giving defoliation during flower a try

[InUtero]

For sake of argument, MJ is considered one of the best phytoremediator plants available. If you have a nutrient with heavy metals from a crappy vendor, would it not stand to reason that you would get exposed to these metals smoking the leaves?

Looking at the reports from Washington state, even Miracle-Grow has small amounts of concerning metals. Keep in mind too that a concentrated mixture will have higher metals because it is, after all, a concentrated mix lol. Most consumer chems are fairly clean. What I would look out for is the Big Ag mixes that utilize industrial waste.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Damn boy, you're beginning to sound like me.

Same message, better delivery.

 

[st0wandgrow]

For sake of argument, MJ is considered one of the best phytoremediator plants available. If you have a nutrient with heavy metals from a crappy vendor, would it not stand to reason that you would get exposed to these metals smoking the leaves?

Looking at the reports from Washington state, even Miracle-Grow has small amounts of concerning metals. Keep in mind too that a concentrated mixture will have higher metals because it is, after all, a concentrated mix lol. Most consumer chems are fairly clean. What I would look out for is the Big Ag mixes that utilize industrial waste.

Yep, bio solids would be the main "ingredient" that I would look to avoid.

But even then, it's not going to make your weed taste like human feces (unless the plant is genetically predisposed to taste like a turd).

 

[waterdawg]

So is it not possible for some of the elements in the food, what ever the hell it is cause I've used all the cheap ones, to stay in the plant through the water? And I really dont care about the science fyi, to busy, as are the majority of small growers. All I know is I just wont use it again lol, which is pretty much how I do everything, cant trust no one here its the fucking internet, no accountability or consequence lol. I think back to when I was a kid and we used to add food coloring to a flower and it would turn color. So Chuck nice picture but really that doesn't bring me any closer to knowing why it happened or cant. All I see is water being sucked into a plant lol. Sorry man not a science guy. Oh and it could be farts I guess, i do head to the room in the morning and let a few good ones go .

 

[waterdawg]

It only happened with one particular product so I kind of ruled out anything enviromental. I also i only used it the one time and the bud tasted like the nutrient smelled. I just think if it happened with that particular product it could happen with others but again only happened with that particular product. I dont use many lol. I have two bottles and thats mostly all I ever use.

 

[Lysemith, Lowkey]

My buddy just pulled a record off his 1000 watt. 3# and 100 grams... super crazy

 

[pk_boosted2]

This^^^^^^is exactly why it pisses me off, when pkpoosted keeps claiming GH's floraseries sucks, compared to his magical nutrient bases he loves so dearly.
Sure the floraseries is overpriced(imo, all liquid nutes are). It, as far as I know, wasn't created for
Cannabis growers. But is fully customizeable. Why would that make it worse than the ones he loves?
I don't get it.
SAME FUCKING SALTS!

I never said flora series sucked. I said just using the 3 bottles as they come without adding a flower booster or root inncoculant or pk booster doesn't give u high yields or higher quality buds. I know many ppl serious growers that love GH 3 part but that's not all they use bcuz it's not enough for maximum yield and flower quality. Please read my posts don't just skim thru n pick shit out. Yes GH 3 part is great base nutrient bcuz u can tailor it to plants needs and adjust accordingly I simply said there are complete nutrient lines that give u all the shit including canna and advanced. I just realized I'm talking to pot heads and dudes don't know how to read and put 1+2 together. Jesus Christ read whole fuckin posts before u tell ppl what I'm saying bucks that's not what I said. I did say dyna gro sucks and I stand by that once again. I used GH 3 part for many runs and it's good but it's not great and it's def not enough by itself that's my point. I was talking about complete nutrient lines not just using the 3 bottles omfg

 

[pk_boosted2]

what is trolling nice one....your fucking faking it mate to lure the adalessente

Idk what that means. But like I said before this the only forum I've ever been on and don't come onto sites like this for same reason as this bcuz everyone got something to say. U guys r all buddy buddy u wanna gang up on me tell me I'm wrong, make up lies, twist my words and tell ppl I'm trying to sell shit
And that's simply not true. But okay buddy whatever u say ur always right anyways right? Cheers

 

[pk_boosted2]

Synthetic nutrients def change taste and how flowers burn if their excess in plant material. I've seen it and tasted it and u can hear it when it burns snap crackle and pop. Shit leaves black ash instead of the nice white, light grey ash that's from the nutrients. That's why when using synthetic nutrients esp in hydroponics it's important to do a flush for at least a few days before harvesting.

I don't think it's important to flush using organics as it's all natural and doesn't build up salts from synthetic nutrients in your medium and plant. This is a fact which is why there are a million articles and products to help reduce the salt buildup in your plants to get premium smoke that cures better and taste and burns smoother. Think what u want I know this to be a fact primarily an issue I'm hydroponics not soil.

 

[bradburry]

Idk what that means. But like I said before this the only forum I've ever been on and don't come onto sites like this for same reason as this bcuz everyone got something to say. U guys r all buddy buddy u wanna gang up on me tell me I'm wrong, make up lies, twist my words and tell ppl I'm trying to sell shit
And that's simply not true. But okay buddy whatever u say ur always right anyways right? Cheers

? good luck

 

[pk_boosted2]

I do have to disagree re: taste but perhaps it only applies to hydro. I have used things that made it taste chemically if that makes sense also I haven't tried it but botanicare, I have heard, again in hydro, makes for a very nice tasting herb. Going to try it next in side by side with HG.

Botanicare flowers will taste better and smell better it's primarily organic. Unless ur using bio1 that's the point of organics quality. But reduced yields. H&g gonna give u more yield but reduced quality vice verse

 

[pk_boosted2]

Water isn't gonna do it alone that's why companies make products that are flushing solutions that break down left over nutrients in your medium so the plants aren't up taking additional nutrients during flush in turn, reducing the salt build up. Will all of the nutrient be out? Absolutely not, but it aids in reducing additional mutes from contaminating the flowers which is important when curing and the process in which bacteria and chlorophyll breaks down which gives u better tastes, smell and how good it burns. Won't be as harsh and doesn't burn that black charcoals shit like MG will. There's plenty of information to read about it and how it works.

 

[pk_boosted2]

If you guys don't think flushing is important or is unnecessary. My boys wife has a lab in Colorado that test flowers before they are put on shelves for sale. They test for salt nutrient content and obv al other essentials anyone interested u can send me a PM I will give u her Info and if u don't believe me she can explain it to you. She has a degree in biology and botany and is the head of the lab in Denver she tel u herself. As I know I'm just a salesman heard it already

 

[chuck estevez]

If you guys don't think flushing is important or is unnecessary. My boys wife has a lab in Colorado that test flowers before they are put on shelves for sale. They test for salt nutrient content and obv al other essentials anyone interested u can send me a PM I will give u her Info and if u don't believe me she can explain it to you. She has a degree in biology and botany and is the head of the lab in Denver she tel u herself. As I know I'm just a salesman heard it already

plants don't take in salts and buds don't store nutrients, learn basic botany salesman. Ain't no one from BOSTON going to teach me anything about growing weed. I'm from so cal, I have seen the best weed, I grow pretty close to it. I am only limited by genetics.

 

[chuck estevez]

Water isn't gonna do it alone that's why companies make products that are flushing solutions that break down left over nutrients in your medium so the plants aren't up taking additional nutrients during flush in turn, reducing the salt build up. Will all of the nutrient be out? Absolutely not, but it aids in reducing additional mutes from contaminating the flowers which is important when curing and the process in which bacteria and chlorophyll breaks down which gives u better tastes, smell and how good it burns. Won't be as harsh and doesn't burn that black charcoals shit like MG will. There's plenty of information to read about it and how it works.

companies make condoms too, doesn't mean you have to use them, although it is to bad your daddy didn't.

 

[pk_boosted2]

plants don't take in salts and buds don't store nutrients, learn basic botany salesman. Ain't no one from BOSTON going to teach me anything about growing weed. I'm from so cal, I have seen the best weed, I grow pretty close to it. I am only limited by genetics.

Yeah speaking of genetics if u had a different daddy u wouldnt be so stupid

 

[pk_boosted2]

Why dont you read an article and see whose really making money. There aint no markup on advanced and canna that i recommend u dont own a store so u wouldnt know. Id make more money selling BS like dyna groand MG ur just too dumb to know that. Read this article then get back to me.

http://bigbudsmag.com/see-the-hydroponics-nutrients-that-br-store-managers-em-don-t-em-recommend-for-marijuana/

You read this and get back to me

 

[pk_boosted2]

Like i tell all my customers in the business u pay for what u get. U want good results pony up and pay the price. Cheap alternatives lead to inferior results and its that simple. Theres a reason why these companies can charge top dollar bcuz they are worth it, if they werent they wouldnt be in business. People r only so stupid, results speak for themselves. Everytime a customer ive seen switch from advanced or h&g or was using canna before and went to GH or botanicare or dyna gro ALWAYS came back saying same thing. Yeah they worked, BUT im not getting same quality or yield i was before i switched. Idk why i switched i should have just stayed using X but i wanted to see if something cheaper would work, and guess what they dont!!

 

[pk_boosted2]

http://bigbudsmag.com/generic-hydroponics-aren-t-good-br-for-marijuana-plants/

Read what they say about GH and their nutrient line.. I dont care what u guys use but when im growing topmshelf medical grade flowers i want the best so i use and recommend the best. Many will agree, im a generally healthy individual leads a good clean lifestyle, gym sports excercise, healthy food. So when it comes to what inuse to grow plants with i also tke into consideration what i will be smoking, eating and providing to other people. U wanna use cheap unregulated nutrients to grow ur shit be my guest. But i wud never recommend ayone too do that. And i wont be surprised in the next few years if a few of these companies u guys like are banned from cultivating medical grade cannabis with new testing procedures bcuz of health risks. Bol

 

[pk_boosted2]

Unlike the wild west where u guys live out here on the east coast theres way more regulations for cannabis dispensaries that actually package and label their stuff that includes what nutrients they use to grow with or the company or facility who grew it who u can contact to find out. There arent many momand pop home growers providing dispensaries w bud. Its all regulsted state facilities where u need approval and certification to even become a caregiver. FYI