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nsbudca

nsbudca

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gb123 said:
For sure... and go to jail ...and die.
Happens every day... but ...it's not you... so who the fuck really cares!?!?!?!
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hahaha.. man i have to ignore you... your a fucking idiot.. i clearly care or i wouldn't even bother... soo... youre just gonna stop growing are you? wasn't an mmar... but have family who are, i get it... you think i get my weed from an lp so i don't give a fuck about the rest of you? cool, you're a good dude.
 
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Gmack420

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Buying from a lp when you claim to have access to so much other bud is good way to convince people you don't give a fuck about others. You're happy getting a cheap oz a month while the rest of us struggle with what to do to stay medicated. Just calling it as I see it.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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Gmack420 said:
Pretty hard to keep it quiet when hc knows about every legal grow op going on. Anyone who doesn't move their grow will be easy picking for cops. And with the new mandatory minimums sentences for growing anyone caught(5 or more plants) is looking at 6mo in jail
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It's not just 5 or more plants that will get you 6 months. You have to be trafficking or part of organized crime...Can anyone cite a case where someone has been given a mandatory minimum for cultivation?
Also...not on cultivation, but on mandatory minimums on weapon charges there have been a couple cases where the judges said no way and ignored the mm, the judges basically breaking the law by not enforcing it.
 
nsbudca

nsbudca

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Gmack420 said:
Buying from a lp when you claim to have access to so much other bud is good way to convince people you don't give a fuck about others. You're happy getting a cheap oz a month while the rest of us struggle with what to do to stay medicated. Just calling it as I see it.
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its about being legal, simple as that. i also didn't realize how fucked the mmpr was until i already signed up.
 
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Gmack420

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leaffan said:
It's not just 5 or more plants that will get you 6 months. You have to be trafficking or part of organized crime...Can anyone cite a case where someone has been given a mandatory minimum for cultivation?
Also...not on cultivation, but on mandatory minimums on weapon charges there have been a couple cases where the judges said no way and ignored the mm, the judges basically breaking the law by not enforcing it.
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Nope production of 6-200 is six month mandatory minimum. 9 month with aggravating factors like you say. No trafficking or taking part in oc needed to go to jail. That's the truth. And yes there are people getting convicted and sentenced to this already. Examples in every province. The crown will appeal any decision the judge makes not following those mandatory miniums. And a appeals court will decide if they are consitutinality sound. And that judges decision can be appealed as well. and so on untill it works it's way to the ad to make a final decision.
 
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CannaReview

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Gmack420 said:
Nope production of 6-200 is six month mandatory minimum. 9 month with aggravating factors like you say. No trafficking or taking part in oc needed to go to jail. That's the truth. And yes there are people getting convicted and sentenced to this already. Examples in every province. The crown will appeal any decision the judge makes not following those mandatory miniums. And a appeals court will decide if they are consitutinality sound. And that judges decision can be appealed as well. and so on untill it works it's way to the ad to make a final decision.
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I believe the way out of mandatory is if the crown doesn't state they are going for mandatory before the trial. Then the judge can give you what they want. If the crown states that they are going for mandatory they the judge is suppose to abide by it.

Also even if you have less than 6 plants but they try to get you for trafficking ie found baggies, scales etc then then can also go by the weight of the plants and fuck you over royally if there's more than 3KG of weight. So they weight the plants and the pots/dirt (the whole plant is considered cannabis weight) and you better hope it wasn't on a day you watered.
 
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Gmack420

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CannaReview said:
I believe the way out of mandatory is if the crown doesn't state they are going for mandatory before the trial. Then the judge can give you what they want. If the crown states that they are going for mandatory they the judge is suppose to abide by it.

Also even if you have less than 6 plants but they try to get you for trafficking ie found baggies, scales etc then then can also go by the weight of the plants and fuck you over royally if there's more than 3KG of weight. So they weight the plants and the pots/dirt (the whole plant is considered cannabis weight) and you better hope it wasn't on a day you watered.
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All great points. One tree can put you over the 3kg limit.
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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Gmack420 said:
Buying from a lp when you claim to have access to so much other bud is good way to convince people you don't give a fuck about others. You're happy getting a cheap oz a month while the rest of us struggle with what to do to stay medicated. Just calling it as I see it.
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Theres no reason you should be stuck with a LP unless you truly want to stay clean and tiddy with your fingers crossed. Go to a club...

oh BTW gmack, i know your new here but theres a thread on here of someone with LP documentation arrested, detained and at pre trial. Your LP/MMPR docs dont mean shit, better luck showing a cop a doctors not and tell him to look at sec56
 
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Gmack420

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bigmanc said:
Theres no reason you should be stuck with a LP unless you truly want to stay clean and tiddy with your fingers crossed. Go to a club...

oh BTW gmack, i know your new here but theres a thread on here of someone with LP documentation arrested, detained and at pre trial. Your LP/MMPR docs dont mean shit, better luck showing a cop a doctors not and tell him to look at sec56
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I wouldn't tell the cop anything. Let him do what he wants the judge at trial will dismiss the charge due to having a valid medical document. The cops will always do as they like. So just try to not get charged but if you do it's not the end of the world it's just a hassle. I read that members story about getting arrest at wonderland. Doesn't pass the smell test. It's either a made up story or we're just not getting the full story and buddy is minimizing what he actually did. I assume he was openly smoking with his buddy who didn't have a script. Hense the cops being dickheads and charging him. I don't habe a mmpr anything. My medical document says : Document for medical marihuana purposes. Filled out and signed by a licensed medical doctor. I give less then a fuck what a beat cop thinks about it.
 
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gb123

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nsbudca said:
hahaha.. man i have to ignore you... your a fucking idiot.. i clearly care or i wouldn't even bother... soo... youre just gonna stop growing are you? wasn't an mmar... but have family who are, i get it... you think i get my weed from an lp so i don't give a fuck about the rest of you? cool, you're a good dude.
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where did I say. "You did not care" ?

oh the drama :)
 
leaffan

leaffan

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Gmack420 said:
Nope production of 6-200 is six month mandatory minimum. And yes there are people getting convicted and sentenced to this already. Examples in every province....
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I cannot find a case of any small numbered grows that have been sentenced with mandatory minimum 6 months+.
Can you give me any examples? Thanks in advance.
Reason I'm asking is that a certain lawyer has been waiting for a case to constitutionally challenge the mm for small grow.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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Gmack420 said:
Nope production of 6-200 is six month mandatory minimum. 9 month with aggravating factors like you say. No trafficking or taking part in oc needed to go to jail. That's the truth. And yes there are people getting convicted and sentenced to this already. Examples in every province. The crown will appeal any decision the judge makes not following those mandatory miniums. And a appeals court will decide if they are consitutinality sound. And that judges decision can be appealed as well. and so on untill it works it's way to the ad to make a final decision.
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You are reading it wrong, there are no mandatory minimums for cultivation for personal use. This is from the government site.
Cultivation of marijuana 7 I (i) 6 mos. if there are between 6-200 plants and the production is for trafficking; (ii) 9 mos. for between 6-200 plants, the production is for trafficking and any of the following apply: (a) you use real property that belongs to a third party to commit the offence; (b) the production could endanger the security, health or safety of minors at or close to the offence location, (c) the production constitutes a potential public safety hazard in a residential area, or (d) you set or place a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to another person in or close to the offence location, or permit such a trap, device or other thing to remain or be placed in that location or area (iii) 1 yr. for between 201-500 plants; (iv) 18 months for between 201-500 plants and any of the factors (a through d, in italics, above) apply; (v) 2 yrs. for more than 500 plants, or (vi) 3 yrs. for more than 500 plants if any of the factors (a through d, in italics, above) apply
 
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gb123

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gb123 said:
They know where all the growing sick patients live. They'll just give out that info the the RCMP.
. Truth be known. The RCMP has a list. They can walk around anywhere they like online. No questions asked. May have something to do with the fact they recently stopped snooping online after the laws did not go in their favor.
I could easily see patients going to jail one after another. A couple won't be an issue. Its not you?!?!
No one would give a rats ass about drug smoking sick people..... :hump:
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http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/11/former_owner_of_grand_rapids_m.html

Like the US just did with one of it's pateints.. and they are decding now if he can even use his own medicine? :lol: WTF is wrong with this idea?
You are not allowed to take something unless we say you can. Even if it's legal to take it. When we decide. We will let you know. Sit in your CELL until then?
I keep hearing Robin Williams sayng ....... WTF? with that screwy WTF face of his. Real disturbed.
ya..its only 500 dollars...and 18 month probation. A record and all that went along with it for as long as he lives.
 
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Gmack420

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VIANARCHRIS said:
You are reading it wrong, there are no mandatory minimums for cultivation for personal use. This is from the government site.
Cultivation of marijuana 7 I (i) 6 mos. if there are between 6-200 plants and the production is for trafficking; (ii) 9 mos. for between 6-200 plants, the production is for trafficking and any of the following apply: (a) you use real property that belongs to a third party to commit the offence; (b) the production could endanger the security, health or safety of minors at or close to the offence location, (c) the production constitutes a potential public safety hazard in a residential area, or (d) you set or place a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to another person in or close to the offence location, or permit such a trap, device or other thing to remain or be placed in that location or area (iii) 1 yr. for between 201-500 plants; (iv) 18 months for between 201-500 plants and any of the factors (a through d, in italics, above) apply; (v) 2 yrs. for more than 500 plants, or (vi) 3 yrs. for more than 500 plants if any of the factors (a through d, in italics, above) apply
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Well I will admit I read it wrong.
 
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