Clone only strains

[gitarre10000]

Diablo OG. I got it from progressive options in LA, so not sure on history of it. The clones were ugly as shit when I got them, tiny and gnarled and showed "dud" type spindly growth. After a couple rounds of starting new mothers and taking large healthy clones it looks like Ive brought it back.
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Looks pretty sweet now

 

[gitarre10000]

What's the best way to keep the genetics of a female mother that I don't have room to keep running?
I have a male isolation chamber with feed tubes and tube for collidial silver to force nanners. If I put 2 clones in and just spray 1 with silver , then I should get S1 beans from the silver srayed clone and IBLs from the non sprayed clone , correct?
Which would keep better genetics? Or is there a better way (freeze pollen)?

 

[TheHermit]

Are they two of the same clone? If so, seeds on both plants would be considered s1. If the clones are different strains, then the seeds on the second plant would be a f1 feminized hybrid. S1 would be the way to go to capture the most genetics of the mother. I would start spraying with cs a week or two before putting them in flower. Not all plants will reverse using cs.

 

[gitarre10000]

Are they two of the same clone? If so, seeds on both plants would be considered s1. If the clones are different strains, then the seeds on the second plant would be a f1 feminized hybrid. S1 would be the way to go to capture the most genetics of the mother. I would start spraying with cs a week or two before putting them in flower. Not all plants will reverse using cs.

Same cut , both. So I lose male genetics by doing this , but how close will beans be to mother? Will I have to pop 5 or 100 to find mother again?
Thanks

 

[TheHermit]

Same cut , both. So I lose male genetics by doing this , but how close will beans be to mother? Will I have to pop 5 or 100 to find mother again?
Thanks

You should get plants that are pretty close, unless the mother is unstable. If you use cs, you should get all females. Most feminized seeds from seedbanks are s1's.

 

[gitarre10000]

I thought they were f1s

 

[althor]

I thought they were f1s

Male crossed with a Female for the first time produces F1 seeds.
Female crossed with itself is called S(self)1.

 

[gitarre10000]

Male crossed with a Female for the first time produces F1 seeds.
Female crossed with itself is called S(self)1.

Then what's IBL ?

 

[Dr.D81]

Then what's IBL ?

I thought they were f1s

S1 is a 1st generation selfed seed
F1 is a first generation cross of two p1 parents
Ibl is taking that f1 and crossing a male and female generation after generation
Bx is taking that f1 cross and crossing a male back to the original mom.
It sounds like you need to do some studying

 

[gitarre10000]

S1 is a 1st generation selfed seed
F1 is a first generation cross of two p1 parents
Ibl is taking that f1 and crossing a male and female generation after generation
Bx is taking that f1 cross and crossing a male back to the original mom.
It sounds like you need to do some studying

Thanks , so what's my best bet to make beans from 2 fem sibs?

 

[Dr.D81]

Thanks , so what's my best bet to make beans from 2 fem sibs?

It depends what are you trying you trying to do? you are trying to get a clone so you can make s1 seed from it. Is that your purpose? There is a lot of great breeding information out there if you put the time in to it but this is not where you will learn to breed.

 

[akhiymjames]

Thanks , so what's my best bet to make beans from 2 fem sibs?

If you don't want males then S1 is way to go if you wants males then you need to select a male to breed with take a male from that cross that resembles the mom the most and hen hit the original clone mom with the dad from the initial cross that would be your first BX and keep doing that till she gets cubed. Takes a lot of good selection tho to get it cubed.

 

[Dr.D81]

If you don't want males then S1 is way to go if you wants males then you need to select a male to breed with take a male from that cross that resembles the mom the most and hen hit the original clone mom with the dad from the initial cross that would be your first BX and keep doing that till she gets cubed. Takes a lot of good selection tho to get it cubed.

Cubing is not a solid breeding practice AJ, and few breeders still do this anymore. With every bx you cut your chances of representing the mother by half.

 

[TheHermit]

Cubing is not a solid breeding practice AJ, and few breeders still do this anymore. With every bx you cut your chances of representing the mother by half.

I am pretty sure C99 was the result of several generations of backcrossing. Wouldn't the male pick up a lot of the mother's genetics through several generations?

 

[shishkaboy]

Cubing is not a solid breeding practice AJ, and few breeders still do this anymore. With every bx you cut your chances of representing the mother by half.

Few breeders actually breed. Cubing may not be a definite way of reproducing a female in seed form, but we have some proof that it can work. I posted a thread on here a very long time ago documenting the whole cubing process of c99. Its an amazing read.
Oh yeah clone only, (as far as I know Im the only one with a female right now)
Black Rose Sativa X B.O.G. Sour Bubble= Black Sour Bubble.

 

[mdjenks]

Man I love it!!!! That color is insane one that. I know that smoke good. Top off everything with it

Lol....yeah it is potent for sure. I pressed all of it and I have about 25 pressed pellets from several runs of several strains.

You also get a lot of accidental strains like GG#4, Golden Goat, etc. Like I posted before my buddy getting a new cross of green crack x goji OG when one of the GOG's hermied and was pollinated by one of the GC's but the seeds were only on the very bottom buds. All plants were fems so I would imagine the seeds are fems as well. I have a few of the beans and I am going to pop some and see what I get, not sure what to name it if and when I get a strong pheno.

 

[mdjenks]

Lol....yeah it is potent for sure. I pressed all of it and I have about 25 pressed pellets from several runs of several strains.

You also get a lot of accidental strains like GG#4, Golden Goat, etc. Like I posted before my buddy getting a new cross of green crack x goji OG when one of the GOG's hermied and was pollinated by one of the GC's but the seeds were only on the very bottom buds. All plants were fems so I would imagine the seeds are fems as well. I have a few of the beans and I am going to pop some and see what I get, not sure what to name it if and when I get a strong pheno.

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Few breeders actually breed. Cubing may not be a definite way of reproducing a female in seed form, but we have some proof that it can work. I posted a thread on here a very long time ago documenting the whole cubing process of c99. Its an amazing read.
Oh yeah clone only, (as far as I know Im the only one with a female right now)
Black Rose Sativa X B.O.G. Sour Bubble= Black Sour Bubble.

The pic looks a lot like SickMeds Green Crack S1 purple pheno.

 

[gitarre10000]

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Few breeders actually breed. Cubing may not be a definite way of reproducing a female in seed form, but we have some proof that it can work. I posted a thread on here a very long time ago documenting the whole cubing process of c99. Its an amazing read.
Oh yeah clone only, (as far as I know Im the only one with a female right now)
Black Rose Sativa X B.O.G. Sour Bubble= Black Sour Bubble.

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Few breeders actually breed. Cubing may not be a definite way of reproducing a female in seed form, but we have some proof that it can work. I posted a thread on here a very long time ago documenting the whole cubing process of c99. Its an amazing read.
Oh yeah clone only, (as far as I know Im the only one with a female right now)
Black Rose Sativa X B.O.G. Sour Bubble= Black Sour Bubble.

That's black sour bubble in pic?
Mama wants , lol

 

[shishkaboy]

That's black sour bubble in pic?
Mama wants , lol

Yes BSB. Come get.

 

[mdjenks]

This is the first cab I ever built, I sold it a long time ago.

Another pic of DHN's Purple Kush:

A top pic of the GC:

My kief press: