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Flaming Pie

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Mad Hamish said:
This is not a problem, but a challenge. Throw up some more details and we can all rub some synapses together and find a solution for you. There is a professional AC guy on RIU that gives very solid advice on climate control, venting etc, I can find him easily I think he is called someacdude... Anyhow I have vented multiple tents from one outlet pretty much every time. Booster fans are your friend. Way I see it inline fans are cheap enough far as grow gear goes to shove in as many as you need. Two eights I would duct into a ten inch and out from there. Moves a fuktonne of air with no issues. Normally the problem is positive pressure build up where the ducts join, it can stop your extraction dead on for sure, but add a fan to move that air and it works perfectly well. I went to the hardware store and found plumbing fittings for toilets that come with a ten inch opening splitting into two eights. No idea what it is really used for but does the job for joining ducts.
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I will take some pictures later for sure.

Positive pressure was the problem and I only had the fans I had so we had to take everything apart again.

I have limited amounts of time to do things in the garden due to being a mother. Naps and bedtime are when I have time.
 
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This is the space I am working with.

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There is my dry tent hooked into my flower tent for scrubbing.

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I used this wye duct and you can see in the lower photo where I attached it to the joist.
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I was running the exhaust through the chimney but it was going straight in instead of up the chimney and that caused some problems. Guy I talked to was going to chisel an opening to mortar an angle up the chimney. I freaked out tho because I felt like a horrible person for possibly putting my family in danger of carbon monoxide poisoning. So I just had him vent it out the window near my AC.
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The vent above the water heater was back flowing due to the positive pressure the exhaust was causing.

I feel I would need to run another fan at the same CFM as the flower tent fan to stop backflow through the wye. It would have to be an inline fan I am guessing. The duct fan couldnt fight the pressure of the flower fan and was letting some air back into the veg tent (I used a paper to see).

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If your veg tent is not running too hot, that can vent into the flowering tent and out the normal vent without adding another fan on the outlet. If that is not an option then a bigger fan than your flower outlet will be a good investment. Might be a tad overkill BUT that sets you up for a second flower tent. What are you running in veg far as lighting goes?
 
Flaming Pie

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Mad Hamish said:
If your veg tent is not running too hot, that can vent into the flowering tent and out the normal vent without adding another fan on the outlet. If that is not an option then a bigger fan than your flower outlet will be a good investment. Might be a tad overkill BUT that sets you up for a second flower tent. What are you running in veg far as lighting goes?
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600w HPS for flower 400w MH for veg

I only have two ports I can use on that side. One has to always be available for the dry tent. Although I suppose I could vent the dry tent into the veg tent.

I know the veg tent heats up my large basement room alot in the summer. I cringe to think what would happen to my flowering girls.

A larger fan would require an 8 inch.. The duct out of the house is a 6 inch. Such a short distance to the exhaust out too. Literally less than 4 feet. I don't know if I would be able to fit a reducer, a wye and duct work.

Torch1 said:
couldn't you use an in-line blower on the exhaust end of the wye?

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Lol. I can't believe how fricking simple a solution I over looked.

The only thing that worries me is the short distance to the exhaust and the reduced airflow in the flower tent. Since only half the cfm will be running through it. That is (at the things max cfm of 420) 210 CFM. Things were a bit too warm when I was running it at 380 CFM. I was planning on pushing it to 420 this summer.

Another thing I could consider is putting the wye in the tent. Have the veg tent go into the flower tent to the wye with the filter attached to its other end. The fan would be outside the tent or on the other side. If it was on the outside of the tent it wouldn't have enough room for both ports to be occupied and still vent out tho...

Inside tent would look like this. (top down view)

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I would still run into problems venting the dry tent. The veg tent and dry tent are the same width. MAybe this way...

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Those angles from the filter to fan..

Still have the issue of CFM and reducers if buying an 8 inch fan tho. I need at lead 380 CFM in the summer time. Much over 400 and I am reducing the efficiency of my filter. Max CFM is 600 and I know that is the number for scrubbing. I believe half the max is the exhaust number.

I could always try to wait until the filter needed to be replaced and go with a larger one. Maybe have a larger fan filter combo for summer and a smaller one for winter.

So much to think about!!!!!!!



 
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The leaves turned dark leathery bluish right before harvest. Some of the buds had a bluegrayish hue them.

Had the least amount of stretch, sturdy branches and easy canopy.

#1 yielded me 5.25 oz in a five gallon root routing pot. Was in top spot for yield followed a couple grams behind by #2. (she was second shortest as well)
 

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Mad Hamish

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Flaming Pie said:
600w HPS for flower 400w MH for veg

I only have two ports I can use on that side. One has to always be available for the dry tent. Although I suppose I could vent the dry tent into the veg tent.

I know the veg tent heats up my large basement room alot in the summer. I cringe to think what would happen to my flowering girls.

A larger fan would require an 8 inch.. The duct out of the house is a 6 inch. Such a short distance to the exhaust out too. Literally less than 4 feet. I don't know if I would be able to fit a reducer, a wye and duct work.





Lol. I can't believe how fricking simple a solution I over looked.

The only thing that worries me is the short distance to the exhaust and the reduced airflow in the flower tent. Since only half the cfm will be running through it. That is (at the things max cfm of 420) 210 CFM. Things were a bit too warm when I was running it at 380 CFM. I was planning on pushing it to 420 this summer.

Another thing I could consider is putting the wye in the tent. Have the veg tent go into the flower tent to the wye with the filter attached to its other end. The fan would be outside the tent or on the other side. If it was on the outside of the tent it wouldn't have enough room for both ports to be occupied and still vent out tho...

Inside tent would look like this. (top down view)

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I would still run into problems venting the dry tent. The veg tent and dry tent are the same width. MAybe this way...

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Those angles from the filter to fan..

Still have the issue of CFM and reducers if buying an 8 inch fan tho. I need at lead 380 CFM in the summer time. Much over 400 and I am reducing the efficiency of my filter. Max CFM is 600 and I know that is the number for scrubbing. I believe half the max is the exhaust number.

I could always try to wait until the filter needed to be replaced and go with a larger one. Maybe have a larger fan filter combo for summer and a smaller one for winter.

So much to think about!!!!!!!



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I just switched to T5 from MH and not looking back, same reasons as you really. I need to vent veg out through flower, absolutely no other options for me at the moment. Short distances are dealt with by looping ducts, and my fans are all spaced next to each other working right by the vent. You just need some cheaper ducting lol. Negative pressure all the way. The t5 veg area is kicking the living shit out of the MH. I never realized how much my girls were actually bleached. A 400 MH means business. I removed all HID from veg. Getting shorter plants with tighter nodes and waaaaaaaay more branching. Before, Synergy was a little bean pole, now they are fat Indy looking bushes. My mothers are sooooo happy with the fluoros. single booster fan for your outlet will do the job though.
 
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