Midwest Weedist
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I've given it a considerable amount of thought, yeah. I'm still waiting for their price to drop more though, too pricey for me.
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greatbranch
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I think you might fight heat quite a bit. I also think your containers might be a little too big to put two in there. Square footage wise, I'm not that far off from you (32"x32"x5'), and I run 1 plant in a five gallon bucket. I also use one 160watt LED panel. (edit: In THAT tent, I have one the same size where I use a 150w HPS, and two 135W UFOs)That doesn't even equate to HALF of your light. You are going to have a crazy amount of light and heat, I suspect. Your ventilation had better be up to par to even try it.
I'd stay away from anything leaning sativa, or you will compound your problem with height, though they would enjoy the heat more.
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Yeah I know what you mean the name brand ones are very expensive but I have found this company called oceanrevive on amazon and their lights look pretty decent and they are super reasonable that's what I'm gonna go with here shortly
Midwest Weedist
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The heat worries me as well. I plan to run a 190cfm fan to push air through an air cooled hood and out of the tent, essentially in one side and blasted out the other so no heat pools in the tent. I have a secondary fan with carbon filter hooked up as well.the The ballast is also dimmable to up to 50% so I only plan to use the full 600 watts at the end of flowering if I have a full tent. If my fan is too small I can always upgrade to a larger one.
You mean too small for two plants? Ive thought this too. But I'm unsure because I've successfully pulled .8g per watt with only 150 watts of hps and 6 ladies crammed into 4, 3 gallon containers. Two of which had two ladies in them.
greatbranch
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Root space and light footprint drives all.....5 plants or 1 plant will give you the same with the other things being equal if you veg to the same space. With 30 gallons of soil space and 600 watts, you're going to out grow that tent pretty easily, and it could be a mess, but would CERTAINLY be a waste of medium, nutrients, and the like. For the space, one well trained plant in a 15 gallon pot would be plenty! With the rectangular footprint and for ease of movement, I MIGHT use two 5 gallon buckets, but don't forget about being able to access the middle. You may want to rig separate screens if you use more than one plant. I don't know what your access situation is like. I am also not an organic grower, and I use hempy buckets, so maybe someone with more soil experience will chime in. That's just A LOT of soil for a 4'x2' area. It's good that you have an adjustable ballast and a cooled hood - it might save you. The one pot thing was just because I know that the air pots aren't cheap, and you may not want to buy 2 smaller ones. Not having enough root space and light won't be a problem for sure!
Midwest Weedist
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The reason I use a massive amount of soil is because I'm a notill rols grower, which in that style the more soil mass the better the microherd, thus a healthier plant. I've actually been pondering on the multiple screen idea for a few reasons. One being the obvious difference in growth between Phenotypes and obviously strains. The other reason I was considering multiple screens is so that I could attempt to use more of the natural curve of the light coming from my hood. With multiple screens I could adjust for each plants need (I run multiple strains for my many medicinal needs) as well as being adjustable in the sense of being able to tilt it to match the curve of light on the edge of the footprint. I've also talked to another notill organic guy who actually uses two layers of screens with his leggy ladies to good success.Root space and light footprint drives all.....5 plants or 1 plant will give you the same with the other things being equal if you veg to the same space. With 30 gallons of soil space and 600 watts, you're going to out grow that tent pretty easily, and it could be a mess, but would CERTAINLY be a waste of medium, nutrients, and the like. For the space, one well trained plant in a 15 gallon pot would be plenty! With the rectangular footprint and for ease of movement, I MIGHT use two 5 gallon buckets, but don't forget about being able to access the middle. You may want to rig separate screens if you use more than one plant. I don't know what your access situation is like. I am also not an organic grower, and I use hempy buckets, so maybe someone with more soil experience will chime in. That's just A LOT of soil for a 4'x2' area. It's good that you have an adjustable ballast and a cooled hood - it might save you. The one pot thing was just because I know that the air pots aren't cheap, and you may not want to buy 2 smaller ones. Not having enough root space and light won't be a problem for sure!
Access is a bit of a non issue with notill setups, for me at least, because there's no flood tables, flushing, moving planters, etc. I also already have a number of smaller air planters, which I plan to toss one or two in my tent to fill with mint, aloe vera, other herbs/spices, etc. I'm not just a cannabis grower, I grow everything from house plants, to fruits and vegetables, all the way to other entheogens.. So my house has a lot of plants in general in it with soil and stuff everywhere lol the gf hates it as much as she loves it lol
The one thing I'm not concerned about is running out of space. I have this knack for successfully cramming more plants in an area than I should. I remember when I first started I had a 1.5 ft x 1.5ft closet with 5 plants in it, including a 5 foot Panama Red xD
I play with my ladies every day for hours so training them to the extreme is almost second nature. I don't think I've let a lady grow unmanhandled ever.
greatbranch
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Be sure to post photos and show how it goes.
onemansmokeshow
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greatbranch
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Looks nice, Clink! Very healthy plant there!4 weeks done @ 12/12, about 3 weeks and a half since first pistils.
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Clink78
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Thanks!
Kind Sir
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I have two areas to grow.
- one is 8ft deep 10 ft wild and 8 feet tall
- the other is a closet 2ft deep 10ft wide and 8ft tall. (1 for veg and 1 for flowering as I want to do autos in veg room and move photos to flower when necessary you kno what I mean?)
Would SCRoG be the right move for my setup?
Its my first real grow but I think I can handle it.
My question is, would SCRoG be a good tek for my setup?
- one is 8ft deep 10 ft wild and 8 feet tall
- the other is a closet 2ft deep 10ft wide and 8ft tall. (1 for veg and 1 for flowering as I want to do autos in veg room and move photos to flower when necessary you kno what I mean?)
Would SCRoG be the right move for my setup?
Its my first real grow but I think I can handle it.
My question is, would SCRoG be a good tek for my setup?
onemansmokeshow
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Was talking of setting something like this up with my pal. We have one area at the moment and had to veg and flower in the same area. We are buying two tents to veg and flower separate. We started the scrog 2-3 weeks before flower so switching tents wouldn't be an option for us. We came up with the idea of individual screens for each plant allowing us the mobility to switch tents for next time. We had also talked about doing autos alongside our vegging plants once we have the 2 areas. Sounds like it will work out for you. We have much less space than you and our plans are very similar
Kind Sir
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Cool dude Id like to watch urs do you have a grow journal going? What tent r u getting is it legit? What seeds did you get ?
onemansmokeshow
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No journal going but have posted a couple pics in this thread 1 or 2 pages back. Not sure if the tent is "legit" but it is fairly cheap and better than what we have now. Have a lemon kush from Feminized seeds, a liberty haze from DNA genetics or Barney's I forget and a white diesel from Barney's. Also another reason for the individual screens next time - different genetics. Here is a pic from this morning - 7 days into flower
Liberty had a few problems and didn't fill out as much as we wanted(right side) but the lemon and diesel are boomin.
Gquebed
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4 weeks done @ 12/12, about 3 weeks and a half since first pistils.
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Those are some very pistilly lady parts there. Well done.!
How long did you veg those?
Gquebed
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So 27 days in. The pic of the medium girls is far behind in bud/trich production. She is under an LED that I had blinded from HID cast-off light to see how she would do just with LED. Even the runt is producing more than her. I can't fault the light though... since I found that LED perform better at higher ambient temps (80+) and I've been keeping it down to around 75-78 for the HID girls.
The runt though... holy shit... she has been under and LED too, but has always had some HID light mixed in and she is cranking our the flowers like crazy....
The runt though... holy shit... she has been under and LED too, but has always had some HID light mixed in and she is cranking our the flowers like crazy....
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Clink78
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40 days, a bit longer than I usually veg due to the scrog.
I like this strain! Really easy to grow, likes to be fed, showed hairs in 5 days, doesn't stink up the house, didn't stretch like crazy, in all a perfect girl for a small indoor grow
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I have had pretty decent results just using sog and using a combination of LED and HID. time and space is a key factor, so keeping them small and growing fast is important.