touches both the positive and negative solder pad points, will they get shocked?'

Thought I'd share some food for thought.

;)
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Might be a better idea to touch it with a multi-meter of some kind. But I do see where you are coming from haha.
 
Rahz

Rahz

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I get that efficiency is one of the goals, but I wonder if there would be more obvious "HID killers" out there if people were building lamps running at recommended specs. I'm building a fan cooled lamp running V29s @ 1.4A which seems like a happy medium, but if I wasn't such an enthusiast I would be running them at 2.1 for less money up front. I mean, that's what Bridgelux recommends...
 
ReeferDance

ReeferDance

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Rahz said:
I get that efficiency is one of the goals, but I wonder if there would be more obvious "HID killers" out there if people were building lamps running at recommended specs. I'm building a fan cooled lamp running V29s @ 1.4A which seems like a happy medium, but if I wasn't such an enthusiast I would be running them at 2.1 for less money up front. I mean, that's what Bridgelux recommends...
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I think a lot of people are just trying to reach the highest efficiency possible, and that usually comes at the cost of running at a lower amperage. Running at a lower amperage also seems to increase the lumens/w.

I love running my Veros hard though :fire: One reason that I went with Bridgelux over Cree :hump:
 
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