The religion of peace

ginwilly

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you dipshit, so now they would have used guns regardless? what point are you trying to make again, or are you drunk? Try keeping up with yourself bro.
I was making fun of your point, now I'm making fun that you missed it while accusing me of being drunk.

Yes, being armed and secured deters attacks, why anyone would argue it doesn't was surprising to me. Well they would have just used bombs then was your leap, own it man.
 

Hazydat620

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I was making fun of your point, now I'm making fun that you missed it while accusing me of being drunk.

Yes, being armed and secured deters attacks, why anyone would argue it doesn't was surprising to me. Well they would have just used bombs then was your leap, own it man.
Why anyone would say a few armed police officers with hand guns would deter a highly motivated terrorist group with automatic weapons is very stupid to me. Why were/are we still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan after we brought in the big guns. We had Abrams for gods sake, but still soldiers died. How can be, by your rationale that bad things don't happen when one side has guns? You are very simple minded to think a gun solves things. I laugh at you bro.
 

ginwilly

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Why anyone would say a few armed police officers with hand guns would deter a highly motivated terrorist group with automatic weapons is very stupid to me. Why were/are we still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan after we brought in the big guns. We had Abrams for gods sake, but still soldiers died. How can be, by your rationale that bad things don't happen when one side has guns? You are very simple minded to think a gun solves things. I laugh at you bro.
I really do understand your point, but this building apparently has been a target for a long time and it wasn't until security was relaxed that it was attacked. You can call that a coincidence if you'd like, I'd prefer to live in reality.

Guns do not always prevent deaths. What you are claiming is perfectly fine, just not in this particular instance. If the strong presence of security had not been there when tensions were highest it would have been attacked back then. It was never attacked when security was strongest.
 

Hazydat620

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I really do understand your point, but this building apparently has been a target for a long time and it wasn't until security was relaxed that it was attacked. You can call that a coincidence if you'd like, I'd prefer to live in reality.

Guns do not always prevent deaths. What you are claiming is perfectly fine, just not in this particular instance. If the strong presence of security had not been there when tensions were highest it would have been attacked back then. It was never attacked when security was strongest.
Had been a target for a long time...... keep poking a hornets nest and you're bound to get stung. Irresponsible freedom of speech if you ask me. If anyone is to blame it's the Newspaper. Why were the police protecting the building and the newspaper? There should have been hired security to protect them from the violence they had a hand in creating. That's like punching a bully in the face and then running to the teacher. The bully is gonna get you when the teacher isn't looking at some point.
 

ginwilly

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Had been a target for a long time...... keep poking a hornets nest and you're bound to get stung. Irresponsible freedom of speech if you ask me. If anyone is to blame it's the Newspaper. Why were the police protecting the building and the newspaper? There should have been hired security to protect them from the violence they had a hand in creating. That's like punching a bully in the face and then running to the teacher. The bully is gonna get you when the teacher isn't looking at some point.

I agree. If it happened here in the states the company would have paid for private security. I don't know how it works over there, but having the tax payers pay to protect them because of their own choices doesn't seem right.

I do find it interesting you say they should have hired private security to protect them but don't think the cops having guns would have made a difference.
 

Hazydat620

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I agree. If it happened here in the states the company would have paid for private security. I don't know how it works over there, but having the tax payers pay to protect them because of their own choices doesn't seem right.

I do find it interesting you say they should have hired private security to protect them but don't think the cops having guns would have made a difference.
Why?
I think something would have happened regardless of who was guarding that building, maybe just a different fashion.
I think there would be dead police with guns still in their holsters even if they chose to carry a weapon.
I don't think it was the polices' responsibility to protect that building.
I think it was irresponsible for the newspaper to ask the help of a force that mostly(?) goes unarmed.


But.... I will concede, why these officers signed up for this detail knowing the risks and didn't choose to carry a gun, is beyond me. Unless they were forced that detail, which in that case bad choices by supervision to expect a officer who doesn't normally carry a gun to carry one and be effective using it.
 

desert dude

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Had been a target for a long time...... keep poking a hornets nest and you're bound to get stung. Irresponsible freedom of speech if you ask me. If anyone is to blame it's the Newspaper. Why were the police protecting the building and the newspaper? There should have been hired security to protect them from the violence they had a hand in creating. That's like punching a bully in the face and then running to the teacher. The bully is gonna get you when the teacher isn't looking at some point.
Only innocuous speech is tolerated by progressives, apparently. Why does the left have such a hatred of free speech? Why the rejection of fundamental civil rights?
 

Hazydat620

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Only innocuous speech is tolerated by progressives, apparently. Why does the left have such a hatred of free speech? Why the rejection of fundamental civil rights?
Who said I was against it? I said it was irresponsible use of free speech? Who said that the french have the same bill of rights as us anyway? Why does the right believe everyone has to act in a manner according to US law?
 

ginwilly

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Who said I was against it? I said it was irresponsible use of free speech? Who said that the french have the same bill of rights as us anyway? Why does the right believe everyone has to act in a manner according to US law?
I seriously hope freedom of speech isn't just a "the right" thing.
 

Jimdamick

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Why don't I see blood and brain matter when he shoots him in the head. Looked like he got shot a few times. Where is all the blood at? he laid there for a few seconds, wouldn't there be a pool of blood by then if shot in the head? Is there gonna be training exercise that were going on during the same time?
I think you were looking for a government cover/setup? Nah.
I agree. If it happened here in the states the company would have paid for private security. I don't know how it works over there, but having the tax payers pay to protect them because of their own choices doesn't seem right.

I do find it interesting you say they should have hired private security to protect them but don't think the cops having guns would have made a difference.
The cops had guns
 

UncleBuck

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Only innocuous speech is tolerated by progressives, apparently. Why does the left have such a hatred of free speech? Why the rejection of fundamental civil rights?
why don't you want me to hang 6 foot tall posters of interracial gay sex in your neighborhood?
 

UncleBuck

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Who said I was against it? I said it was irresponsible use of free speech? Who said that the french have the same bill of rights as us anyway? Why does the right believe everyone has to act in a manner according to US law?
you're exactly right, the french do have hate speech laws and holocaust denial laws.

which is exactly why people like phillipe rushton and david duke are not allowed to celebrate their "european heritage" in europe anymore.

lullers.
 

UncleBuck

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I seriously hope freedom of speech isn't just a "the right" thing.
aren't right wingers overwhelmingly opposed to flag burning?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/23524/public-support-constitutional-amendment-flag-burning.aspx

yep, 67% of republicans want to outlaw flag burning.

weren't you right wingers whining and crying and pissing about some muslims wanting to build a mosque in NYC?

i don't have to ask, i have the quotes from you fascists railing against the first amendment on that one!

nice attempt at delusion, ginwillimena.
 

ginwilly

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Dude, you are doing it again. Nobody really cares what you think when you have to make shit up to back it up. Have enough faith in your own thoughts to let them stand on their own. You don't have to take quotes out of context, make quotes up out of thin air or edit quotes to say what you need them to say. You don't need to pm the minions to like a post or agree with you. Your own idea should stand on it's own without all that. Try it sometimes, you may find out you really are good enough and smart enough.

You need a little lesson from Stuart man.
 

UncleBuck

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Dude, you are doing it again. Nobody really cares what you think when you have to make shit up to back it up. Have enough faith in your own thoughts to let them stand on their own. You don't have to take quotes out of context, make quotes up out of thin air or edit quotes to say what you need them to say. You don't need to pm the minions to like a post or agree with you. Your own idea should stand on it's own without all that. Try it sometimes, you may find out you really are good enough and smart enough.

You need a little lesson from Stuart man.
jeez, have another fucking meltdown just because righties hate free speech and the first amendment.

less than a decade ago you anti-free speech retards were telling people not to criticize the president because we were in an unnecessary war of choice of his own making.

don't hate me for pointing out the facts.
 

ginwilly

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jeez, have another fucking meltdown just because righties hate free speech and the first amendment.

less than a decade ago you anti-free speech retards were telling people not to criticize the president because we were in an unnecessary war of choice of his own making.

don't hate me for pointing out the facts.

I picture you actually shaking your fist and spitting a little while you rant against your imaginary friend.

Your meltdowns are too boring and predictable. Have you tried taking a night off from drinking? How's the wife, maybe spend time with her instead of us? She seems nice.
 

UncleBuck

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You seriously have files with saved quotes from random people here?
That sounds dangerously like an obsessive/compulsive disorder.

Wow.



What's my folder look like?
Full of bunnies w/ pancakes on their heads I would imagine.
it's called the search function.
 

UncleBuck

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I picture you actually shaking your fist and spitting a little while you rant against your imaginary friend.

Your meltdowns are too boring and predictable. Have you tried taking a night off from drinking? How's the wife, maybe spend time with her instead of us? She seems nice.
i was actually laughing because your partisan hackery is so...laughable.
 
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