@NLXSK1
Peruse this for a moment: meet the press transcript. When I was watching I was actually laughing hard at some of his answers, that man is a cowardly rich man who hides behind other people and policies. He took series of sentences and completely fucked them into confusion:
DICK CHENEY:
Morning, Chuck. It's good to be back.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, let me start with quoting you. You said earlier this week, "Torture was something that was very carefully avoided." It implies that you have a definition of what torture is. What is it?
DICK CHENEY:
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Well, torture, to me, Chuck, is an American citizen on a cell phone making a last call to his four young daughters shortly before he burns to death in the upper levels of the Trade Center in New York City on 9/11. There's this notion that somehow there's moral equivalence between what the terrorists and what we do. And that's absolutely not true. We were very careful to stop short of torture. The Senate has seen fit to label their report torture. But we worked hard to stay short of that definition.
CHUCK TODD:
Well, what is that definition?
DICK CHENEY:
Definitions, and one that was provided by the Office of Legal Counsel, we went specifically to them because we did not want to cross that line into where we violating some international agreement that we'd signed up to. They specifically authorized and okayed, for example, exactly what we did. All of the techniques that were authorized by the president were, in effect, blessed by the Justice Department opinion that we could go forward with those without, in fact, committing torture.
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CHUCK TODD:
Let me go through some of those techniques that were used, Majid Khan, was subjected to involuntary rectal feeding and rectal hydration. It included two bottles of Ensure, later in the same day Majid Khan's lunch tray consisting of hummus, pasta, sauce, nuts and raisins was pureed and rectally infused.
DICK CHENEY:
That wasn't--
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CHUCK TODD:
Does that meet the definition of torture?
DICK CHENEY:
--that does not meet the definition of what was used in the program as--
(OVERTALK)
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CHUCK TODD:
I understand. But does that meet the definition of torture in your mind?
DICK CHENEY:
--in my mind, I've told you what meets the definition of torture. It's what 19 guys armed with airline tickets and box cutters did to 3,000 Americans on 9/11. What was done here apparently certainly was not one of the techniques that was approved. I believe it was done for medical reasons.
CHUCK TODD:
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I mean, medical community has said there is no medical--
(OVERTALK)
DICK CHENEY:
If you go and look, for example, at Jose Rodriguez book, and he was the guy running the program, he's got a very clear description of how, in fact, the program operated. With respect to that I think the agency has answered it and its response to the committee report and I--
CHUCK TODD:
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--but you acknowledge this was over and above.
DICK CHENEY:
--that was not something that was done as part of the interrogation program.
CHUCK TODD:
But you won't call it torture.
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DICK CHENEY:
It wasn't torture in terms of it wasn't part of the program.
CHUCK TODD:
Let me ask you this, we've got Riyadh al-Najjar. He had handcuffing on one or both of his wrists to an overhead bar, would not allow him to lower his arms. Twenty-two hours each day for two consecutive days in order to break his resistance. Al-Najjar was also wearing a diaper and had no access to toilet facility. Was that acknowledged? Was that part of the program that you approved?
@ginwilly
You know I dislike ANY loss of life, I have spoken against Obama and his signature assassinations before on this board.
