This is a different bulb though correct? Is it hard to wire those up/down transformers? I looked them up and you need a 500w one for the 315 and that's actually even a little cheaper than 50!
Informative video, thanks for the post!
If you have a batwing or simple hood barely 50% of the light hits the reflector. For the total light loss to be 20% that reflector would have to lose 40%, i.e. reflect only 60 opposed to that 95 (which I didn't claim, straw man...). Sounds "stretched". Putting it mildly
Can you really not see the bias... you're reaching. Which can only mean CMH is an excellent competitor. Besides that your IR spike argument really isn't as great as you think, it doesn't actually change the comparison you skewed and I set straight.
No. They "are" not. They can be, if you more than double the costs again. You should add a disclaimer every single time you make such statements. It's not what DIY flowering and veg cobs "now" "are". This is just another typical example of how you make comparisons. Inflate LED, and downplay HID. Same silliness as in post #61.
You just don't get it do you... I'm not the one with a horse in the race. Just because you want to misinform growers about HID doesn't mean I have something against COBs or LED... "HPS hater" became "LED hater" through the typical delusional projecting you guys do, that doesn't affect the reality.
Triple the price isn't always a problem. Not everyone wants it cheap and dirty. Some people don't mind a longer roi.If you have a batwing or simple hood barely 50% of the light hits the reflector. For the total light loss to be 20% that reflector would have to lose 40%, i.e. reflect only 60 opposed to that 95 (which I didn't claim, straw man...). Sounds "stretched". Putting it mildly
Can you really not see the bias... you're reaching. Which can only mean CMH is an excellent competitor. Besides that your IR spike argument really isn't as great as you think, it doesn't actually change the comparison you skewed and I set straight.
No. They "are" not. They can be, if you more than double the costs again. You should add a disclaimer every single time you make such statements. It's not what DIY flowering and veg cobs "now" "are". This is just another typical example of how you make comparisons. Inflate LED, and downplay HID. Same silliness as in post #61.
You just don't get it do you... I'm not the one with a horse in the race. Just because you want to misinform growers about HID doesn't mean I have something against COBs or LED... "HPS hater" became "LED hater" through the typical delusional projecting you guys do, that doesn't affect the reality.
And if the CRI was lower for the MH than the LEDs your compared to you would have told a different story...
Yes/No, it's the same 315w Elite Agro tech/specs in a different form factor (mogul), more like traditional bare bulb setups. The T9 form factor is designed more for fixture setups. imo it would be fine to run the T9 bare as it's protected but requires adaptors. Haven't had to use one of those converters as the 120v LEC's have them built in but they look really straight forward. At some point if I get a 240v circuit in my room I figure I'll just by-pass the transformer and set the ballast to 240v for better efficiency. The one converter I linked I googled real quick, but I've seen those as low as $35-$40 too.
You literally just said that and you have spread that misinformation before and I called you out on it before. I figured you would have learned your lesson but that is OK sometimes it takes me several times also. Your statement about a batwing reflector is incorrect, about 75% of the light is headed in the wrong direction and needs to be reflected. The video genuity posted says 60-65% even though this picture shows it as 75%.
So this bulb is JUST as efficient as the other non mogul type? Just windering
I am trained to recognize and avoid my own bias and sniff out BS, an annoying skeptic at parties probably. I am interested in the truth and ultimately filling my jars with dank nugs. I don't care which technology I use to get the job done. I have tried many and just want the best.
My veg lamp can go as high as 80% efficient at usable light levels, probably higher when on backup power. At normal brightness it is 70% and at full it is 64%. I was downplaying the COB numbers, not the HID. Also, we have CXB3590 3K CBs being tested NOW that are running at 58.7% efficiency out of curiosity. So if you want to go down the DIY road that is where we are at. But if you want to talk about engineering toward low cost COB, we can go that route with Vero29s and cut my costs by 3-4X, but that is not my design goal. I don't encourage most growers to build their lights like mine, I encourage a more reasonable cost compromise.
Apologies but I have no experience/insight in a vert setup like that, but I'd expect fantastic results considering I'm running just soil in pots and got over 1 gpw with mixed strains. In a numbers run like I'm running with those 4x Blue Dreams if I can reach 1.2 - 1.4 gpw, a vert setup should pull significantly higher. The only one I know in here running these mogul bulbs in a vert bare-bulb is @a senile fungus. I think you'd be fine in covering the vertical part with 4x bulbs, just not sure how the 2.7' radius would be for coverage/penetration. I've found the best output for my setup has been to have the bulb 20" above the canopy, with some strains it's penetrated and provided decent size buds right down to 24" below the canopy, so 44" from the bulb.
Yes, same specs, same wattage, same efficiency as long as it's the Elite Agro bulb, part numbers are the same other than the identifiers for the bulb type. Something to ask if you're talking to advanced and I'm pretty sure I've asked them in the past is I believe the only difference between the T9 and mogul bulb is the mogul form factor may only be available in the 4200k spectrum vs. 3100k and 4200k availability in the T9 form factor. idk if that would be anything to worry about but I've only run the 3100k bulbs as I use them strictly for flowering and those are the standard bulbs (T9-3100k) that come with the Sun Systems.
I don't think going over the classic led vs hps arguments is going to do this thread any good but that argument is so hard not to refute because, nothing personal, it's so typical and cliche.
wasting your time Sup...............this one doesn't want to learn.
It's all provoked.
