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Nate Dogg

Nate Dogg

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Clueless lol so damn clueless i pulled 500+ bows of 2 gardens and i run 4 properties your right what do i know
 
Nate Dogg

Nate Dogg

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Try what experiment! ive already given yall my own personal experiment just to be tried like i never did it or if im just someone that doesnt know what hes doing might not be a botanist but I know hownto grow fire weed sl if your smart why dont you enlighten me on how flushings bad
 
204Kush Master

204Kush Master

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Yup no flush you chance possible headache weed might look good but usually doesn't burn right or some bull shit when I flush no complaints about headaches or how it burns
I been growing 12 x 1000w x 8 plants/light 96 plants a grow 22 to 26 pounds every 8 weeks and tried it all believe it or don't your plants are your party and as much as you think you learned and know everything keep going youll figure it out on your own or easier yet take some advise and do it right from now on.
 
Nate Dogg

Nate Dogg

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Black ash has nothing to do with flushing that has to do with curing but smoothness/harshness totally has to do witn flushing ive experimented it myself one flushed on non the flushed tasted way better yielded a little lower one i didnt flush yielded a li, better but was harsh on the back of my throat samne nutes same soil same area
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Nate Dogg said:
Try what experiment! ive already given yall my own personal experiment just to be tried like i never did it or if im just someone that doesnt know what hes doing might not be a botanist but I know hownto grow fire weed sl if your smart why dont you enlighten me on how flushings bad
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flushing with mass amounts of water is bad, using just water the last week or so isn't bad, BUT, it is NOT bad synthetic nutrients causing bad taste or burn.
if you tried the experiment, you would see that the salts don't really burn at all, BUT sugar, it turns black and gooey, which would make your "ish" burn and taste bad. going back to the pic I posted on photosynthesis, you will see how thru photosynthesis, the leaves turn nutrient ions into glucose and starch, which is sent to the rest of the plant(buds)
 
Nate Dogg

Nate Dogg

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Thanks now i learned something new see how easy that was not to be a dousche when you get attacked being told that the experiment you did holds zero water tends to piss people off especially when theyre just trying to help someone ouy
 
Nate Dogg

Nate Dogg

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ill try another experiment not flush one and feed all the way through then with the other one ill try just gibing regular waterings for the last week
 
204Kush Master

204Kush Master

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you might be right about black ash but I think its the food from not flushing as youll notice even after only 3-4 days in the nets a 24 hour sweat 1 more day in the net weed that's flushed smokes no black ash and smooth non flushed black ash harsh and chem taste in throat I have tested that and its true also true that further curing may fix black ash issue
but may still have headache weed .
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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204Kush Master said:
you might be right about black ash but I think its the food from not flushing as youll notice even after only 3-4 days in the nets a 24 hour sweat 1 more day in the net weed that's flushed smokes no black ash and smooth non flushed black ash harsh and chem taste in throat I have tested that and its true also true that further curing may fix black ash issue
but may still have headache weed .
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I don't flush, But I also don't overfeed, i use small amounts everytime i water, I can smoke my weed with no harshness or burn as soon as it dries after the sweat.
 
204Kush Master

204Kush Master

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PK is very food sensitive feed , feed , water some times feed ,water ,water and a good rule to follow is 15,10,5 in veg 5,10 ,15 in bloom 3 part food slight tweaks to your stain from there and I then flush 10 to 14 days with a 15g/pot flush week7 day 1 then regular water let the plant eat the nutes it has stored in it till its done and the plant has nothing left in it and the buds are swollen and full of crust about 90% cloudy or first sign of amber
smoke is smooth high is almost narcotic like lol
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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204Kush Master said:
PK is very food sensitive feed , feed , water some times feed ,water ,water and a good rule to follow is 15,10,5 in veg 5,10 ,15 in bloom 3 part food slight tweaks to your stain from there and I then flush 10 to 14 days with a 15g/pot flush week7 day 1 then regular water let the plant eat the nutes it has stored in it till its done and the plant has nothing left in it and the buds are swollen and full of crust about 90% cloudy or first sign of amber
smoke is smooth high is almost narcotic like lol
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you didn't read that thread, you might have saw this if you did


The claim only ‘chemical’ ferted plants need to be flushed should be taken with a grain of salt. Organic and synthetic ferted plants take up mineral ions alike, probably to a different degree though. Many influences play key roles in the taste and flavor of the final bud, like the nutrition balance and strength throughout the entire life cycle of the plant, the drying and curing process and other environmental conditions.

3) Active transport mechanism of organic molecules into root hairs via endocytosis.

http://acd.ucar.edu/~eholland/encyc6.html

Here is a simplified overview of nutrient functions:

Nitrogen is needed to build chlorophyll, amino acids, and proteins. Phosphorus is necessary for photosynthesis and other growth processes. Potassium is utilized to form sugar and starch and to activate enzymes. Magnesium also plays a role in activating enzymes and is part of chlorophyll. Calcium is used during cell growth and division and is part of the cell wall. Sulfur is part of amino acids and proteins.

Plants also require trace elements, which include boron, chlorine, copper, iron, manganese, sodium, zinc, molybdenum, nickel, cobalt, and silicon.

Copper, iron, and manganese are used in photosynthesis. Molybdenum, nickel, and cobalt are necessary for the movement of nitrogen in the plant. Boron is important for reproduction, while chlorine stimulates root growth and development. Sodium benefits the movement of water within the plant and zinc is neeeded for enzymes and used in auxins (organic plant hormones). Finally, silicon helps to build tough cell walls for better heat and drought tolerance.

http://www.sidwell.edu

You can get an idea from this how closely all the essential elements are involved in the many metabolic processes within the plant, often relying on each other.

Nutrient movement and mobility inside the plant:

Besides endocytosis, there are two major pathways inside the plant, the xylem and the phloem. When water and minerals are absorbed by plant roots, these substances must be transported up to the plant's stems and leaves for photosynthesis and further metabolic processes. This upward transport happens in the xylem. While the xylem is able to transport organic compounds, the phloem is much more adapted to do so.

The organic compounds thus originating in the leaves have to be moved throughout the plant, upwards and downwards, to where they are needed. This transport happens in the phloem. Compounds that are moving through the phloem are mostly:
Sugars as sugary saps, organic nitrogen compounds (amino acids and amides, ureides and legumes), hormones and proteins.

http://www.sirinet.net

Not all nutrient compounds are moveable within the plant.

1) N, P, K, Mg and S are considered mobile: they can move up and down the plant in both xylem and phloem.
Deficiency appears on old leaves first.

2) Ca, Fe, Zn, Mo, B, Cu, Mn are considered immobile: they only move up the plant in the xylem.
Deficiency appears on new leaves first.
 
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