Lets Debunk Advanced Nutrients Once and For All, A Guide For Every Noob.

[weedenhanced]

Few reasons I use it.

Sensi AB works well in recirculating systems.

No ph stuffing around.

It works.

Others do not like it.

I get people not being into it. It's almost obsessive tho. Like people won't let others use it if they aren't. Not everyone wants to stuff around making your own nutes etc.
You do to some degree get what you pay for. It's easy to use and works so I'll pay that little extra whlist others don't sleep, thinking about the company for whatever reason.

Try Dutch masters gold range 2 part
It works well I never ph or use or water or any that crap I just mix and use never had burn never had a defiency

 

[rollyouron]

I use Jacks and Dyna, but there is something AN does right, and that's their PH up and PH down. They by far are the best I've used.

 

[budman111]

I'll pay that little extra

Why? because Big Mike has programmed you with his relentless, inaccurate and aggressive advertising to make you think all other products are inferior when, actualy is AN product that are inferior by quite a lot, its just packaged in a dazzling cartoon to catch the 'weak' minded my friend why think and learn for yourself when you have fat Mike to do that for you ...hows the "KUSHY KUSH" lately eh?

 

[ttystikk]

I use Jacks and Dyna, but there is something AN does right, and that's their PH up and PH down. They by far are the best I've used.

Try Mad Farmer brand. Highly concentrated, uses a mix of materials to work best for growing applications.

Or, battery acid from AutoZone.

 

[panhead]

I see a lot of noobs asking about A.N. totally unaware of the unscrupulous morals of this company preying on the very deep pocket of the unaware noob with no knowledge of what they are getting into, well lets get one thing strait here...NOTHING is advanced whatever with this company apart from being advanced shysters making noobs buy 28 bottles and heavily relies on genius marketing techniques, changing bottle labels every year to make you buy the new ones and spew propaganda with a glossy newsletter not worth mentioning.

A master technique they use is 'prestige marketing pricing techniques' only noobs fall for, If you think Connoisseur is worth $100's dollars a gallon, read on.

Remember a plant only cares about the N-P-K ratios on the bottle, not the designer price or the cartoons on the shiny - glossy label, which really says it all on the target market intended here.

Kushie Kush, LOL what the fuck? really? this deserves an A.N. boycott on merit alone. 'Kush' needs different nutrient elements from almost every other plant does it?...BULLSHIT.

Budcandy - $30 for a Liter of sugar/Molasses.

Overdrive - A weak PK, can be bought way cheaper.

Bud ignitor - $50 for an extremely weak PK. Avoid.

B52 - Vitamins - Absolutely no world value whatsoever, plants produce what they need.

Big Bud - Amino Acids, again, absolutely no world value whatsoever, plants produce what they need.

Voodoo Juice - Roots Excelerator will go waaaay further for less money if you really think you need a root boost.


You must also buy a separate A.N. calmag solution, one for grow AND one for bloom...seeing the pattern?...

cue the AN reps...

Advanced Nutrients HA !, even their name is a gimmick, this post was spot on , AN uses suedo science to back up their claims , uses shady marketing hype , over charges customers using highly proven sales techniques where if it costs more it must be better & you get what you pay for nonsense , what you get with AN is a dozen bottles of nutes , half of them not even needed by the plant .

Anybody who spends a whole day reading up on & understanding NPK Macro & Micro nutes can get their fertilizer from a Quality Farm & Fleet or other farm & garden supply at 1/10th the cost & better results .

AN's molasses scam & Superthrive scam should be enough by theirselve to alert consumers the entire company business model is based on taking advantage of the ignorance of most gardeners understanding of what nutes plants need , how plants turn nutes into useable forms of energy ect .

AN & superthrive are like flushing $20 bills down the toilet , the shit they sell to add flavors like grape & berry flavor slay me every time i see some wide eyed grower buying them .

Great thread .

 

[az2000]

No need to leave it in the sun, just let it sit. For chloramines, add a tiny pinch of table sugar.

Do you have a link to sugar doing something to chloramines? I googled and didn't see anything.

I wonder if this is just a matter of the sugar helping the microbes recover from the chloramine?

I wonder if anyone's done a test to see what soil microbe count looks like before and after watering with tap water. The amount of chlorine/chloramine used isn't high. I believe they only use enough to keep the water from sliming inside the pipes. It's basically a sterile enviornment anyway. I'd think the sanitizing capacity would be exhausted in the first inch of soil.

 

[greendave]

After seeing yet another post trashing AN for one thing or another, none of it seemingly from experience. I'm thinking there's a handful of users here with some personal vendetta against AN. I use the AN base A&B nutes to supplement my medium, particularly through flowering. No additional supplements or products as I don't think they're necessary and just marketing hype. If you buy into any manufacturers bull-shit or add-on's, don't blame them, blame yourself. I've estimated my nute cost at somewhere between $0.06 and $0.09 per gram of output, depending on the type of run I'm doing and final weight. At that cost I don't care what the fuck is in it, I have more important areas of my grow to spend time on and improve. If you say they don't work or I'm doing something wrong here, please educate me...
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Well put looks good dog.

 

[panhead]

I just got a bunch of AN nutes for free. My buddy was raving about them, quoting magazines and whatnot. I told him i was happy with my GH 3 part for $75 ( which has lasted my a couple grows so far) and i wasn't about to spend close to $200 on just veg nutes..F that.. i told him you like it you buy it for me..well he showed up with A&B grow and a couple additives, lol. guess I'm giving it a try..I can't see it outperforming GH enough to warrant the huge price difference.

It wont outperform GH 3 part series of nutes .

Everybody who buys hydro shop nutes really should stop by a farm supply store & look at the liquid nutes farmers use , same shit as AN's 6 bottle system & you could grow a hundren lbs to one based on price per gallon .

 

[ttystikk]

Do you have a link to sugar doing something to chloramines? I googled and didn't see anything.

I wonder if this is just a matter of the sugar helping the microbes recover from the chloramine?

I wonder if anyone's done a test to see what soil microbe count looks like before and after watering with tap water. The amount of chlorine/chloramine used isn't high. I believe they only use enough to keep the water from sliming inside the pipes. It's basically a sterile enviornment anyway. I'd think the sanitizing capacity would be exhausted in the first inch of soil.

This is correct, and the amount of sterilant added to a given municipal water supply is carefully calibrated to match the bacterial load of the water itself, leaving as little excess as possible.

 

[panhead]

The only reason I posted here was that it just seems like another trash AN thread, getting old.

For me exposing snake oil companies never gets old if i can get 1 person to rethink their position before they believe the seudo science thrown at them , for me & you a $100 bill isnt shit but to many its a fuk ton of money .

I also belong to a high end audio site where i warn buyers about companies like Nordost who use junk science to sell $20,000 speaker wires to people thinking the more you spend the better things get .

As a business owner i take offense at predatory businesses .

 

[AUSCraig]

Why? because Big Mike has programmed you with his relentless, inaccurate and aggressive advertising to make you think all other products are inferior when, actualy is AN product that are inferior by quite a lot, its just packaged in a dazzling cartoon to catch the 'weak' minded my friend why think and learn for yourself when you have fat Mike to do that for you ...hows the "KUSHY KUSH" lately eh?

DUDE . I couldn't give a shit about Mike. I got the stuff by researching and I never knew of the guy that you are obviously obsessed with .
He means nothing to me. His product works. /

Rest up mate you have another day of big mike in your head tomorrow.

Big Mike.





BIG MIKE






BIG MIKE


etc etc

 

[chuck estevez]

DUDE . I couldn't give a shit about Mike. I got the stuff by researching and I never knew of the guy that you are obviously obsessed with .
He means nothing to me. His product works. /

Rest up mate you have another day of big mike in your head tomorrow.

Big Mike.





BIG MIKE






BIG MIKE


etc etc

apparently, you do!!

 

[budman111]

DUDE . I couldn't give a shit about Mike. I got the stuff by researching and I never knew of the guy that you are obviously obsessed with .
He means nothing to me. His product works. /

Rest up mate you have another day of big mike in your head tomorrow.

Big Mike.





BIG MIKE






BIG MIKE


etc etc

You sound like he gave you a really worse blowjob than your boyfriend gives you, dont like me talking against your ladyboy huh lol

In reality the "NEW MEMBER" really is really one of Fat Mike's many profiles here on RIU folks!!!

Funny how almost EVERY post by this complete and utter fucktard is Advanced Nutrients orientated

https://www.rollitup.org/members/auscraig.896249/

Welcome NEW MEMBER!!!, you wont last long for sure!!!

 

[WeedFreak78]

It wont outperform GH 3 part series of nutes .

Everybody who buys hydro shop nutes really should stop by a farm supply store & look at the liquid nutes farmers use , same shit as AN's 6 bottle system & you could grow a hundren lbs to one based on price per gallon .

Ive been meaning to look for the thread about making nutes from bulk. Right now, shop bought nutes are nothing more than convenient. and while i watch cost, the breakdown over a grow is still cheaper then buying my meds...

 

[GroErr]

For me exposing snake oil companies never gets old if i can get 1 person to rethink their position before they believe the seudo science thrown at them , for me & you a $100 bill isnt shit but to many its a fuk ton of money .

I also belong to a high end audio site where i warn buyers about companies like Nordost who use junk science to sell $20,000 speaker wires to people thinking the more you spend the better things get .

As a business owner i take offense at predatory businesses .

I'll give you that, AN is the epitome of snake oil marketing hype. I'm in technology and accustomed to filtering out marketing hype

I'll likely re-visit my nutes at some point but they're working and I've been concentrating on other areas with bigger impact on my grows. Lighting, medium, containers (size, technology like fabric/air pots), training methods have been my focus in the last year and have made a tremendous impact in production. The key to fine tuning is to minimize variables. Once I lock down other variables I can try additional things like nutes and gage their impact better. Cheers.

 

[nomofatum]

No way to argue with the person AN targets anyway. They target stupid sober people and people who are high. Basically like marketing to a child, say you are the best over and over, be high energy, and use bright colorful cartoons on the products. One thing you don't have to worry about is your target audience going, WTF I'm not a stupid child, stop brain washing me, instead its more mumumumu AN is the best, slobber drips.

 

[az2000]

the amount of sterilant added to a given municipal water supply is carefully calibrated to match the bacterial load of the water itself, leaving as little excess as possible.

This reminds me of something a former special ops guy told me. He said they received training involving a jar of mayonnaise. Supposed to bury it (uncapped I suppose), let it turn rancid, then toss it into a municipal water supply. As you said, water supplies contain only enough disinfectant for the normal (minimal) bacterial load they're exposed to within a closed system. When overloaded unexpectedly it exhausts the disinfectant, and the remaining bacteria proceeds to make people sick. (He was telling me this to illustrate how many of our systems work simply because we play by the rules. Apparently there's a lot of rules that, if broken, can have disrupting consequences. The "Monkey Wrench" style of warfare.).

Using that philosophy, it seems like we could spit in our water, let it set for a day and that would exhaust the dinsinfectant. Or, add sugar as you said, promoting bacterial growth which would exhaust the disinfectant.

 

[panhead]

You guys think snake oil is bad in growing check out how bad it is in hi fi & home theater systems for people with money to burn , if i used their power cords,speaker wires & interconnects it would add $ 100,000 or more to the cost of my system , take a second & read how they convince buyers their $5,000 power cord will make a stereo sound better than a quality built $50 power cord .

http://nordost.com/assets/main-images/home/Leif-Power.jpg

 

[AUSCraig]

You sound like he gave you a really worse blowjob than your boyfriend gives you, dont like me talking against your ladyboy huh lol

In reality the "NEW MEMBER" really is really one of Fat Mike's many profiles here on RIU folks!!!

Funny how almost EVERY post by this complete and utter fucktard is Advanced Nutrients orientated

https://www.rollitup.org/members/auscraig.896249/

Welcome NEW MEMBER!!!, you wont last long for sure!!!

Now you're obsessed with both Mike and myself.

Enjoy following me

 

[budman111]

Now you're obsessed with both Mike and myself.

Enjoy following me

But you are you!