Leaves dying

[Gquebed]

No, it's bringing air from the house. Not outside

That is the problem. I did the same thing. I can show you what your plants will look like if you keep going to the end without bringing in the fresh air. Its really sad. Find a way to get fresh outside air to you plants...they will bounce back fast...

 

[Gquebed]

And peeps here will ridicule me for my diagnoses. But i spent weeks trying to figure out what was going wrong with my plants. Nute burn. Ph lockout. All if it. Then a guy saw my pics and said fresh air. I had nothing else to do so i tried it and boom... but it was too late for me...

 

[boilingoil]

There is no solids in any of my nutrients

 

[boilingoil]

I just think you are using the wrong terms is all.

 

[Gquebed]

I just think you are using the wrong terms is all.

There is no solids in any of my nutrients

Yes there is.

Pure h2o does not conduct electricity. But add some salts, bacteria and other minerals ("solids") and water will conduct electricty. A ppm meter measures the level of electrical conductivity in the water. Even if your nutes appears to be liquid the actual nutrients are not.

So...if you measure ppm from runoff you will be measuring the dirt that is in it and bugs and dead plant material...and your ppm meter reading wl be off the charts...

 

[boilingoil]

That is the problem. I did the same thing. I can show you what your plants will look like if you keep going to the end without bringing in the fresh air. Its really sad. Find a way to get fresh outside air to you plants...they will bounce back fast...

And how do people run sealed grow rooms without outside air intakes

 

[boilingoil]

Nitrogen is a gas in nature.

 

[Gquebed]

And how do people run sealed grow rooms without outside air intakes

They add co2.

 

[Gquebed]

fresh brings in levels of co2 at about 400ppm. That's what the plants need at least. if they do not get that they start to eat themselves looking for co2 and they "appear" to "burn" up. See below.

It started with brown spots that look like nute burn. then it just gets worse and worse until..... you end up with a plant that looks like the last pic... it should have yielded about 3-4 ounces and only gave me one.

Sometimes it is the simple things.....

 

[Criminal wheat]

There is only one way to test the theory, I have two of them that will soon looks like that I m loosing all the leaf mass, they are dying fast, I will try it and keep you posted

 

[Gquebed]

Just give em some fresh air and they will be fine. Youre not the first that ive helped with this problem...

 

[Criminal wheat]

Just give em some fresh air and they will be fine. Youre not the first that ive helped with this problem...

It will sound stupid, but I think you are right, cracked a window 5 hours ago and now they are perking right up, I will see tomorrow see what they look like hopefully it was the answer.

 

[Criminal wheat]

Today even with the window cracked it was really bad again, a lot of leaves dead. I m gonna try to completely flush the soil and start from fresh. What ph you guys keep your run off usually ?

 

[whitebb2727]

Nitrogen is a gas in nature.

Yes but your nutrients have nitrates in them. Please do a google search. Ppm=parts per million. Nutrients are made from salts. There is no nitrogen gas in your bottle.

Wtf? Are you serious?

 

[boilingoil]

You are correct. I was thinking on the molecular level.

 

[boilingoil]

Yes but your nutrients have nitrates in them. Please do a google search. Ppm=parts per million. Nutrients are made from salts. There is no nitrogen gas in your bottle.

Wtf? Are you serious?

My point is that the plants only use the nitrogen element and reject the o2.

 

[whitebb2727]

My point is that the plants only use the nitrogen element and reject the o2.

Nitrogen gas in the air is different than urea nitrogen and ammoniacal nitrogen.

 

[boilingoil]

The only reason they are different is what the Nitrogen molecule is bonded with.

 

[Bud Tipps]

I would try flushing it until the ppm is in the 1000 - 1500 range.