heckler73
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That is an interesting perspective. Are you implying drugs are a Giffen good? That's what I'm reading, and at first I thought "no". However, you may be on to something there.
This Is Why US Healthcare Sucks
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really?..doctors and PAC's have become salesman these days..they have retreats and golf weekends and sports outings oh! just a sec in the conference room gotta get those tips and tricks to force my patients paying exorbitant fees (how to persuade or "close" the patient), so pharm can live to trade another day!
What kind of costs were associated with your practice that most of us don't realize exist?
Insurance, etc...
right on! same with weed..it's because of pharm. god forbid someone should be okay with a few tokes at night when i could take ambien, benzo's?..who's to pay for the research? why would i want something non-addictive that i can tailor to my needs when i can become addicted, go to rehab and need to take MORE drugs to get off?
it's such a win-win for pharm.
see4
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if you have 1000 boxes, selling for $10 each, and nobody is buying them, what do you do? you lower the price.That is an interesting perspective. Are you implying drugs are a Giffen good? That's what I'm reading, and at first I thought "no". However, you may be on to something there.
if you have a cholesterol drug that is selling for $1000 a month, and 10,000 people are currently using it, then 90% of the 10,000 people begin a healthy diet and exercise regimen, and now 5,000 people come off the cholesterol drug, the pharm companies will lower their price in an effort to attract more consumers. OR they will jack up the price on the remaining 5,000 consumers until they can no longer afford it.
well, it's supply and demand..pretty basic.That is an interesting perspective. Are you implying drugs are a Giffen good? That's what I'm reading, and at first I thought "no". However, you may be on to something there.
or the insurance company's who are in collusion with them..won't pay for; suddenly is a formulatory not on anyone's list..or huge co-pay i've seen it both ways.
Geronimo420
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fast food + no exercise = expensive pills + short life
you know i agree..when i was still at kushy fortune 500, expense account and i ended up with some high blood pressure and my cholesterol was high..nurse practioner was insistent i take..told her "no way"..not putting that shit in my body..bought an ellipitical (gym model) put in my living room..she said this cannot be controlled by weight..next time i saw her..i was 20lbs lighter..reran the blood..clean as a whistle and my hypertension that would "never go away without meds" was suddenly gone!..hasn't been back since..i eat right and exercise..that's all i did..don't let them tell you can't do it..remember they're sales people now.
AlecTheGardener
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There are few things that give me a warm and fuzzy like a simple 'thanks.' After breaking a few ribs to do so, even bigger warm and fuzzy.
Service docs are not allowed to do A LOT of things that civilian doctors are, they are limited by a specific code of conduct and their branches regulations. I have never seen a pharmaceutical rep in any of my treatment centers, they don't have authorization to come on post. Service docs are not allowed to be paid by outside sources, cannot get paid for research, the level of separation is pretty damn high. Additionally as commissioned officers they are constantly under the scrutiny of another person above them, reviews are conducted often for adherence. The military medical world is much more sedate when it comes to direct corporate corruption, AMEDD is slow to adapt and slow to adopt new treatments. Efficiency of treatment is their goal, multiply the force, don't waste resources. We were pretty partitioned off from the craziness of all that pharmacheutical nonsense. The wining and dining goes on at the politician level as far as contracts go, people with stars on their chest are the ones at the golf/lunch meeting.
heckler73
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Okay...now you're looking at it from both sides. The former implies it is a Giffen good (demand down, price down).
The latter is orthodox supply & demand. I think you are onto something more profound with the Giffen good idea...
Not quite that basic.
Rrog
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Great Flics!
it should be against the law for pharm to give doctors kickback, period..they get cash and trips.
you are concerned for your health and more than likely at a weak moment for which they prey upon you.
there used to be a day when the doc would say "no don't take that, too expensive..this will do the job nicely".
you are concerned for your health and more than likely at a weak moment for which they prey upon you.
there used to be a day when the doc would say "no don't take that, too expensive..this will do the job nicely".