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[PSUAGRO.]

Not impressed with any BML grows I've seen.

That may have more to do with the grower(s) than the light............honestly can't think of how the new BML spydr 1000 won't run hot.

 

[captainmorgan]

That may have more to do with the grower(s) than the light............honestly can't think of how the new BML spydr 1000 won't run hot.

Passive cooling and heat usually reduces efficiency.

 

[JimmyIndica]

@JimmyIndica
The heliospectra is the most interesting imho, the AT is probably most desirable based on the results of a certain member.

The BS/Illumitex are either underpowered or get hot, going off of past reviews, but used known diodes, which is good.
CLW uses unknown bins that are Cree?
The lumigrow hasn't changed in almost ten years
The black dog and kind ............
The Heliospectra is the most un-affordable, but it does some things and they don't seem shy about telling what's inside.....
AT Nichia,Meanwell.....

That Heliospectra can get now for 2 grand. cheaper than the bml and illumitex and AT600. Canopy coverage equal though? I doubt it!

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Passive cooling and heat usually reduces efficiency.

And longevity.............IDK why they doubled up the bars/wattage on the same "chassis"? get your oscillating fans ready!lol

That Heliospectra can get now for 2 grand. cheaper than the bml and illumitex and AT600. Canopy coverage equal though? I doubt it!

For the RX or LX?? to very different beasts imo

 

[captainmorgan]

And longevity

And of course that but at the pace of efficiency advancement and decreases in LED prices,who would use it long enough to wear it out.


Heliospectra,what can I say about all the pretty colors they use except it's probably better suited to a closet grow like Hans.

 

[Greengenes707]

Funny you guys bring up bml...

I haven't got to watch it yet...internet here sucks. This is the only video uploaded...and no updates as of yet...so...

 

[JimmyIndica]

And longevity.............IDK why they doubled up the bars/wattage on the same "chassis"? get your oscillating fans ready!lol



For the RX or LX?? to very different beasts imo

I believe it was the LX for 1999. LX is 630 and RX 315 Same chassis and software capabilities?

 

[Heavy Consumer]

That Heliospectra can get now for 2 grand. cheaper than the bml and illumitex and AT600. Canopy coverage equal though? I doubt it!

I think it was Greengenes who posted a discount code for the AT 600 the other day which was worth 20% off = $2000.

 

[captainmorgan]

Funny you guys bring up bml...

I haven't got to watch it yet...internet here sucks. This is the only video uploaded...and no updates as of yet...so...

I noticed the grow style suited the BML with short plants. Lets see some penetration numbers and a comparison with 5,6 or 7 foot tall plants.

 

[Positivity]

nice big area....but i've seen a few grows with DE that were way impressive. Somethings wrong with that side of the grow...maybe the lights are too high..

Bmls do look nice lined up like that. But, for the price of one you could build the same thing with cobs for a fraction of the price.

 

[JimmyIndica]

I think it was Greengenes who posted a discount code for the AT 600 the other day which was worth 20% off = $2000.

That is a good deal for that!

 

[JimmyIndica]

Seen a lot of intra canopy bars too.. So they knew that too for the case study. There was probably 2 case studies the first without, 2nd with intra canopy bars.

 

[captainmorgan]

Bullshit don't sleep on indy

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I just woke up,anything happen.

 

[JimmyIndica]

Yeah I would like to see the same grow with the spydrs without all the side and inner bars!

 

[JimmyIndica]

Can You say 1st repeat superbowl champs in 10 years? I remember all those bad bad years . Felt like we would never get to a superbowl and now have chance to win 2 in row! Feels good!

 

[JimmyIndica]

I thought colts where gonna put up aleast fight? Hard to win in Foxboro this time of year!

 

[Socalrob]

If your new to LED and need a light, ask Tom Brady what he used to light up the colts- 45 to 7!!! Go PATS all the way!.

Sorry guys, couldn't resist one more

 

[captainmorgan]

I don't understand the comparison between DE HPS and BML,a green house light that's built for raw power,coverage and penetration up against a LED light that I doubt has serious penetration when raised to evenly cover a 4x4 area and you put them over a SOG with short plants. Seems like a rigged comparison unless you do a second grow with taller plants. I know the LED should give a product with superior quality with the broader spectrum.

 

[mc130p]

I don't understand the comparison between DE HPS and BML,a green house light that's built for raw power,coverage and penetration up against a LED light that I doubt has serious penetration when raised to evenly cover a 4x4 area and you put them over a SOG with short plants. Seems like a rigged comparison unless you do a second grow with taller plants. I know the LED should give a product with superior quality with the broader spectrum.

I agree...one should do two grows, each suited to one of the lights.

 

[PSUAGRO.]

If your new to LED and need a light, ask Tom Brady what he used to light up the colts- 45 to 7!!! Go PATS all the way!.

Sorry guys, couldn't resist one more

cheaters as usual http://sports.yahoo.com/news/deflat...-culture-since-spygate-scandal-080638511.html

still don't understand how these guys are still allowed in the league after spygate..........anyone who watched them play the eagles in the superbowl knew they had an edge===== bullshit and will never forgive