Spots on my leafs

Im getting small dry spots on my leafs. They slowly start when new leafs come in. Starts almost like white dots.The bottom of the leaf is black and the spots on top of the leaf are near the blades and more of a yellow in later stage or light green. Need help
 

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schuylaar

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Im getting small dry spots on my leafs. They slowly start when new leafs come in. Starts almost like white dots.The bottom of the leaf is black and the spots on top of the leaf are near the blades and more of a yellow in later stage or light green. Need help
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EvlMunkee

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if you have black spots on the underside it might be thrips. they make scratchy marks on the leaves that rob it of the chlorophyll. hard to see them because they move so fast.
 

fearnoevil

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If your temps and light distance are in range, how's your humidity? Also where are you located (no details, just region/state)? I live in a pretty cold area, upper midwest, and never seem to have any problems with pests in the winter, so unless you're in a warmer area I'd say no, doesn't look like bugs to me.

If your humidity is a bit high, it could be the same problem that I've been having with leaf fungus, which I've been battling for a few months now. It actually killed off my previous grow, 30 seedlings succumbed to this, and now I've been using anti-fungal sprays and probiotics as well as keeping the humidity below 40% rH. Here's some pics:

In this you can see some of the advanced stages where the edges turn yellow and then become necrotic as the fungus does its worst damage (eventually the whole leaf will turn yellow/brown and die).
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Here you can see a slightly different look - these spots started out as small dots and then spread, but the combination of feeding probiotics and keeping the humidity low can stop it from spreading. But it's just waiting and if I stop the probiotics or allow the humidity to get to high, they'll get worse.
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In this pic you really need to zoom in to see some of the small specks, (and no they are not bugs, just looks like it, lol) but they're all over this leaf. Again if I keep things within range this stops spreading. The main problem is during feedings because I'm running Hempy buckets, a DTW system, the humidity can spike up and I can see the difference the next day.
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Another example, it does seem to like to start at the edges sometimes, and in the examples where there appears to be leaves that look chewed on, that's just because I've accidentally broken off the dead material inspecting the leaf. I know some are going to chime in about how it looks like this deficiency or that, but this is appearing only on certain leaves, old and new, randomly throughout the grow, and from my past xp, I'm certain that it's nothing to do with any deficiencies as I have my nutrient spectrum fairly well dialed in for some time now.
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I discovered a great anti-fungal spray, it's call Serenade, you can find it on Amazon, it's organic and contains Bacillus Subtilis, which has done wonders to control this stuff (way better than my xp with copper based sprays). There's good science behind how this stuff attacks fungal infections AND boosts your plants immune system. I've also been feeding heavily with double doses of GH Subculture B and M. The Sub B actually contains B. Subtilis as well which is great to know, and of course the Sub M has beneficial mycorrhizal organisms that also help keep your plants healthy.

Finally had to dish out a couple hundred $$ to get a good dehumidifier because I needed to get the rH under control and fast, but I could probably use an even bigger one imo cuz like I said it still can't keep it completely under control at feeding time. But keeping the lower canopy clean and clear and using plenty of ventilation also helps, and if you have fungus gnats you'll need to get those little buggers under control too (I use Gnatrol for this). Also cutting off damaged parts of leaves and removing from the grow room asap is a good practice cuz these are vectors for spreading more fungal spores. Hope this info helps ;?D
 
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fearnoevil

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Found a few more leaves today. Interestingly there is one particular plant that seems more susceptible than others yet there's no apparent reason (not like it's a runt or sickly, other than the fungus picking on it :finger:). While most of the leaves seem only lightly infected, this time I found a couple that were really bad, one big fan leaf was nearly dead, curling up like a claw, and this had to have happened in just the past day or so cuz I've been inspecting every day (could have missed it on one pass but as thoroughly as I've looked I still think it moves fast when conditions are right).

Course I fed heavily yesterday, ran about 15% to waste to refresh the rez's and then sprayed with Gnatrol that evening (probably should have waited:confused:) but this caused the humidity to spike up in the upper 50's, maybe more last night as the dehumidifier was full and shut off just from running overnight. It's a never ending battle seems like, trying to stay ahead of this shit, just hoping I can stave it off for another 3-4 weeks, but it also sucks to think I may have to deal with this disease from now on :cuss:

Here's some pieces I pulled from different leave (I've been removing only the infected parts if the rest of a leaf looks healthy, just to minimize the damage).
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Worst one so far, pretty much what most of the leaves were looking like in my first encounter with this in a crop from last year. Fortunately it was very near the end of the cycle so while it did some damage I was able to finish them, but I there was an impact on the potency.
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Close up of the leaf plague, fucking evil:cuss::finger::x
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rob333

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Im getting small dry spots on my leafs. They slowly start when new leafs come in. Starts almost like white dots.The bottom of the leaf is black and the spots on top of the leaf are near the blades and more of a yellow in later stage or light green. Need help
the white dots and brown marks are A from ph and nute flux B old growth or u mite have a little bit of spider mite but by the looks i would say no as the whole plant would be fucked up in a nice way lol
 

rob333

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Im getting small dry spots on my leafs. They slowly start when new leafs come in. Starts almost like white dots.The bottom of the leaf is black and the spots on top of the leaf are near the blades and more of a yellow in later stage or light green. Need help
also i need to no the stage nutes lights temps ppm and ph please to get this right dont take my opion as an aswer as its just a stab till i get the info
 

rob333

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Im getting small dry spots on my leafs. They slowly start when new leafs come in. Starts almost like white dots.The bottom of the leaf is black and the spots on top of the leaf are near the blades and more of a yellow in later stage or light green. Need help
and also if u can pic of the whole plant not just 1 leaf ;)
 

schuylaar

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This little chart right here has saved my ass and my ladies more then once. Blow it up laminate it put it on the wall in your grow room.
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:clap:

it's amazing how you can "up" your grow with just a few simple adjustments: ph and ppm's

it's so easy and it took me 3 years to really learn the importance of something so simple:wall:

blonde female here is all i can say:wink:
 
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