Who here has used 20 1k hps to grow

gunnar&carey

Well-Known Member
Backed into a corner with nothing to show or say that has visible or viable proof to the claims you made about lighting and you try to disregard anothers knowledge on the subject and call him a pussy stating its not his grow, first off he never said it was! Second its called backing up what u say! Third look at @Sativied journal, kats a sick ass grower with more knowledge about growing then you are will to comprehend. Based on what your saying about having grown for along time i think you have over looked and mis read alot of information so before you go off insulting someone get a adequate understand of conversation and learn to debate in a accredited upstanding manner...
 

Positivity

Well-Known Member
Sativied has belittled more people here than almost anyone

I personally could care less how pretty his plants are. I know lots of top notch growers with attitudes to match

With that said, I'm always ready to be civil. Even though I've seen people's ability to change enough, usually nil
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
How come reviews on mass produced herb in a-dam are generally unimpressive but herb from Jamaica, Hawaii, etc are usually along the lines of best shit ever.

Light quality bitch
A will tell you a story ...
Every year thousands of tourists -from a certain country - come for vacations here ...
In this "shithole" where I live ...
When they go to restaurants -"tavernas"- one basic plate that they order, is salad-" horiatiki " .

Many restaurants ,use imported vegetables ,
grown at greenhouses with HID lights ,from that "certain country" .
When those tourists taste the salads or other plates ,made with their country's exported veggies ,cause they are used to that kind of veggies,seem not to have a particular problem .
Soon to change attitude...
If by any chance they will taste any plate (especially salads ) made with domestic veggies is like a whole "revelation" is unfolding inside their mouth . You can see it in their faces ,the moment they taste the first fork-bite .
From that point and on ,they will never "go back"..
Next time ,they will ask kindly the service ,if the vegetables used by the restaurant are imported from their country or if they are domestically grown.
I wonder whatr actually happens when they go back ,after their vacations ,in their country ...
They produce lamps ,which they use to produce the worst -but second largest in world- agricultural export .
Actually ,those are words of their own ,after they taste some REAL vegetables .Not mine.

Let alone mj .
This country produces -massively- the worst quality of mj known to man ...
And yet ,they have annual contests about it ...
LOL ...

Oh ...I should not forget to make my usual LED-religious comment ...

Even the lowest to average quality of LEDs ,still produce higher quality of MJ ,
than any HPS will ever produce ...

" So, how are his plants doing? According to a lab analysis of a couple of his plants,
the THC levels are some of the highest that the lab had ever seen. "

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-04/my-friends-basement-pot-farm

"..science-based LED lighting applies horticultural research to optimize the yield, potency and flavor characteristics of diverse plants, from high-margin crops like marijuana to everyday salad lettuce."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/intelligent-light-source-tapped-in-early-round-to-share-breakthrough-led-tech-with-top-marijuana-investors-300025346.html

" While an HID o HPS may surpass 1,000w, an LED used for these crops does not exceed 440w.It not only manages to mitigate the way in which the environment might be harmed, but it is also discreet and, at the same time, it would result in significant monetary savings.
According to the experts, the quality and quantity of marijuana crops increase when this type of light bulb is employed. Why? Because heat usually degrades THC."
https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/saving-energy-electricity/




Still some they can laugh their asses off.

Usually the last one laughing ,has the best of times ...
Do not feed the troll-cats .Their eyes change color .

With regards ,
Your beloved "moron" ..
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Cheers.
:peace:

@REALSTYLES :
What's wrong with you ,man ?
Who cares about 20K of HPS grows ?
Not everybody evaluates things by quantity ,dude.
LEDS are about "high quality " .
No offence,but ...
You're lowering the "standards" .My humble opinion.
And you're attracting weird animals,too ...
It's a jungle outta there ..
 
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AquariusPanta

Well-Known Member
A will tell you a story ...
Every year thousands of tourists -from a certain country - come for vacations here ...
In this "shithole" where I live ...
When they go to restaurants -"tavernas"- one basic plate that they order, is salad-" horiatiki " .

Many restaurants ,use imported vegetables ,
grown at greenhouses with HID lights ,from that "certain country" .
When those tourists taste the salads or other plates ,made with their country's exported veggies ,cause they are used to that kind of veggies,seem not to have a particular problem .
Soon to change attitude...
If by any chance they will taste any plate (especially salads ) made with domestic veggies is like a whole "revelation" is unfolding inside their mouth . You can see it in their faces ,the moment they taste the first fork-bite .
From that point and on ,they will never "go back"..
Next time ,they will ask kindly the service ,if the vegetables used by the restaurant are imported from their country or if they are domestically grown.
I wonder whatr actually happens when they go back ,after their vacations ,in their country ...
They produce lamps ,which they use to produce the worst -but second largest in world- agricultural export .
Actually ,those are words of their own ,after they taste some REAL vegetables .Not mine.

Let alone mj .
This country produces -massively- the worst quality of mj known to man ...
And yet ,they have annual contests about it ...
LOL ...

Oh ...I should not forget to make my usual LED-religious comment ...

Even the lowest to average quality of LEDs ,still produce higher quality of MJ ,
than any HPS will ever produce ...

" So, how are his plants doing? According to a lab analysis of a couple of his plants,
the THC levels are some of the highest that the lab had ever seen. "

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-04/my-friends-basement-pot-farm

"..science-based LED lighting applies horticultural research to optimize the yield, potency and flavor characteristics of diverse plants, from high-margin crops like marijuana to everyday salad lettuce."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/intelligent-light-source-tapped-in-early-round-to-share-breakthrough-led-tech-with-top-marijuana-investors-300025346.html

" While an HID o HPS may surpass 1,000w, an LED used for these crops does not exceed 440w.It not only manages to mitigate the way in which the environment might be harmed, but it is also discreet and, at the same time, it would result in significant monetary savings.
According to the experts, the quality and quantity of marijuana crops increase when this type of light bulb is employed. Why? Because heat usually degrades THC."
https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/saving-energy-electricity/




Still some they can laugh their asses off.

Usually the last one laughing ,has the best of times ...
Do not feed the troll-cats .Their eyes change color .

With regards ,
Your beloved "moron" ..
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Cheers.
:peace:

@REALSTYLES :
What's wrong with you ,man ?
Who cares about 20K of HPS grows ?
Not everybody evaluates things by quantity ,dude.
LEDS are about "high quality " .
No offence,but ...
You're lowering the "standards" .My humble opinion.
And you're attracting weird animals,too ...
It's a jungle outta there ..
Do you see the grey wieners emerging from the COB in your avatar picture?...

:lol:........

:wink:

:bigjoint:
 

jpizzle4shizzle

Well-Known Member
Good weed can also be grown with those cheap Chinese leds, although mine is probably a better veg light, I still get dense buds from it. Very impressed with cob lighting so far, if you grow in a cabinet and aren't using DIY led make the switch. Even the cheap Chinese cobs work very well.

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Sativied

Well-Known Member
Sativied has belittled more people here than almost anyone
I also heard Sativied is the one who actually assassinated JFK, caused the drought in Africa, and personally nailed Jesus to the cross.

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Belittling a bunch of trolling rude punks who aren't here to help others grow their own mj but grow epeen... I'll take that petty attempt to demonize me as a compliment. Thanks.

And doh... no those aren't my grows. That 3.0 gpw would be only 2gpw in my case, according to Bibled numbers that is. I flower under an old 600w HPS bulb in an older reflector with an even older mag ballast. Veg and transition under a 400w mh that has less output than the 315w cmh, running on an 8 year old ballast.

hps.jpg

Aren't they beautiful... :lol:

The analogies you guys make up comparing your toys to professional horticulture lighting are just far off... to put it in a better perspective:

HPS:
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LED:
 

Positivity

Well-Known Member
Awww sativied. Don't be mad because everyone using leds are growing better herb than you now

And they are so easy to put together! You don't need to be an engineer!

In fact, i recommend everyone build themself a led grow light. Its a wonderful and enlightening experience that all growers should enjoy
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
LED vs HPS.jpg

Who's the moron,now ?

:finger:

Of course,you can change your eyes to red ,kitty ...
But ...
Do something useful ,firstly to yourself and then to the rest of us...

1) Get a life .Even on "sales" .
2) Go and use that HPS of yours ,instead of bitching LED growers..
3) Eat your Whiskas . ( On the rocks. Cheers.)
 
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REALSTYLES

Well-Known Member
I also heard Sativied is the one who actually assassinated JFK, caused the drought in Africa, and personally nailed Jesus to the cross.

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Belittling a bunch of trolling rude punks who aren't here to help others grow their own mj but grow epeen... I'll take that petty attempt to demonize me as a compliment. Thanks.

And doh... no those aren't my grows. That 3.0 gpw would be only 2gpw in my case, according to Bibled numbers that is. I flower under an old 600w HPS bulb in an older reflector with an even older mag ballast. Veg and transition under a 400w mh that has less output than the 315w cmh, running on an 8 year old ballast.

View attachment 3395296

Aren't they beautiful... :lol:

The analogies you guys make up comparing your toys to professional horticulture lighting are just far off... to put it in a better perspective:

HPS:
View attachment 3395301


LED:
And also takes it up the ass you sir are a BIG PUSSY
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
He constantly shows us what professional grow operations look like, implying we think most professional grow ops use LED and that we're arguing that. This is a straw-man fallacy as well as a red herring fallacy. What is used in a professional grow operation is irrelevant to what DIYers are using in their grow tents.

It doesn't make sense to expect an instant shift to accept new technology. These things take time. Warehouse grows won't instantly upgrade from HPS to top bin cxb overnight. It makes absolutely no sense to expect that. I built my unit a week after cxb was released, and right off the bat he started showing me how nobody grows with it. (well duh) Even if "what's professional" was the central argument going on, it's still a flawed argument. He has to give at least a few months if not years to see larger operations testing the new products before they can decide to convert their whole operation over.. (and testing doesn't mean the god damn onyx... not a bad light for small grow areas, but it's nothing close to DIY builds with vero, cxa/cxb)
 
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gk skunky

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Hey Sativied just curious for sake of the debate. So you run a 600w. In what size area, with how many plants, what method and how big are your colas? Want to compare pics. I'm in a 4x4 with about 650w LED with 14-20 plants rotating through in coco using fabric pots and canna coco nutes. Harvest every 2-4 weeks. Average a little over a pound per month. Have produced colas from the size of golf balls to 24oz cans, litre bottles, and about the girth of a 20lb dumbbell. I've got the pics too. Just will have to wait to get on the computer later unless you wanted to browse my posts. Kinda doubt it. LOL I'll post then later. At work on my phone now.
 

REALSTYLES

Well-Known Member
Hey Sativied just curious for sake of the debate. So you run a 600w. In what size area, with how many plants, what method and how big are your colas? Want to compare pics. I'm in a 4x4 with about 650w LED with 14-20 plants rotating through in coco using fabric pots and canna coco nutes. Harvest every 2-4 weeks. Average a little over a pound per month. Have produced colas from the size of golf balls to 24oz cans, litre bottles, and about the girth of a 20lb dumbbell. I've got the pics too. Just will have to wait to get on the computer later unless you wanted to browse my posts. Kinda doubt it. LOL I'll post then later. At work on my phone now.
Just peeped the thread and day um son!!! What you got going on is proof LED's kick the shit out of hps.
 

orangeade5

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Hey Sativied just curious for sake of the debate. So you run a 600w. In what size area, with how many plants, what method and how big are your colas? Want to compare pics. I'm in a 4x4 with about 650w LED with 14-20 plants rotating through in coco using fabric pots and canna coco nutes. Harvest every 2-4 weeks. Average a little over a pound per month. Have produced colas from the size of golf balls to 24oz cans, litre bottles, and about the girth of a 20lb dumbbell. I've got the pics too. Just will have to wait to get on the computer later unless you wanted to browse my posts. Kinda doubt it. LOL I'll post then later. At work on my phone now.
Is this with cob lighting or a pretty purple panel? I wanna see this tent!
 
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