It gets so hot here. I would really like led's to work. So I was hoping......180 watt cheapo led light that I got a really good deal on. I'm not a "believer" just yet but so far they seem to be doing well. I have noticed they do not have the penetration or footprint that I'd like. I've used nothing but hids since the late 90's so its a chance for me to get into something new.