The forbidden TRUTH

[tyler.durden]

Bullshit, you're a pussy lol

Hey now, watch the ad hominems I'll come play with you later tonight, turn your ego off for a while and you won't miss me so much...

 

[tyler.durden]

Why can't I quote the prophets and scripture, isn't that along the lines of argument from incredulity.

Of course you can quote scripture, I simply stated that it was my opinion that it makes you sound less credible. It is good to see you looking to apply the correct fallacy for things that are unclear, that is a great was to become familiar with them...

Very good response on Truth. Ego death is possible by recognizing the illusion of the false self, you identify with the Thinker in your mind and absolutely believe that this is who you are, with absolute conviction you are the one who is thinking, but if you could snap out of the illusion of time and "realize" that all that is exists right now, if you could just focus your Attention on the Space in the Present Moment, then your thinking would come to a stand still and behold, you still exist, so if you are the Thinker then who are you when your thinking stops, the illusion is revealed and falls away, you now recognize your true Self as pure unwavering Awareness, the Light.

Let's examine some of your terminology -

Ego death

False self

Thinker

illusion of time

True Self

Light


Would you mind inserting the definition of these next to the terms above? They aren’t in the common vernacular, and we can’t effectively have a discussion without defining what you mean. So far, in your second paragraph above you are back to making assertions without any support or evidence. You seem to favor the idea that a mind is broken into certain sections – The Thinker, True Self, False Self, etc.. There is no evidence for such things. One’s thinking does not stop or come to a standstill, no matter how one’s focuses their attention. All parts of the mind and psyche combine to make up who we are, one part doesn’t ‘start here’ or ‘stop there’. I’m willing to view your definitions and support for your ideas, but as of now there is none…

Like you say you have had to face disillusionments and have had to let go of ideas you favored; I am not suppressing the shadow as a Jungian would believe, rather I have faced the illusion of the ego so many times that it can no longer trick me into identifying with it and has lost its strength in my Heart and Mind. Now with the ability to stop the mind at will I can clearly see objective reality, there is no separation between I and the cosmos, between I and you, for all Eternity We are One, a paradox.

Why capitalize common words? It's just more Nevaeh shit. This paragraph is simply more assertions with no support, and I don't believe you. The ego is a reality, and you demonstrate it regularly. Please begin to support your assertions with links to credible/peer reviewed data. This is getting a little boring...

 

[New Age United]

Of course you can quote scripture, I simply stated that it was my opinion that it makes you sound less credible. It is good to see you looking to apply the correct fallacy for things that are unclear, that is a great was to become familiar with them...


Let's examine some of your terminology -

Ego death

False self

Thinker

illusion of time

True Self

Light


Would you mind inserting the definition of these next to the terms above? They aren’t in the common vernacular, and we can’t effectively have a discussion without defining what you mean. So far, in your second paragraph above you are back to making assertions without any support or evidence. You seem to favor the idea that a mind is broken into certain sections – The Thinker, True Self, False Self, etc.. There is no evidence for such things. One’s thinking does not stop or come to a standstill, no matter how one’s focuses their attention. All parts of the mind and psyche combine to make up who we are, one part doesn’t ‘start here’ or ‘stop there’. I’m willing to view your definitions and support for your ideas, but as of now there is none…


Why capitalize common words? It's just more Nevaeh shit. This paragraph is simply more assertions with no support, and I don't believe you. The ego is a reality, and you demonstrate it regularly. Please begin to support your assertions with links to credible/peer reviewed data. This is getting a little boring...

First off, can you tell me how to properly quote and end quote lol

Why do you feel that quoting them makes me less credible, the prophets are perhaps the most influential people in human history and their written word is what made them so influential. Have you ever read the Torah the New Testament, or the Quran? There is a lot of garbage in there written by others and this has a negative impact on the word of the prophets, but a perceptive reader can still decipher the wisdom of their word.

I can not possibly prove to you that I can stop thinking, but I can prove to you that you can stop thinking. I am offering all the support that I can, by trying to make you witness directly within your self the evidence. Sorry that I can't use peer reviewed data to prove my theories, this is all new material, like the video says there is no coherent philosophy of the new age movement, perhaps that is my purpose in trying to learn philosophy, so that I can bring intuitive insights to a rational understanding.

If you say that light travels faster than sound and I argue the opposite you are correct and I am wrong, the simple observation that lightning proceeds thunder will prove this, but what if there is no lighting, we do not have access to the technology that would record their speeds, then you could show me peer reviewed data to prove your point, but what if the data does not yet exist, then in order to prove your point to me we will have to wait for lightning to strike, that is what I am waiting for, for lightning to strike and for you to directly observe the evidence of any one of my theories, maybe then it will strike again on another point, and then another, and a clear understanding of my theories may evolve in your mind and you will attain enlightenment, for lack of a better word.

False self- the Thinker, that little voice inside your head that never shuts up, this is who the vast majority of people believe they are, the one who is thinking.

True self- Awareness, the unwavering Light, that which allows your thoughts to exist, formless, emptiness, no thing, the Silent Witness.

Ego death- the main goal in enlightenment, to transcend suffering which is caused by the ego. I will admit that there are still remnants of my ego, so no I have not experienced it myself, as Tolle teaches you should not resist the fact that you have an Ego, that's just more Ego. What I have experienced is a great and undeniable lessening of my ego and I have faith that it will one day die, while I'm still alive, of course ego death is inevitable for everyone as we will all one day die.

Time is an illusion- Einsteins exact words. Space is eternity, the relative motion of energy is time, but past and future do not actually exist, it is all right now, the Eternal Present.

Light- To become directly aware of Space, that is to see the Light, to recognize your true formless self within by recognizing the formless Space without.

Thinker- the one who is thinking inside your head, the core of the mind, that is your Ego at work right in front of you, but you are not the Thinker you are the Witness.

The mind does have different functions and these could be considered parts, the mind is a machine for analyzing and organizing information and is only part of the whole of human consciousness.

 

[ghostdriver]

Are you able to confess your a....; Because of "Lizard Squad" you guys like being called "Lizards" right? Can you confess your a Demon Lizard?

 

[ghostdriver]

-- Not actual photo--- Anyone resemble this? LOL "Selfies" are encouraged.

 

[ghostdriver]

GOD's Spirit was in the human being JESUS CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST is GOD. But also the Son of GOD because HE comes from GOD. But not how we have mixed DNA Sons. Marry was just a virgin whom HE blessed by using her body to deliver HIS flesh. Sorry for messing that up in the first post.
1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:14King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[ghostdriver]

it's like 911 but in France Here comes the "New World Order" gather your loved ones and pray to JESUS CHRIST the LORD.

-- Stop watching at 5:40 to avoid swears please and ranting

Stupid Angels gone retarded, and their Lizard Children... Can't you complete any false flags anymore? Do you enjoy getting caught so you can watch "Alex Jones" acting?

 

[tyler.durden]

GD, you HAVE to be trolling. I can't imagine anyone being a deluded as you are making yourself out to be and still dress themselves, much less hold a job and pay bills. Knowing that YT videos can be faked and even contain intentionally false information, how do you go about choosing the credible videos from the false ones? I'd just like to know your method. Thanks!

 

[ghostdriver]

Got removed from that user wonder why? hahahahhaha -- Stop watching at 5:40 to avoid swears please and ranting

 

[tyler.durden]

Hey, GD. Knowing that YT videos can be faked and even contain intentionally false information, how do you go about choosing the credible videos from the false ones? I'd just like to know your method. Thanks!

 

[ghostdriver]

The missing Scripture mentioned in "Jude" from THE HOLY BIBLE. Recently found "Dead Sea Scrolls"

 

[ghostdriver]

Don't watch that "Ex-Hezbollah Iranian Muslim Saw Jesus and Jesus Said Who He Was - Afshin Javid" - He is a snake Or John Ramirez, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyer, or any Woman preacher.. --Timothy Chapter 2)) Don't complain you can't Preach to men...
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
.--- Revelation 21 the reward is for Men and Women

 

[tyler.durden]

Don't watch that "Ex-Hezbollah Iranian Muslim Saw Jesus and Jesus Said Who He Was - Afshin Javid" - He is a snake Or John Ramirez, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyer, or any Woman preacher.. --Timothy Chapter 2)) Don't complain you can't Preach to men... 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.--- Revelation 9 the reward is for Men and Women

So, GD, you've shown us that your dogma and agenda bashes gays and now women. I expect racism will be next? The more you post, the more you repel people from your hateful message, and retarded, bronze-age god. A thousand more like you, and they may wipe out your stupid religion entirely. Keep it up...

 

[ghostdriver]

Does no such thing this is GOD's Law, HE is RIGHTEOUS and HOLY. What's bashing about having Men teach Men about GOD? The Father the Mother, these two are different. In Heaven it's different. Matthew - 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. There is Procreation in Heaven, in The Book Of Enoch it mentions the Angels Children, no not you Nephilim reading. Ones that Begot them didn't fall, nor did they. Racism? Do you believe only "white people" are Christians?

Don't fall for their lies Women be strong and steadfast next one of the next signs will be a Solar Eclipse on 3/20

 

[THCbreeder]

First off, can you tell me how to properly quote and end quote lol

Why do you feel that quoting them makes me less credible, the prophets are perhaps the most influential people in human history and their written word is what made them so influential. Have you ever read the Torah the New Testament, or the Quran? There is a lot of garbage in there written by others and this has a negative impact on the word of the prophets, but a perceptive reader can still decipher the wisdom of their word.

I can not possibly prove to you that I can stop thinking, but I can prove to you that you can stop thinking. I am offering all the support that I can, by trying to make you witness directly within your self the evidence. Sorry that I can't use peer reviewed data to prove my theories, this is all new material, like the video says there is no coherent philosophy of the new age movement, perhaps that is my purpose in trying to learn philosophy, so that I can bring intuitive insights to a rational understanding.

If you say that light travels faster than sound and I argue the opposite you are correct and I am wrong, the simple observation that lightning proceeds thunder will prove this, but what if there is no lighting, we do not have access to the technology that would record their speeds, then you could show me peer reviewed data to prove your point, but what if the data does not yet exist, then in order to prove your point to me we will have to wait for lightning to strike, that is what I am waiting for, for lightning to strike and for you to directly observe the evidence of any one of my theories, maybe then it will strike again on another point, and then another, and a clear understanding of my theories may evolve in your mind and you will attain enlightenment, for lack of a better word.

False self- the Thinker, that little voice inside your head that never shuts up, this is who the vast majority of people believe they are, the one who is thinking.

True self- Awareness, the unwavering Light, that which allows your thoughts to exist, formless, emptiness, no thing, the Silent Witness.

Ego death- the main goal in enlightenment, to transcend suffering which is caused by the ego. I will admit that there are still remnants of my ego, so no I have not experienced it myself, as Tolle teaches you should not resist the fact that you have an Ego, that's just more Ego. What I have experienced is a great and undeniable lessening of my ego and I have faith that it will one day die, while I'm still alive, of course ego death is inevitable for everyone as we will all one day die.

Time is an illusion- Einsteins exact words. Space is eternity, the relative motion of energy is time, but past and future do not actually exist, it is all right now, the Eternal Present.

Light- To become directly aware of Space, that is to see the Light, to recognize your true formless self within by recognizing the formless Space without.

Thinker- the one who is thinking inside your head, the core of the mind, that is your Ego at work right in front of you, but you are not the Thinker you are the Witness.

The mind does have different functions and these could be considered parts, the mind is a machine for analyzing and organizing information and is only part of the whole of human consciousness.

I'm the first one to say believe in what you want ! My opinion reading through this is basically saying become a zombie to a book in short words . Every human is unique the way we think, act , live our lives to whichever degree we want . If everyone was enlightened like you say and believe the same thing , what kinda world would we live in . All brainwashed to the same degree controlled by the same thing everyone had their place in society. I just don't think you need a god to act the way you've changed. If you could do it with reading a book I'm sure you could do it without one as well .Seems to me it's just an excuse .

 

[THCbreeder]

GOD's Spirit was in the human being JESUS CHRIST. JESUS CHRIST is GOD. But also the Son of GOD because HE comes from GOD. But not how we have mixed DNA Sons. Marry was just a virgin whom HE blessed by using her body to deliver HIS flesh. Sorry for messing that up in the first post.
1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:14King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I have a question GD, where does and society record Jesus beyond what's in the bible ? Good luck . Secondly , why didn't the son of god write the bible ? Why was it written decades after the crucifixion . ? Just questions ! I'm skeptical because there's so much B.S in the bible . I'm just wondering if you've read the Old Testament ? I can't believe how people say it's okay to believe in a murderer .! What example does it set when someone kills someone or a lot of people , and the renounces themselves as saved and full of life and god ? If god came to you and said kill your family in the name of Jesus would you do it ? . I meant if he literally came to you . Again believe what you want I'm not bashing I'm just skeptical since reading the Old Testamenr !

 

[ghostdriver]

lol of course I read "The Old Testament" I read all of THE HOLY BIBLE. So first question.... Record of JESUS CHRIST the LORD, okay well GOD has always been. HE is the beginning and the END ALPHA and OMEGA. The Earth can't of always existed because it's a planet. Not OMNIPOTENT HOLY GOD JESUS CHRIST.
Second question.. The SON OF GOD did write THE HOLY BIBLE. JESUS CHRIST is GOD.
1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:14King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
What you said about THE HOLY BIBLE is blasphemy, breaking the third Commandment very serious.
Which Chapter and Verse are you referring to mentioning killing? Would it be referring to the punishment of Sin given to Israel given to them by GOD?

Like this?
3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:
5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people. Leviticus Chapter 20

Molech is a Demon who people to this day sacrifice their children to by burning them alive on a altar. I'm sure most of you have seen the "Alex Jones Bohemian Grove" video where they do this. Every year they being "Illuminati" commit these acts. Because it angers the LORD and HE sends people to HELL for doing such things. They really like you going to Hell... It's there purpose here.. Like programs... In the video it suggest it's a "Mock Sacrifice" and screaming came from speakers not the closed casket. I just believe they had the person gagged or something to prevent them from screaming so it can be uploaded on utube. Don't trust Alex Jones he isn't Human... This way you being the viewer also witness it and become part of their ritual... Evil little Devils... "Hide their eyes" meaning Look away, to see and do nothing... Many have seen that video and done nothing... Anything that GOD asks would be HOLY and TRUE HE is the CREATOR HE is OMNIPOTENT. If it doesn't make sense to me then I lack wisdom and understanding. HE is WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING. 14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength. - Proverbs 8

Who will refuse the LORD?


11 There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the Lord, a wicked counsellor. - Nahum

That's who ^^ Trust the LORD and do as HE commands...

 

[THCbreeder]

lol of course I read "The Old Testament" I read all of THE HOLY BIBLE. So first question.... Record of JESUS CHRIST the LORD, okay well GOD has always been. HE is the beginning and the END ALPHA and OMEGA. The Earth can't of always existed because it's a planet. Not OMNIPOTENT HOLY GOD JESUS CHRIST.
Second question.. The SON OF GOD did write THE HOLY BIBLE. JESUS CHRIST is GOD.
1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 1:14King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
What you said about THE HOLY BIBLE is blasphemy, breaking the third Commandment very serious.
Which Chapter and Verse are you referring to mentioning killing? Would it be referring to the punishment of Sin given to Israel given to them by GOD?

Like this?
3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:
5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people. Leviticus Chapter 20

Molech is a Demon who people to this day sacrifice their children to by burning them alive on a altar. I'm sure most of you have seen the "Alex Jones Bohemian Grove" video where they do this. Every year they being "Illuminati" commit these acts. Because it angers the LORD and HE sends people to HELL for doing such things. They really like you going to Hell... It's there purpose here.. Like programs... In the video it suggest it's a "Mock Sacrifice" and screaming came from speakers not the closed casket. I just believe they had the person gagged or something to prevent them from screaming so it can be uploaded on utube. Don't trust Alex Jones he isn't Human... This way you being the viewer also witness it and become part of their ritual... Evil little Devils... "Hide their eyes" meaning Look away, to see and do nothing... Many have seen that video and done nothing... Anything that GOD asks would be HOLY and TRUE HE is the CREATOR HE is OMNIPOTENT. If it doesn't make sense to me then I lack wisdom and understanding. HE is WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING. 14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength. - Proverbs 8

Who will refuse the LORD?


11 There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the Lord, a wicked counsellor. - Nahum

That's who ^^ Trust the LORD and do as HE commands...

how the bible says the world is only 8-10 thousand or so years old if you count from Adam and EVE to Christ . It's all good . I'm here to question not to bash so I'll make that clear again . And if you read god murders innocent lives everywhere in those days for what not believing ? Why is god responsible for everything that's good in life and the devil is responsible for everything bad .? Does the devil have more power . I think so cause he's winning the war on sinning and on religion . Your god must not be so mighty after all .

 

[New Age United]

I'm the first one to say believe in what you want ! My opinion reading through this is basically saying become a zombie to a book in short words . Every human is unique the way we think, act , live our lives to whichever degree we want . If everyone was enlightened like you say and believe the same thing , what kinda world would we live in . All brainwashed to the same degree controlled by the same thing everyone had their place in society. I just don't think you need a god to act the way you've changed. If you could do it with reading a book I'm sure you could do it without one as well .Seems to me it's just an excuse .

Enlightenment is not about beliefs it is about letting go of belief and surrendering to what is ultimately true. To have the ability to stop the conscious mind means you can transcend all of the brainwash and garbage that has been poured into your mind and heart and attain a clear and practical perspective of both subjective and objective reality, "You will Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free " JC

Yes we are all unique and that diversity is a good thing, we do not have to believe the same things, but if you believe that jumping in front of a locomotive is safe you could lose your life whether you believe in the risk or not. I have helped many many people with my word, and I will continue to teach enlightenment till my dying day, if you knew that you could free someone from suffering with just your word, wouldn't you want to spread that word as much as possible, just so that by chance someone who needs it may find it, I don't do this because I want to persuade people's minds to think like me, I do it out of the purest conscience, because I know it can help people, the prophets saved my life, by showing me the Light of Paradise, and I know I can do the same, many people have seen the light by my word.

"Behold this child has been appointed for the fall and rise of many, and a sword will pierce even your own soul, so that the thoughts from many hearts may be revealed"TNT

I will take my word to the cross, to armaggeddon if I have to, I am fearless and desireless, my life is completely effortless, I have surrendered my will to God.

Come and dine with me in Paradise, that's all I'm saying.

 

[tyler.durden]

Enlightenment is not about beliefs it is about letting go of belief and surrendering to what is ultimately true. To have the ability to stop the conscious mind means you can transcend all of the brainwash and garbage that has been poured into your mind and heart and attain a clear and practical perspective of both subjective and objective reality, "You will Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free " JC

When did this happen for you? When you came to this forum and up until a couple weeks ago, you had many beliefs that did not correspond to objective reality, and did not stand up to logic, scientific knowledge or scrutiny. You came to teach, but seemed to end up learning instead...

Yes we are all unique and that diversity is a good thing, we do not have to believe the same things, but if you believe that jumping in front of a locomotive is safe you could lose your life whether you believe in the risk or not. I have helped many many people with my word, and I will continue to teach enlightenment till my dying day, if you knew that you could free someone from suffering with just your word, wouldn't you want to spread that word as much as possible, just so that by chance someone who needs it may find it, I don't do this because I want to persuade people's minds to think like me, I do it out of the purest conscience, because I know it can help people, the prophets saved my life, by showing me the Light of Paradise, and I know I can do the same, many people have seen the light by my word.

How did you help people when what you were teaching was erroneous? Your belief system was full of contradictions, and your knowledge of science was poor. How could that help people and in which ways?

"Behold this child has been appointed for the fall and rise of many, and a sword will pierce even your own soul, so that the thoughts from many hearts may be revealed"TNT

I will take my word to the cross, to armaggeddon if I have to, I am fearless and desireless, my life is completely effortless, I have surrendered my will to God.

How would you know a god exists, much less what that deity would want of you?

Here's a good example of your contradictions and muddled thinking process -

You want to persuade people to think like you, and you are desireless. If you want something you are not desireless. It seems the contradictions are still embedded in your thought process...

Come and dine with me in Paradise, that's all I'm saying.

I don't think you have found paradise with a faulty belief system, I think you'll have a difficult time convincing any intelligent people with what you're selling...