Da fuck?!?!

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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So I've got a plant with a couple fan leaves looking like this:




My biggest fear is broad mites, and sure enough when you do a google image search this pic pops up for broad mite damadged leaves.

Anyone ever seen this, or have any clue what it might be?
 
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HayStax

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Well if that is what your plants look like, then it's entirely possible . That picture actually belongs to Pogenetics, love how 420 mag thinks it's OK to steal something that someone else stole. According to them, tobacco virus can show similar signs of distress.
 
warble

warble

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Just opinion, you can see the broad mites with a small scope or even a magnifying glass on the bottom side of the leaves. There will be some black excrement and the white things will be eggs and the bugs are harder to see. I just wash them with a clean towel and some soapy water. two or three times in a week. I did catch them early. If it gets bad the guy at the hydro store said I could use a fogger. I'd rather do a bunch of work, rather than use some crazy chemicals. Your mileage may vary. Just opinion.
 
BigTexan

BigTexan

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i have a strain that this is only specific to, its called, "Tobacco mosaic virus", its name "mosaic" is given from that pattern the leaf gets, if you dont see broad mites then its the virus.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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It's a type of tmv and it does spread if you use the same blade with other plants when you clone. I learned that the hard way. No bad symptoms other than the appearance. I've found its okay sharing a cloner with other plants, just no blades. Treat it like aids if you're going to keep it.

 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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That's Broad mites!
They are as small as the diameter of the LEG of a white fly! So, you will not "see" them by looking through a lupe.
They attack the veins of the leaf and that gives you what you see in the pics.

The SINGLE most EFFECTIVE way to get rid of them is Forbid 4F. You will play hell trying to get them with a "contact" killer. Forbid is not technically a poison but an acid that blocks lipid fat use by the bugs internals. This makes them "dry out" and die. It works on all stages of the mites growth. Simply a light spray on the tops of the leaves is enough.
You can find this in affordable amounts on ebay.

I'll bet my whole grow it is NOT TMV or Sunn-Hemp MV!
In all my time growing, myself and others in our little "collective" have sent HUNDREDS of samples to MSU for testing and NONE have come back as positive for MV,,,PERIOD ! (they did find broad mites)

Some info on MV above has been left out. It is HIGHLY contagious and is spread by contact with the plant alone! If you touch an infected plant and touch one that's not,,,,bingo, you passed it on. It can be transmitted by bugs touching and flying to the next plant. Even buy plants touching plants as the wind stirs them.

BTW, Sunn Hemp is a BEAN and not a member of the Cannabis family.

This info is all derived from talking with Professors of agronomy from MSU (GO SPARTANS!).

I wish I had a dollar for every time I give info on TMV/Sunn-Hemp, high P in flower, Forbid, and pH in soil.

P.S. Oh yeah, MV DOES effect the yield of any infected plant that does get it! By a lot!
 
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crazydrummer15

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Dr. Who said:
That's Broad mites!
They are as small as the diameter of the LEG of a white fly! So, you will not "see" them by looking through a lupe.
They attack the veins of the leaf and that gives you what you see in the pics.

The SINGLE most EFFECTIVE way to get rid of them is Forbid 4F. You will play hell trying to get them with a "contact" killer. Forbid is not technically a poison but an acid that blocks lipid fat use by the bugs internals. This makes them "dry out" and die. It works on all stages of the mites growth. Simply a light spray on the tops of the leaves is enough.
You can find this in affordable amounts on ebay.

I'll bet my whole grow it is NOT TMV or Sunn-Hemp MV!
In all my time growing, myself and others in our little "collective" have sent HUNDREDS of samples to MSU for testing and NONE have come back as positive for MV,,,PERIOD ! (they did find broad mites)

Some info on MV above has been left out. It is HIGHLY contagious and is spread by contact with the plant alone! If you touch an infected plant and touch one that's not,,,,bingo, you passed it on. It can be transmitted by bugs touching and flying to the next plant. Even buy plants touching plants as the wind stirs them.

BTW, Sunn Hemp is a BEAN and not a member of the Cannabis family.

This info is all derived from talking with Professors of agronomy from MSU (GO SPARTANS!).

I wish I had a dollar for every time I give info on TMV/Sunn-Hemp, high P in flower, Forbid, and pH in soil.
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Dr. Who I don't even wanna think about how many times I've read your different posts saying how mite damage is NOT mosaic virus or any variation. I literally have lost count and can now completely believe you'd wager you crop on it. Ha ha Thanks for helping us all and the absolutely sounds advice. I know I've read a number of you replies and I've learned quite a bit.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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You'd be losing your whole grow on that bet. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between broad mite damage and mosaic virus. You're telling me the pic I posted is a plant with broad mites? It's had mosaic virus since a seedling and I'm on my third run with it. Must be some weak ass broad mites. Lol, get real man. And it doesn't affect the yield like you say, nor can it be transferred by touch. Bugs that feed on leaves and juices can transfer it, and so can gardening tools that were used to cut. But bottom line, it's not broad mites.


This is what broad mite damage looks like




Dr. Who said:
That's Broad mites!
They are as small as the diameter of the LEG of a white fly! So, you will not "see" them by looking through a lupe.
They attack the veins of the leaf and that gives you what you see in the pics.

The SINGLE most EFFECTIVE way to get rid of them is Forbid 4F. You will play hell trying to get them with a "contact" killer. Forbid is not technically a poison but an acid that blocks lipid fat use by the bugs internals. This makes them "dry out" and die. It works on all stages of the mites growth. Simply a light spray on the tops of the leaves is enough.
You can find this in affordable amounts on ebay.

I'll bet my whole grow it is NOT TMV or Sunn-Hemp MV!
In all my time growing, myself and others in our little "collective" have sent HUNDREDS of samples to MSU for testing and NONE have come back as positive for MV,,,PERIOD ! (they did find broad mites)

Some info on MV above has been left out. It is HIGHLY contagious and is spread by contact with the plant alone! If you touch an infected plant and touch one that's not,,,,bingo, you passed it on. It can be transmitted by bugs touching and flying to the next plant. Even buy plants touching plants as the wind stirs them.

BTW, Sunn Hemp is a BEAN and not a member of the Cannabis family.

This info is all derived from talking with Professors of agronomy from MSU (GO SPARTANS!).

I wish I had a dollar for every time I give info on TMV/Sunn-Hemp, high P in flower, Forbid, and pH in soil.

P.S. Oh yeah, MV DOES effect the yield of any infected plant that does get it! By a lot!
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BigTexan

BigTexan

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Like i said before its TMV, pretty simple, dont know why people need to make it complicated.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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No such fucking thing as TMV on cannabis ffs. I get so sick of people saying that. Its broad mites and they are pretty simple to get rid of. Clean the shit out of your grow with bleach and water(walls,floors, tools etc). Spray spinosad 2 days in a row on your plants, creaveces in grow, pots, medium, etc.Spray once a week (preventative pest maintenence). I've had every mite, even rust mites (the worst mites to have).
 
BigTexan

BigTexan

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ive put these so called "not-tmv" under a microscope there is no evidence of mite or mite damage, this is a virus, only way it spreads is taking cutting from it.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
It's a type of tmv and it does spread if you use the same blade with other plants when you clone. I learned that the hard way. No bad symptoms other than the appearance. I've found its okay sharing a cloner with other plants, just no blades. Treat it like aids if you're going to keep it.

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Those buds look awesome for having plant aids...just a cpl handfuls of broad mite stricken leaves;)
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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You don't know anything about broad mites if you think they hang out for for months and months causing no harm but discoloration. Your responses are wrong and ignorant. It's obvious you have never had broad mites, or have done much research on them or mosaic virus. I find it hard to believe that you put more than 2 minutes into your research.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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I've had broad mites, thats why I gave instructions on how to get rid of them;) The plant acts like this as well when you have broad mites. They can crinkle and taco and/or get a mozaic pattern on leaves. Research it bro ::may take more then 2 min of your time::::
 
BigTexan

BigTexan

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typical troll, ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL his plants would look like that if it were mites, one plant only? virus!! you can cut a limb off and rub it all over another girl and guess what? nothing happens.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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No they wouldnt all be infected. After a looooooooooooong time of having them they would eventually be all infected after you cross contaminated the whole grow;) Right now I have one plant with spider mites sitting next to 3 plants that arnt infected. Why do I have it sitting next to the 3? because those 3 plants, spider mites wont touch em for some reason;) Please do go on about how a mites work exactly.....
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Broad mites are nothing like spider mites other than they're both mites. They affect different parts of the plant, one makes webs and the other don't, they thrive in different conditions. Broad mites DESTROY buds in a relatively short amount of time and the damage looks nothing like mosaic virus. You sound like a real pro having a mite infested plant in your general population. Don't bother quarantining, just put it next to other ones that they don't seem to be bothering. Genius. Just about everything you've said and suggested in this thread has been completely inaccurate. I feel sympathy for everyone that you've ever tricked into following your shoddy advice with your fake experience. You should take some time off playing wannabe weed expert on the net and tend to your sick garden.
 
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