im Going orginac got some qustions and want some tips all the tips i will need to start growing

weednurd420

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ok so im sick of the other way i been doing it and want to go organic so some of what im asking may not makes any sense so bare with me...this may be a stupid question but I have never dun organic grow before lol and will be for now on kuz the other way is a pain in the ass some times , and organic just seams better, any way, i read to wait a month so your soil will be ready to grow in whats that mean any way , dose that mean i need to feed my soil with organic nutrients for 30 days before planting my seeds ??? I get impatient, is there a soil that i can buy and use right away ??? is it heard to fuck up when growing organic I follow directions pretty good lol im tired of messing with ph and ass that good shit.. I know I will be using
General Hydroponics line up 4 sure I dont realy know what to ask shuld i just grab the
General Hydroponics line up and start growing or is there moor to it lol,, dont 4 get i want to know about the soil thing and letting it sit for 30 days I will if i got to but dont want to if i dont got to.....
 
T macc

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composting, or "cooking", your soil for 30 days (or longer if you can) is referring to putting amendments into your soil. (I.E. alfalfa, kelp meal, fish bone, etc.)

Me personally, I would stay away from all bottled nutes. Even organic ones I don't trust. I'm sure there are others that will give you the ok on that. You mainly want to feed your soil, not your plants. It wouldn't be a bad idea to look into compost teas. or anything of the like.

And patience is key. For now, I guess I would do a few plants with what you have and look up some soil recipes, buy the amendments, and let sit untill you are ready.
 
weednurd420

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T macc said:
composting, or "cooking", your soil for 30 days (or longer if you can) is referring to putting amendments into your soil. (I.E. alfalfa, kelp meal, fish bone, etc.)

Me personally, I would stay away from all bottled nutes. Even organic ones I don't trust. I'm sure there are others that will give you the ok on that. You mainly want to feed your soil, not your plants. It wouldn't be a bad idea to look into compost teas. or anything of the like.

And patience is key. For now, I guess I would do a few plants with what you have and look up some soil recipes, buy the amendments, and let sit untill you are ready.
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ok so i just mix let it sit for 30 days and plant then water till its done, and how much compost tea do i need to give it when do i need to give it also do i need to keep watering my soil till 30 days are up or just water it the one time and let is sit
 
Dr. Who

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Tidal

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I agree with the "no bottled nutes" thing. Chemical nutes in your soil might sterilize it (not good). Organic growing means understanding that your soil is alive and has its own little eco-system. Check out something called "evergrow" (http://www.sunwheelorganics.com/). Works great for reducing your "cook" time for your soil and keeps it healthy. Beneficials are your friend :)
 
weednurd420

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THIS SEAMS LIKE A QUESTION KNOW 1 CAN ANSWER OR GIVE A STRAGHT YES OR NO 2 any thing on this question the question is under all the names of gh products i listed ..im wanting to use there
General Hydroponics Diamond Black 1 Quart qt 32oz - organic nutrient supplement
General Hydroponics CaMg+ - organics cal mag calcium magnesium supplement
General Organics BioMarine 1-Quart QT 946mL 32oz Squid Supplement
General Organics BioBud Bloom Booster 32 oz 0.5-0.1-
General Organics BioWeed 1 Quart 32 oz - organics bioweed
General Organics Bio Root 1 Quart 32oz - bioroot gh organic vitamin stem
General Organics Bio Thrive Bloom 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive gh
General Organics Bio Thrive Grow 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive and was wondering if i got to cook the soil first before using that shit i dont vill like wating 30 days to grow, or can i just get the soil plant my seeds and add the gh as needed ??
 
T macc

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Mixing a soil, and using only water is much easier than trying to use bottles. you don't necessarily need a microbe tea for your soil either. Water Only start to finish!
 
weednurd420

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T macc said:
Mixing a soil, and using only water is much easier than trying to use bottles. you don't necessarily need a microbe tea for your soil either. Water Only start to finish!
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im willing to learn how to mix it give ma a good mix res and I will right it down and try it, dont i got to layer it and all that good shit, like to have a mix for just 10 gallons hope you can sent me one
 
weednurd420

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T macc said:
Mixing a soil, and using only water is much easier than trying to use bottles. you don't necessarily need a microbe tea for your soil either. Water Only start to finish!
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i also seen somthing that said i cant grow with super soil unless i use big pots i cant go over 5 gal in my grow room
 
T macc

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Subcools recipe isn't TOO bad. but a lot of ppl disagree with it. I'm using subcools soil in 5 gallon pots for my outdoor autos.

If you use a smaller pot, iI would probably only put maybe 25 - 30% supersoil at the bottom
 
_MrBelvedere_

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weednurd420 said:
THIS SEAMS LIKE A QUESTION KNOW 1 CAN ANSWER OR GIVE A STRAGHT YES OR NO 2 any thing on this question the question is under all the names of gh products i listed ..im wanting to use there
General Hydroponics Diamond Black 1 Quart qt 32oz - organic nutrient supplement
General Hydroponics CaMg+ - organics cal mag calcium magnesium supplement
General Organics BioMarine 1-Quart QT 946mL 32oz Squid Supplement
General Organics BioBud Bloom Booster 32 oz 0.5-0.1-
General Organics BioWeed 1 Quart 32 oz - organics bioweed
General Organics Bio Root 1 Quart 32oz - bioroot gh organic vitamin stem
General Organics Bio Thrive Bloom 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive gh
General Organics Bio Thrive Grow 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive and was wondering if i got to cook the soil first before using that shit i dont vill like wating 30 days to grow, or can i just get the soil plant my seeds and add the gh as needed ??
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Oh my God lol. Based on your past experiences where are you making this so difficult for yourself? It's really easy if you stick to something simple and not complicated
 
Tidal

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weednurd420 said:
THIS SEAMS LIKE A QUESTION KNOW 1 CAN ANSWER OR GIVE A STRAGHT YES OR NO 2 any thing on this question the question is under all the names of gh products i listed ..im wanting to use there
General Hydroponics Diamond Black 1 Quart qt 32oz - organic nutrient supplement
General Hydroponics CaMg+ - organics cal mag calcium magnesium supplement
General Organics BioMarine 1-Quart QT 946mL 32oz Squid Supplement
General Organics BioBud Bloom Booster 32 oz 0.5-0.1-
General Organics BioWeed 1 Quart 32 oz - organics bioweed
General Organics Bio Root 1 Quart 32oz - bioroot gh organic vitamin stem
General Organics Bio Thrive Bloom 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive gh
General Organics Bio Thrive Grow 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive and was wondering if i got to cook the soil first before using that shit i dont vill like wating 30 days to grow, or can i just get the soil plant my seeds and add the gh as needed ??
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Bro, you can replace most of that shit with Evergrow http://www.sunwheelorganics.com/store.html and it'll save you a buttload of money. Don't go crazy with the supplements before you know what you're doing. Read the info that everyone has posted and keep it simple.
 
Dr. Who

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Tidal said:
Bro, you can replace most of that shit with Evergrow http://www.sunwheelorganics.com/store.html and it'll save you a buttload of money. Don't go crazy with the supplements before you know what you're doing. Read the info that everyone has posted and keep it simple.
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Mmm,,yeah, ok then, sure.....Another product that we can't live without....
Great claims and heard that before....

I just want to know whats in it?????
Now why don't list that?

Why is there no OMARI stamp on the jug?
 
Tidal

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Dr. Who said:
Mmm,,yeah, ok then, sure.....Another product that we can't live without....
Great claims and heard that before....

I just want to know whats in it?????
Now why don't list that?

Why is there no OMARI stamp on the jug?
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*shrug* I just know I've tried just about everything on my grows and have seen alot of $ down the drain on junk. The few things I use I like. It's just my personal tastes from my own experiences. Looking at a bottle here: lists lots of things. Anyways that's besides the point: I'm just trying to help the OP not to follow in my footsteps of throwing his money away. He needs to check out the FREE info posted here and learn the basics.
 
DonTesla

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weednurd420 said:
yea im taking steps I will go 100 % organics after i get a cople grows under my belt
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Nothing wrong with progressing along the continuum of organics, so long as you're moving in the right direction

I know some medical growers who gave up on organics and smoke shatter everywhere they go, talk about unfortunate.

Just don't get too caught up or dependent in complete series of bottles bro,
cause you'd be surprised what's in coconut and aloe, alone, and how simple and comprehensive a simple thing like cinnamon can be.
Not to be a broken record but silly to not use these things imo.

Cal mag is just too gimicky to pay for for myself, or any bottle jus bout., but I understand your rush and itch to start.. I do. Gotta let the growing passion bubble

Just Don't underestimate Mother Nature,
Or how near the improvements can be,
Nor the power of any one improvement

In other words, build the habit now
It will require knowledge, skill and desire. Never mind time

Now, Best of luck !
and congratulations on starting your journey !
 
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Dr. Who

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weednurd420 said:
THIS SEAMS LIKE A QUESTION KNOW 1 CAN ANSWER OR GIVE A STRAGHT YES OR NO 2 any thing on this question the question is under all the names of gh products i listed ..im wanting to use there
General Hydroponics Diamond Black 1 Quart qt 32oz - organic nutrient supplement
General Hydroponics CaMg+ - organics cal mag calcium magnesium supplement
General Organics BioMarine 1-Quart QT 946mL 32oz Squid Supplement
General Organics BioBud Bloom Booster 32 oz 0.5-0.1-
General Organics BioWeed 1 Quart 32 oz - organics bioweed
General Organics Bio Root 1 Quart 32oz - bioroot gh organic vitamin stem
General Organics Bio Thrive Bloom 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive gh
General Organics Bio Thrive Grow 32 oz ounce Quart qt - organics biothrive and was wondering if i got to cook the soil first before using that shit i dont vill like wating 30 days to grow, or can i just get the soil plant my seeds and add the gh as needed ??
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I would run Roots organics before that. AND Age old organics before THAT!
Age old has some nice liquids.
They have some very nice dry nutrients.
Age old is the only liquid kelp I use, when I use a liquid.

There are organic single nutrients available in macro and micro nutes.....If you want to,,,,,,you can "push" it, just like synthetic's "push" the nutritional envelope.....You can go water only, or teas only, OR,,,,you can do any combination of organic styles and as different as you want to. It only takes the time you put in to dial in your method. Just like synthetics.

Organics is no more difficult and lots more rewarding......

Again, read this to understand just what organics is and how it works....Nothing but facts here. In the second half of the book it starts to explain the "HOW" and the chapter on AACT teas is worth the price of the book it's self!
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microbes-Organic-Gardeners-Revised/dp/1604691131

Doc
 
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