OffTopic: I hear Mr. Nice is dying

greywind

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That sucks! But I agree with the comment about taking RSO/concentrated form of cannabis to attempt to defeat the cancer. I hadn't heard that Tommy Chong had taken the pills in suppository form, but whatever works.

My mom (not a cannabis user) freed herself of stage 2 pancreatic cancer this last year using a 90 gram dose of RSO in raw form. One gram squeezed from the syringe each day. Diagnosed in January 2014, first and last treatment of chemo in March, first dose of RSO in April, and a clean bill of health (cancerless) in September of last year. IT WORKS!!! And for anyone who may ever face cancer, this form of medicine must always be available.
 

TonightYou

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Causatiom doesn't equal correlation. Nonetheless cannabis does seem to have proven anti-cancer properties. Now would I forgo modern treatments if I had cancer and depend on cannabis alone? Hell no.
 

King Arthur

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Causatiom doesn't equal correlation. Nonetheless cannabis does seem to have proven anti-cancer properties. Now would I forgo modern treatments if I had cancer and depend on cannabis alone? Hell no.
Modern treatments? You mean radiation blasting bro? No disrespect to you at all I just don't see myself going down the radiation in my veins treatment. I think I would rather die than live with the after effects of a bad chemo day.
 

TonightYou

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Modern treatments? You mean radiation blasting bro? No disrespect to you at all I just don't see myself going down the radiation in my veins treatment. I think I would rather die than live with the after effects of a bad chemo day.
No disrespect to you either. I worked in a hospital, I've seen the good and the bad parts of radiation. It's a very good tool for now, but I have a feeling in the future it will be looked at as crude. I've seen it work first hand.

I've also seen it not work and not make sense. I lost an uncle last year who was stage 4 into cancer. The cancer had metastasized and was at stage 4. There was no reason to subject him to chemo. He had smoked up till the day he died into his mid 70's. Fell one day and broke a hip, and that's when he learned he had cancer. Died relatively painless compared to other smokers I've seen first hand, plus he was lucid. The chemo was pointless and not worth the resources or suffering.
 

King Arthur

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No disrespect to you either. I worked in a hospital, I've seen the good and the bad parts of radiation. It's a very good tool for now, but I have a feeling in the future it will be looked at as crude. I've seen it work first hand.

I've also seen it not work and not make sense. I lost an uncle last year who was stage 4 into cancer. The cancer had metastasized and was at stage 4. There was no reason to subject him to chemo. He had smoked up till the day he died into his mid 70's. Fell one day and broke a hip, and that's when he learned he had cancer. Died relatively painless compared to other smokers I've seen first hand, plus he was lucid. The chemo was pointless and not worth the resources or suffering.
Death is sad all around... there is no doubt about it. One day they will be able to regrow organs or something for us.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Causatiom doesn't equal correlation. Nonetheless cannabis does seem to have proven anti-cancer properties. Now would I forgo modern treatments if I had cancer and depend on cannabis alone? Hell no.
You can put living cancer cells into a petri dish with cannabinoids and watch the mechanisms they use to kill them. Also a few hundred confirming animal studies and even a couple human early studies. It's a bit more than 'seem' at this point. It's just a matter of figuring out which tumors respond to what and how, if at all (pretty rare a treatment can claim 100% efficacy).
 

Brobeans

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Stage 2 pancreatic cancer is rarely defeated with chemo, so I'm gonna guess that 'both' is the best answer.
Lmao these "marijuana cured someone's cancer!" Claims never cease to amuse me. The same folks tend to be the ones that say pharma companies have a secret cure for cancer hidden with the Rothschild NWO illuminati blah blah lol

Don't get me wrong, marijuana is great for cancer patients to relieve certain symptoms, but curing cancer? That's absolutely ridiculous
 

Cowboy Kahlil

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Yeah, generally, I'd think Stage 2 pancreatic has low odds of survival so chemo + RSO causing full remission definitely sounds excellent. I know the sample size is small but I'm unaware of any downside to including RSO.
 

Cowboy Kahlil

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I'm not in the pot-as-panacea crowd, but I do believe it has halted certain cancers, warranting added research.
For example, I'm not sure there's any evidence of it curing lung cancer, but it does seem to have some benefit with some brain cancers.
 

Brobeans

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You can put living cancer cells into a petri dish with cannabinoids and watch the mechanisms they use to kill them. Also a few hundred confirming animal studies and even a couple human early studies. It's a bit more than 'seem' at this point. It's just a matter of figuring out which tumors respond to what and how, if at all (pretty rare a treatment can claim 100% efficacy).
You do realize what happens when a cell tissue sample is isolated, right? It dies from lack of oxygen 100% of the time LOL. You can mix cancerous cell tissue on a Petri dish with urine and they'll die too. Does that mean piss cures cancer? Hmmmmm
 

TonightYou

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You can put living cancer cells into a petri dish with cannabinoids and watch the mechanisms they use to kill them. Also a few hundred confirming animal studies and even a couple human early studies. It's a bit more than 'seem' at this point. It's just a matter of figuring out which tumors respond to what and how, if at all (pretty rare a treatment can claim 100% efficacy).
I've read the studies and there is some interesting research in the anti cancer properties of cannabis. But it's limited in its effectiveness and certainly needs further delivery development. The body isn't a petri dish unfortunately and cancer take different forms.
 

st0wandgrow

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Lmao these "marijuana cured someone's cancer!" Claims never cease to amuse me. The same folks tend to be the ones that say pharma companies have a secret cure for cancer hidden with the Rothschild NWO illuminati blah blah lol

Don't get me wrong, marijuana is great for cancer patients to relieve certain symptoms, but curing cancer? That's absolutely ridiculous

Are you a doctor? Do you have some degree, or hold some profession that qualifies you to scoff at the idea?

We're born with cannabinoid receptors throughout our bodies. Being a seldom researched schedule 1 drug we don't really know how all of its compounds interact with us. I do know for certain that cannabis eliminates seizures in dravets patients and eliminates symptoms for ulcerative cholitis. I see it first hand with my patients. I'm sure there were people scoffing at that idea 20 years ago too.

Apparently you're smarter than dr Sanjay Gupta and these researchers



.
 

SeedHo

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You do realize what happens when a cell tissue sample is isolated, right? It dies from lack of oxygen 100% of the time LOL. You can mix cancerous cell tissue on a Petri dish with urine and they'll die too. Does that mean piss cures cancer? Hmmmmm
it`lll die on its own because it needs a host, such as a piece of tissue. do you think that the scientist would be that clueless as to what they are doing. come on man be realist.
 

Brobeans

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Are you a doctor? Do you have some degree, or hold some profession that qualifies you to scoff at the idea?

We're born with cannabinoid receptors throughout our bodies. Being a seldom researched schedule 1 drug we don't really know how all of its compounds interact with us. I do know for certain that cannabis eliminates seizures in dravets patients and eliminates symptoms for ulcerative cholitis. I see it first hand with my patients. I'm sure there were people scoffing at that idea 20 years ago too.

Apparently you're smarter than dr Sanjay Gupta and these researchers



.
I will be after my dissertation defense.

Also what you're saying is completely different from what others are saying. you're saying symptoms are being alleviated with the use of marijuana. I agree with that. Others are saying that it cures cancer.

Please tell me you didn't link a reference to Sanjay Gupta. Man thats like getting your information from Dr. Oz lol
 

OGEvilgenius

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I will be after my dissertation defense.

Also what you're saying is completely different from what others are saying. you're saying symptoms are being alleviated with the use of marijuana. I agree with that. Others are saying that it cures cancer.

Please tell me you didn't link a reference to Sanjay Gupta. Man thats like getting your information from Dr. Oz lol
You've clearly done absolutely no research and have formed a really strong opinion. That's about all I can say. Enjoy your close minded life.
 

Brobeans

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it`lll die on its own because it needs a host, such as a piece of tissue. do you think that the scientist would be that clueless as to what they are doing. come on man be realist.
It needs a host? You're describing a parasite ;)

I go to conferences and present all the time and I've seen many bold claims. None of it is peer reviewed until it's submitted to be published in a journal. I never see their papers in any relevant journals. The point is: 1. researchers will say anything for funding and 2. take everything that you read related to science with a grain of salt unless in a peer reviewed journal ;)
 
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