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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Growing this Congo cross... smells like puppy breath on one pheno. The rest smell like sweaty day laborer. I kid you not. Meh.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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I have some cherry ak x ww x jack herer x romulan( I think, I ordered a ton of seeds recently,its def cherry an:-)) on the way..I'm excited..I've been wanting to try the golden goat..Jo is such a keeper..lol,I still only popped one seed!!! Not often that happens.. Results are clear..the judges lean.lol
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I am going a little Jo crazy over here... Lemon Thai x Joseph, Golden Goat x Jo, Cherry AK x Jo all in flower as of yesterday. Upgraded the tent to winter configuration, a little warm but hey, if you can't stand the heat then throw a banana and be culled lol. Warming up for my keeper runs now. Last few crosses to explore then I shall unleash the fury. Its going to look like an early snow hit the inside of my tent lol. Carbon scrubners will be totally futile.
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Mad Hamish

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rory420420 said:
Like your new avatar BTW..
I've yet to run bodhi.hint,hint,wink wink,nudge nudge:-)
I'm not slothish..but postal inspectors are;-)
Summer fun? We got 16in of snow with more falling now...
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Well slap me silly and call me Betty, I will need to send you some DeadlyG gear. Be forewarned, you can't flower them from seed at all, only clones run stable. But holy shit mate.... only thing ever I can't finish a joint of. Bongs are murder.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Mad Hamish said:
Well slap me silly and call me Betty, I will need to send you some DeadlyG gear. Be forewarned, you can't flower them from seed at all, only clones run stable. But holy shit mate.... only thing ever I can't finish a joint of. Bongs are murder.
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Hey Betty,
Why not stable from seed but stable with the clone of?This is new to me..I thought clones were identical in every way..I'm no pro breeder tho..so I know jack..
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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rory420420 said:
Hey Betty,
Why not stable from seed but stable with the clone of?This is new to me..I thought clones were identical in every way..I'm no pro breeder tho..so I know jack..
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Something I learned from the real pro testers and some other really advanced fellas here like Calicat. It moves into what SHOE calls 'epigenetics'. Basically not all genetic potential is ever expressed. So each time you clone a generation onwards, fresh genetic expressions can manifest, giving you your own phenotype based on your environment and plant genotype. With the DeadlyG this was a sure fire way to tame the bananas. The DeadlyG dad is one badass son of a bitch that tends to give balls and nanners in the first generation from seed plants. The line was dropped and all testing aborted but I carried on and tamed two crosses anyhow, and I am not regretting it at all. Total hitman Indy type herb. Resistance is futile. Anyhow, many people hold that a plant that gives bananas will not do it as clones and I have found this to be accurate. Conversely, enough light and ciculation and i mean fuckloads will probably see seed plants through with the DeadlyG.
 
rory420420

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I do both really.. I plant a seed,how it up to take 8to10 clones and throw it into flower..if I like it,in 2 months or so I keep a clone,throw the others into flower and start it over again...
 
MrEDuck

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Mad Hamish said:
Something I learned from the real pro testers and some other really advanced fellas here like Calicat. It moves into what SHOE calls 'epigenetics'. Basically not all genetic potential is ever expressed. So each time you clone a generation onwards, fresh genetic expressions can manifest, giving you your own phenotype based on your environment and plant genotype. With the DeadlyG this was a sure fire way to tame the bananas. The DeadlyG dad is one badass son of a bitch that tends to give balls and nanners in the first generation from seed plants. The line was dropped and all testing aborted but I carried on and tamed two crosses anyhow, and I am not regretting it at all. Total hitman Indy type herb. Resistance is futile. Anyhow, many people hold that a plant that gives bananas will not do it as clones and I have found this to be accurate. Conversely, enough light and ciculation and i mean fuckloads will probably see seed plants through with the DeadlyG.
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I've definitely seen plants that throw nanners low early in flower the first time don't do it on subsequent runs. I'm not sure how much clones adapt though. The phenotype will change as the environment does but I've seen stability in a stable environment.
 
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Mad Hamish

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MrEDuck said:
I've definitely seen plants that throw nannies low early in flower the first time don't do it. I'm not sure how much clones adapt that. The phenotype will change as the environment does but I've seen stability in a stable environment.
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The 'OG' nanners I call them. Low down little suckers that seem to never re appear as long as you blast enough light down there. A few of my keepers did that and never showed a banana since. This is a topic where I have participated in many discussions all devoid of any real science or conclusion. Only thing I found of real use so far, is that peer review has shown beyond doubt that MOST ladies that her out do not do it as clones. Some Cali Connection gear and of course Thai crosses can't be saved no matter what though. I guess it boils down to if it is a true hermaphrodite gene, or if the girls are so finicky they stress out easily at first. Mostly I have found the latter to be true, and I will only pass along risky genetics if I have EASILY tamed them myself. Still waiting for the real science to emerge slowly on this, fascinating topic most certainly!
 
Bublonichronic

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I noticed clones are less likely to herm too, and if they still do after cloning a couple generations of cloning will stop it most times..this my superlemonhaze x querkle got a really fruity smell and gets really purple around week 8, I been callin it super space haze
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