9/3 light cycle for veg?

[Swims_GD]

Never tried myself<<<
Does not mean I have not been involved where this method has been practised.
also you are talking about a veg time... not flowering? If it is a proven method to increase plant flowering then why do so many not use it? we are thinking outside the box to give plants the shortest lifespan but there best output. no sacrifices for power consumption.
I merely mentioned that at the start of the thread as 'added info'

p.s read the thread before you want to jump on my advice/opinions

 

[Jodon]

the 1 hour keeps them from flowering while using mimimal energy.

To be honest the gas lantern technique is what I am using right now and my plants seem extremely small at 5 inches for the tallest one after almost 5 weeks of veg, looking to change cycle, hopefully it doesn't fuck with the plants too much, might just flower and change for next grow but I have 4 different guaranteed strains and a couple outdoor none of them seem to like the light cycle

 

[Swims_GD]

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To be honest the gas lantern technique is what I am using right now and my plants seem extremely small at 5 inches for the tallest one after almost 5 weeks of veg, looking to change cycle, hopefully it doesn't fuck with the plants too much, might just flower and change for next grow but I have 4 different guaranteed strains and a couple outdoor none of them seem to like the light cycle

GLR? Minimising the lights on period through flowering?

 

[BeastGrow]

To be honest the gas lantern technique is what I am using right now and my plants seem extremely small at 5 inches for the tallest one after almost 5 weeks of veg, looking to change cycle, hopefully it doesn't fuck with the plants too much, might just flower and change for next grow but I have 4 different guaranteed strains and a couple outdoor none of them seem to like the light cycle

5 inches at 5 weeks? i've got 5 inch plants at 5 days old. its your light or your soil is too wet (not enough oxygen)

 

[Jodon]

5 inches at 5 weeks? i've got 5 inch plants at 5 days old. its your light or your soil is too wet (not enough oxygen)

I know I water them like once every week to 2 weeks, I think it's the lights, the nicest one has 8 sets of leaves though really bushy, I'm thinkin change the cycle and hope for the best

 

[Swims_GD]

5 inches at 5 weeks? i've got 5 inch plants at 5 days old. its your light or your soil is too wet (not enough oxygen)

beg to differ...

4weeks from seed in soil
110-120mm tall (approx. 4'')
50w cfl.

 

[Swims_GD]

I know I water them like once every week to 2 weeks, I think it's the lights, the nicest one has 8 sets of leaves though really bushy, I'm thinkin change the cycle and hope for the best

My honest opinion, set a light cycle and stick with it for a few weeks, keep watering as they need it.

Whats your pot size?. small pot = small plant.

Do you want small plants or larger.?

Now would be a good time to transplant them if there going to need extra root space.

I also notice you mentioned you have different strains.... remember that indica and sativa produce mostly opposite sized plants. where 1 might only have 10%Sativa 90%Indica making it short and stocky with broad leaves. another may be the opposite giving you to tall plants with long slim leaves.

Take note if the shorter plants have broader stocky leaves compared to the tall ones.

Do You Have a Picture?

The one below is 4 weeks old, 80%Sativa, under 50wat cfl. and is 4'' tall.
I transplanted it from a 5cm pot to this one at 2 weeks old, in approximately 1 -2weeks I will be transplanting it from this 15cm (150mm or 4'') pot to a 15ltr (30cm x 30cm) as the bottom will have root balled by then.

What is your setup?
What is your Grow Plan?

Here's a Thought, you should make a thread to put all your grow info on the first post with pictures and you can be helped further. There are lots of experienced commercial and private horticulturalists that will be happy to share there knowledge and wisdom

 

[purplehays1]

wheres flowering come into this ?
your op says 18/6 veg 9/3
and 24/0

i never mentioned flower time .

I misunderstood the op's question. The answer is very simple, no, you are not better off giving the plant a broken up light schedule instead of 16-24 hours of straight light. If you have no energy savings, no heat issues ect, there is NO REASON to give a plant less than 12 hours of light straight. I was under the impression the OP was asking if a plant would stay in veg under a shortened light/dark schedule, which is assuredly will.

 

[mainliner]

I misunderstood the op's question. The answer is very simple, no, you are not better off giving the plant a broken up light schedule instead of 16-24 hours of straight light. If you have no energy savings, no heat issues ect, there is NO REASON to give a plant less than 12 hours of light straight. I was under the impression the OP was asking if a plant would stay in veg under a shortened light/dark schedule, which is assuredly will.

okay

 

[Swims_GD]

okay

lol

 

[Swims_GD]

I think this is a good example of why some things are best left un-changed, maybe I should just have been blunt to the same point as 'purplehay' instead of getting involved so far I had to explain the questions in my head at the same time.

 

[Swims_GD]

I misunderstood the op's question. The answer is very simple, no, you are not better off giving the plant a broken up light schedule instead of 16-24 hours of straight light. If you have no energy savings, no heat issues ect, there is NO REASON to give a plant less than 12 hours of light straight. I was under the impression the OP was asking if a plant would stay in veg under a shortened light/dark schedule, which is assuredly will.

the original op from was to find out if they can stay under a shortened dark times, but in the same response you had to argue if it was not for the purpose of saving on energy, it was solely for the purpose of shortening its life span and still getting the most out of it. so therefore is it possible to take the longer/shorter veg/flower times into flower to get a fast yield, but arguably would not be optimum.

 

[Chester da Horse]

9/3/9/3 = worse lifespan on your HID bulbs (if thats what you grow under) cos the most wear/tear on the bulb and ballast is on startup and this doubles the number of startups

 

[Gquebed]

There is an article about exactly this in the feb/march issue of skunk mag, called control your cannabis deux. Check it out...

I think the guy says 12/5 then 1.5/5.5 or something. He also says 6/18 for flower is good enough too...

 

[Jodon]

There is an article about exactly this in the feb/march issue of skunk mag, called control your cannabis deux. Check it out...

I think the guy says 12/5 then 1.5/5.5 or something. He also says 6/18 for flower is good enough too...

Just the fact you used the words good enough makes me want to stay away from it.

 

[markymark88]

IMO I don't think it would be beneficial. As soon as the light goes off the plant isn't sleeping it takes time I'm sure every strain is different but it's not instant. So by doubling this every day you have the changeover time for the plant twice as long. It probably wouldn't kill it but just grow slower. Again just my opinion

 

[Jodon]

IMO I don't think it would be beneficial. As soon as the light goes off the plant isn't sleeping it takes time I'm sure every strain is different but it's not instant. So by doubling this every day you have the changeover time for the plant twice as long. It probably wouldn't kill it but just grow slower. Again just my opinion

So that would guarantee making longer days like 24 on 6 off would be good, if the strain can handle it that is, because that time it takes to "start up"

 

[markymark88]

So that would guarantee making longer days like 24 on 6 off would be good, if the strain can handle it that is, because that time it takes to "start up"

Idk man never tried it but I'd be afraid of hermies. 18/6 or 20/4 works good for me. you might find a strain that likes it but I think you'll find most won't. why don't you try it and report back?

 

[Jodon]

Idk man never tried it but I'd be afraid of hermies. 18/6 or 20/4 works good for me. you might find a strain that likes it but I think you'll find most won't. why don't you try it and report back?

I'm thinkin so, got plenty of time to mess around so I will try with one soon. If I can find a strain that might like the long days keep it for clones.

 

[Gquebed]

Just the fact you used the words good enough makes me want to stay away from it.

Good enough....sorry, poor choice of words. What the guy was saying in the article is that the plant can only use so much light. They get "tired" when overworked just like people do and optimum productions is lost. According to an Oregon agricultural study plants grow more when sleeping just like people do so when e pending more energy growing flowers they need more rest.

What makes sense to me is that if the amount of light can signal the plant to start producing flowers then logic suggests that it can also signal the plant to produce at faster rates. In the article, the guy tested the theory and said that with 6/18 for flower he gets more weight in buds, the buds finish faster and less electricity is used.

Makes sense to me...