Tilray updates products with "House Blend" shake

[itsmehigh]

Fairly accurate. Except almost everyone they serve via mail order is a real deal sick person. I also noticed you failed to adress my point regarding the prices lp's are charging. It's cool no need to answer a question we all know sthe answer to. A rose by any other name is a thieving overcharging bastard lp. Right?

For example MedPotNow, their menu has 20 strains on it right now, 75% of those are $8.-$10. How is that any different than a LP. Those aren't compassionate prices, if they can offer one strain for $5.50 ( blueberry) why not all strains? How do they justify that? Why is the blueberry cheaper than anything else? Do the other strains cost more to produce? No it's supply and demand not compassion. It's just a business, like an LP. At least with an LP you know that it was grown under GMP, quality controled and tested without the use of pesticides or fungusides. Can the dispenceries make that claim?

http://medpotnow.com/cannabis-menu/

Another example there concentrates. Which is usually made from the byproduct of the harvest (shake) It costed me $1-2 a gram to make, but they charge $35-$50 a gram. Real compassionate.

Itsme.

 

[symptum]

Symptum- some people can't accept the risks associated with not being legal. There are a lot of careers where a drug charge would force them to resign. I for one can't have my wife get charged or I'd risk my career and the only income supporting us. Drummed up charges or not, I'd have to resign and be without employment until the smoke has cleared.

Let's face it the mmpr fucking sucks and the LPs are assholes. But it's health Canada and the government who have let this happen. Patients are patients regardless of which system they fall in. My only hope is conroy and crew can force some sort of all inclusive change.

I can understand that but what about the risks of taking what is essentially a placebo to treat your condition? If you are using cannabis under the pretense that a certain strain has 23% THC, 4% CBD and an assortment of terpenes for a medical condition, let's say epilepsy and the stuff your buying from Tilray actually has 10% THC, 1% CBD and has lost most of not all the terpenes due to poor growing/handling then really, what is the point using it? It won't help your condition and you might as well be taking sugar pills because your not really getting the meds you thought you were buying. So that's where my comment stems from. If you're content using meds that definitely should not work for your condition based on the quality, then what is it that is making you a happy customer? I would think legality would come second to having medicine that actually works other wise what's the point? Maybe your not using it as medicine after all.Not saying that's definitely the case but would you continue to pop sugar pills all day if it did absolutely nothing for your pain just cause it was legal or would you find something that actually worked regardless of the law. Just my .02, feel free to disagree.

 

[symptum]

For example MedPotNow, their menu has 20 strains on it right now, 75% of those are $8.-$10. How is that any different than a LP. Those aren't compassionate prices, if they can offer one strain for $5.50 ( blueberry) why not all strains? How do they justify that? Why is the blueberry cheaper than anything else? Do the other strains cost more to produce? No it's supply and demand not compassion. It's just a business, like an LP. At least with an LP you know that it was grown under GMP, quality controled and tested without the use of pesticides or fungusides. Can the dispenceries make that claim?

http://medpotnow.com/cannabis-menu/

Another example there concentrates. Which is usually made from the byproduct of the harvest (shake) It costed me $1-2 a gram to make, but they charge $35-$50 a gram. Real compassionate.

Itsme.

At least MPN doesn't charge 8-10 a g straight up. There are discounts for 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and full oz. The meds are actually good quality too so it's not like you're throwing your money away either on useless "meds" and I use that term loosely. I have yet to see or smell anything from an L.P that is as high quality as the lowest quality stuff I've bought from MPN.

 

[bigmanc]

For example MedPotNow, their menu has 20 strains on it right now, 75% of those are $8.-$10. How is that any different than a LP. Those aren't compassionate prices, if they can offer one strain for $5.50 ( blueberry) why not all strains? How do they justify that? Why is the blueberry cheaper than anything else? Do the other strains cost more to produce? No it's supply and demand not compassion. It's just a business, like an LP. At least with an LP you know that it was grown under GMP, quality controled and tested without the use of pesticides or fungusides. Can the dispenceries make that claim?

http://medpotnow.com/cannabis-menu/

Another example there concentrates. Which is usually made from the byproduct of the harvest (shake) It costed me $1-2 a gram to make, but they charge $35-$50 a gram. Real compassionate.

Itsme.

wheres my damn book lol

 

[itsmehigh]

Well you can't grow most of your other prescription drugs either Now can we? Pot is diffrent then every other med because hc wants to hold a plant upto pharma grade rules. Out of the dozen of so lp's how many can take new patients now and fill their whole scripts now? 3 or 4? Black market value should have nothing to due with real world patient prices for meds. The black market will always be hugely inflated due to the legality of the product being sold. No tell me how lp's expect anyone to buy meds at higher then bm prices? My percs are worth over $500 a month for what cost me less then $30 with no insurance, new drugs cost so much due to the fact they cost so much to develop. The strains I want already exist and are in cultivation across the world not just canada. I don't need to fund tweed, tilray or who ever to breed anything new and charge me more for the right to due so. Oh and new drugs are only expensive till the patient expires then the generic drug co's copy the exact formula and sell for much closer to what it cost to produce. so why should I be paying $15g for quality meds when I can go elsewhere and get the equivilant drugs for 1/3 the price?

I don't agree, been to a health food store lately? You can buy just about anything to replace pharma now a days. Cannabis should be classified as a Natrual Health Product (NHP), heck I can grow poppies and make my own opiates. I can grow just about anything in a natural foods store. It's a matter of educating people to question what your doctors prescribe you, is there a natural alternative? Doctors are a business too, don't fool yourself big pharma has control.

Itsme.

 

[Gmack420]

For example MedPotNow, their menu has 20 strains on it right now, 75% of those are $8.-$10. How is that any different than a LP. Those aren't compassionate prices, if they can offer one strain for $5.50 ( blueberry) why not all strains? How do they justify that? Why is the blueberry cheaper than anything else? Do the other strains cost more to produce? No it's supply and demand not compassion. It's just a business, like an LP. At least with an LP you know that it was grown under GMP, quality controled and tested without the use of pesticides or fungusides. Can the dispenceries make that claim?

http://medpotnow.com/cannabis-menu/

Another example there concentrates. Which is usually made from the byproduct of the harvest (shake) It costed me $1-2 a gram to make, but they charge $35-$50 a gram. Real compassionate.

Itsme.

You're correct. But I can go to 10-15 diffent places to find what suits my needs and wallet. Mpn won't stop serving me if I go to another competitor next month because they have better prices. Competition for my business benefits me. Places that don't offer any deals don't get my business. Places that take to long to answer emails don't get my business. Places that choose slow shipping over xpresspost don't get my business. Places that charge to much for shipping don't get my business. I like having the choice who gets my business. I've never been shiped air instead of meds from any of the paces I've tried.

 

[itsmehigh]

wheres my damn book lol

That's fucking funny.....really did laugh out loud.......patients is a virtue, young grasshopper. Wax on, wax off.

Itsme.

 

[Gmack420]

That's fucking funny.....really did laugh out loud.......patients is a virtue, young grasshopper. Wax on, wax off.

Itsme.

You're not a bad guy we just disagree on how people should currently access their meds, and I put that difference down to how you're earning your income designing grow rooms for perspective lp's.

 

[itsmehigh]

You're correct. But I can go to 10-15 diffent places to find what suits my needs and wallet. Mpn won't stop serving me if I go to another competitor next month because they have better prices. Competition for my business benefits me. Places that don't offer any deals don't get my business. Places that take to long to answer emails don't get my business. Places that choose slow shipping over xpresspost don't get my business. Places that charge to much for shipping don't get my business. I like having the choice who gets my business. I've never been shiped air instead of meds from any of the paces I've tried.

I agree 100%, but I don't think illegal dispenceries are the answer for everybody, and I don't think LP's are either. It's a matter of personal choice. Right now our government is trying to make our choices, and that's wrong. I am an adult, and my government is trying to stop me from making my own choices. Is that the Canada you want to be apart of? Not me. We have the power to change that next year, we are all very passionate about this subject, let's really make a difference and get our fucking dictatorship government out. Vote,vote,vote.

Itsme.

 

[itsmehigh]

Fairly accurate. Except almost everyone they serve via mail order is a real deal sick person. I also noticed you failed to adress my point regarding the prices lp's are charging. It's cool no need to answer a question we all know sthe answer to. A rose by any other name is a thieving overcharging bastard lp. Right?

Ok, I seem to have an answer to everything today. LP's have huge overhead, new buildings, new equipment, very expensive labs, investors, wages, ect. Most of which dispenceries don't have, in the MMAR it costed me aprox. $.44 a gram to produce. The same place the dispenceries get their product from. So why are you paying $5-$10 a gram for something that costs $.50 to produce. My point is dispenceries are no better than LP's.

Itsme.

 

[symptum]

Well if the MMAR grower chooses to charge the dispensary BM prices do you think they would sell it at a loss?

 

[itsmehigh]

The thing is the market is flooded with MMAR cannabis, growers will take whatever they can get. The price the dispenceries charges doesn't reflect what the grower gets compensated with. The price of wholesale cannabis has dropped signicantly, but the dispenceries prices remain stable, so who is profiting? Sure not the growers. Wholesale price 5 years ago $2500+\lbs now I have seen it as low as $900-$1200, and lucky to get $1600. When your sitting on 20lbs and got bills to pay, you take what you can get, so much competition between growers, and dispenceries know that, if you don't take what they offer, another grower will be along shortly who will.

Itsme.

 

[MaryMaryMary]

honestly if you are comparing prices it seems like dispensaries (at least those charging basically LP prices) are even worse than LP's as they dont have any humongous overheads and capital costs LP's had to incur before even getting in the market, yet they are charging the same prices for MMAR weed and also MPN wants $25 for shipping, my LP will ship for free.. these dispensaries better drop their prices to less than 6 bucks/gram for primo and 2-3/bucks for the reggie

 

[Gmack420]

Defending lp's high prices by saying dispensarys charge almost as much makes no sense. Whole sale price is just that wholesale not retail. You want to deal drugs or buy large quanitys then you can get amazing prices. But you need connections to get anything safely. What is someone going to do show up in van with no connections just cash in a bag and not get robbed or worse? 1600/454= 3.52 a gram. Add on the overhead of having a brick and mortar shop and employees and the price per gram goes up from there. Always go for the hugest quality at the best price as a patient. Don't forget this thread is about $5 a gram trim that shouldn't even be sold as medicine. I get quality meds for $6 a gram or less.

 

[Big Pauly]

I love drinking a good bottle of red wine. I have a few different ones that I like, I would never want them to be poured together and blended.
Just like the buds...each has its own charm and qualities, probably lost when blended.
The biggest issue though is that the other parts of the plant ( stems and leaves ) are nowhere near the quality of the bud.

You wouldn't blend your wines but they're trying to come off as a Scotch dealer where mixed blends are sought after.

 

[Big Pauly]

I live in predominate conservative area.....and it sucks, since lots of would be other party supporter types, just don't bother to vote...I have been throwing away my vote for more than 20 years now....people please exercise your right to vote.....

People, don't waste your time voting. It's to give you the feeling/illusion that you put the asshole politician into power and therefore CAN'T complain when he fucks up. and he WILL fuck up many times over!. He has been pre selected LONG before he gets in. Do your homework, kids!

 

[Big Pauly]

I think before the MMPR you could argue that there was no reasonable accsess with PPS being the monopoly. So despencerys were the only option. But now with a dozen of options with legal providers LP's it could be harder to argue that you needed to use the black/grey market. As for as price the Judge agreed that accses to cheap meds isn't in the charter. There are many examples of other meds that are very expensive. Just my $.02

Itsme.

Just tell the cops you deal with Tilray. (they don't have any stock)They'll give you a ride downtown to the property room and sell you an elbow of top shelf shit.

 

[leaffan]

People, don't waste your time voting. It's an illusion that you put the dickhead who's coming into power. He has been pre chosen LONG before he gets in. Do your homework, kids!

Curious on your opinion...Do you think Rand Paul has been "pre chosen" in the USA? He has a real shot at being the next president. I would agree that Hilary has been groomed for awhile.

 

[Big Pauly]

Curious on your opinion...Do you think Rand Paul has been "pre chosen" in the USA? He has a real shot at being the next president. I would agree that Hilary has been groomed for awhile.

I don't want to get too deep here, but ya, every politician is 'chosen' by the 'powers that be'. A quick example would be the John Kerry taking a dive so that georgey porgey bush's brother could rig the Florida votes just a wee bit to put Kerry out by 1 or 2 votes and put bush in power

The waters run WAY deeper than that, though.

 

[leaffan]

I don't want to get too deep here, but ya, every politician is 'chosen' by the 'powers that be'. A quick example would be the John Kerry taking a dive so that georgey porgey bush's brother could rig the Florida votes just a wee bit to put Kerry out by 1 or 2 votes and put bush in power

The waters run WAY deeper than that, though.

I understand what you are saying. If you know Rand Paul, I am curious if you think he breaks the mold?
I get the feeling that this cat is different.