There ain't do damn voter fraud

[Glaucoma]

i can show my electric bill in nebraska and vote.

i can show my electric bill in CO and vote.

but one is a voter ID state and the other is not?

Once again you don't understand the difference between registration and voting. That's not my problem. We've been over this already. No documents are required to vote at the polls in NE.

Why would you show your electric bill in CO to vote if they don't require ID as you claim?

 

[UncleBuck]

Once again you don't understand the difference between registration and voting.

i actually do.

if i want to vote in NE, i can show my electric bill.

if i want to vote in CO, i can show my electric bill.

Why would you show your electric bill in CO and vote if they don't require ID?

if an electric bill is identification, then nebraska is a voter ID state.

your attempts at redefining words and meanings backfire so hard that i can do this all night with no effort.

 

[Glaucoma]

i actually do.

if i want to vote in NE, i can show my electric bill.

if i want to vote in CO, i can show my electric bill.




if an electric bill is identification, then nebraska is a voter ID state.

your attempts at redefining words and meanings backfire so hard that i can do this all night with no effort.

Says the guy trying to redefine what a voter ID State is. Like I've said before, you are the only person on the planet who believes the crap you are spewing right now.

And please.. reconcile this for me:

i literally just voted without showing my ID in colorado.

i could show them my electric bill, just like i did in colorado.

 

[UncleBuck]

Says the guy trying to redefine what a voter ID State is. Like I've said before, you are the only person on the planet who believes the crap you are spewing right now.

And please.. reconcile this for me:

like i said, if you're trying to redefine an electric bill as voter ID, then nebraska is a voter ID state.

 

[Glaucoma]

like i said, if you're trying to redefine an electric bill as voter ID, then nebraska is a voter ID state.

I didn't write the voter ID laws in CO. The thing about Sate laws is that they vary from State to State.

According to your Secretary of State however, an acceptable form of voter ID at the polls includes:

• A copy of a current (within the last 60 days) utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector.

http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/vote/acceptableFormsOfID.html

That means that by showing your electric bill at the polls, you in fact provided ID to vote according to CO law. Thanks for admitting lie number 3.

Take it up with them about what is considered ID or not when voting if you don't like it. I'm sure they'd love to hear your 'semantic assraping'.

 

[UncleBuck]

I didn't write the voter ID laws in CO. The thing about Sate laws is that they vary from State to State.

According to your Secretary of State however, an acceptable form of voter ID at the polls includes:

• A copy of a current (within the last 60 days) utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector.

http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/vote/acceptableFormsOfID.html

That means that by showing your electric bill at the polls, you in fact provided ID to vote according to CO law. Thanks for admitting lie number 3.

Take it up with them about what is considered ID or not when voting if you don't like it. I'm sure they'd love to hear your 'semantic assraping'.

so if colorado is a voter ID state, and i can vote just by showing my electric bill, then nebraska is a voter ID state, since i can vote just by showing my electric bill.

say, if colorado is a voter ID state, then where's the outrage like i saw over texas or wisconsin?

would you be using a different definition than the rest of the world uses?

 

[Glaucoma]

so if colorado is a voter ID state, and i can vote just by showing my electric bill, then nebraska is a voter ID state, since i can vote just by showing my electric bill.

Now we are back at this again? I guess I can do one more lap.

You do not need ID to vote in NE. No matter how many times you say otherwise, it is not true.

"Do I need a voting card or my ID in order to vote?

No, the card is for information only and does not need to be presented to election officials in order to vote. "

http://www.sos.ne.gov/elec/voter_info.html

Further, ncsl.org (you know, that lying propagandist website?) says that no documentation is required to vote in NE.

Even wikipedia has it listed as not being a voter ID State.

Are they all part of the same voter ID conspiracy?!

say, if colorado is a voter ID state, then where's the outrage like i saw over texas or wisconsin?

I dunno. But the fact remains, CO is a voter ID State.

would you be using a different definition than the rest of the world uses?

Nope. Literally you are the only person on the planet who claims that all 50 States are voter ID States. The entire Earth. Impressive.

 

[ginwilly]

If you guys had started this discussion with photo ID instead of just ID I bet it would have gone differently.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

and how dare anybody insinuate there is!

Filmmaker James O’Keefe has yet again demonstrated just how vulnerable our election system is to fraud.

A Pew Center on the States study in 2012 found that one out of eight voter registrations is inaccurate, out-of-date, or a duplicate. Some 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

So O’Keefe decided to take some of the 700,000 “inactive” voters the Voting Integrity Project says are on the rolls in North Carolina, the site of one of the nation’s most hotly contested Senate races, and see just how easy it would be to obtain a ballot in their name. Sadly, it was child’s play as his video demonstrates.

“Some twenty times, nearly a bus load, we were just a signature or two away from voting. Of course, we never signed anything, but we could have, and if we had, we could have voted and no one would have been the wiser,” is O’Keefe’s depressing conclusion.

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...strations-flawed-james-okeefe-shows-john-fund

What a weak video. A weak video for some very weak minds.

 

[Glaucoma]

If you guys had started this discussion with photo ID instead of just ID I bet it would have gone differently.

For a while in the other thread about this, I suspected that Bucky thought voter ID could only mean Photo ID.

It looks like he is falling back into that mentality.

 

[ginwilly]

For a while in the other thread about this, I suspected that Bucky thought voter ID could only mean Photo ID.

It looks like he is falling back into that mentality.

nah, he's just trying to win an argument on the internet no matter the cost. This shit is serious bidness.

Once you prove him wrong, he just changes the argument and keeps repeating things. You probably already know that, but it's so predictable, you can tell him exactly what he's going to do, then watch him do it any way.

 

[UncleBuck]

You do not need ID to vote in NE.

then why do you need to show them an electric bill or driver's license before you vote?

no documentation is required to vote in NE.

that's not true, they even have pages listing what ID you need to show in order to vote.

But the fact remains, CO is a voter ID State.

then so is nebraska. i can vote in either state with an electric bill.

Literally you are the only person on the planet who claims that all 50 States are voter ID States. The entire Earth. Impressive.

that's because i'm using your logic.

 

[Glaucoma]

then why do you need to show them an electric bill or driver's license before you vote?

Already answered

that's not true, they even have pages listing what ID you need to show in order to vote.

Already proven wrong with 3 sources, including the same one you cited.

that's because i'm using your logic.

My logic agrees with ncsl.org and the rest of the world as to what a voter ID State is, remember?

Of course you don't. That's why we have to keep running these laps over and over again.

 

[UncleBuck]

Already answered




Already proven wrong with 3 sources, including the same one you cited.

so you're telling me i don't need to show identification before voting in nebraska?

My logic agrees with ncsl.org and the rest of the world as to what a voter ID State is, remember?

then why was there no outrage about colorado and alaska like there was about texas or wisconsin?

if colorado and alaska are 'voter ID' states like wisconsin and texas, why was there no outrage at all?

if the rest of the world agrees with you, why do they not act like it in the least?

 

[Glaucoma]

so you're telling me i don't need to show identification before voting in nebraska?

Voting is not registering to vote. It's voting. NE does not require any documents when voting. Why do you keep pretending otherwise?
The link you provided even spells it out. Did you bother to read it when I posted it 3 times or when you cited it yourself?

then why was there no outrage about colorado and alaska like there was about texas or wisconsin?

if colorado and alaska are 'voter ID' states like wisconsin and texas, why was there no outrage at all?

if the rest of the world agrees with you, why do they not act like it in the least?

Gee, I dunno. Could it be because each State has varying degrees of voter ID laws and the citizens there reacted differently? Could it possibly be that CO is regarded as a non-photo ID, non-strict State and WI and TX both were photo ID, strict?*

Nahhhh. That's makes too much sense, huh?



*That propagandist website ncsl.org

 

[UncleBuck]

Voting is not registering to vote. It's voting. NE does not require any documents when voting. Why do you keep pretending otherwise?
The link you provided even spells it out. Did you bother to read it when I posted it 3 times or when you cited it yourself?

you refused to answer again.

so you're telling me i don't need to show identification before voting in nebraska?

Gee, I dunno. Could it be because each State has varying degrees of voter ID laws and the citizens there reacted differently? Could it possibly be that CO is regarded as a non-photo ID, non-strict State and WI and TX both were photo ID, strict?*

Nahhhh. That's makes too much sense, huh?



*That propagandist website ncsl.org

i think i see the problem.

you're trying to abuse what people are referring to as 'voter ID' states.

that's why you have to make excuses for why the rest of the world does not agree with your special little definitions.

because if we were to go by your definitions, then all 50 states have voter ID.

you are just being a dishonest little weasel, like usual. how surprising.

 

[Glaucoma]

you refused to answer again.

so you're telling me i don't need to show identification before voting in nebraska?





i think i see the problem.

you're trying to abuse what people are referring to as 'voter ID' states.

that's why you have to make excuses for why the rest of the world does not agree with your special little definitions.

because if we were to go by your definitions, then all 50 states have voter ID.

you are just being a dishonest little weasel, like usual. how surprising.

You've got to be kidding me. WTF is going on in your head? How many times do I have to say that ncsl.org is my source? Where do they say that all 50 States have voter ID laws in force?

Remind me, who was caught lying 3 times in this thread alone? And you say I'm being a dishonest little weasel? lol! Are you going back into stupid coward mode again?

 

[UncleBuck]

You've got to be kidding me. WTF is going on in your head? How many times do I have to say that ncsl.org is my source? Where do they say that all 50 States have voter ID laws in force?

Remind me, who was caught lying 3 times in this thread alone? And you say I'm being a dishonest little weasel? lol! Are you going back into stupid coward mode again?

i don't see how asking you a question about your contradictory premises is a lie, but are you ever gonna tell me how i can vote in alabama without an ID and no one to vouch for me?

 

[Glaucoma]

i don't see how asking you a question about your contradictory premises is a lie, but are you ever gonna tell me how i can vote in alabama without an ID and no one to vouch for me?

Let's do a liar recap to counter your weasel dance. I didn't include that one.

Lie number 1: Your claim that I said NE was a voter ID State
Lie number 2: Your claim that I said NE was just like CO and AK
Lie number 3: Your claim that you didn't show ID to vote

And no, I'm not gonna tell you because you bitched out of the agreement, remember?

Of course you don't, that's why we have to CONSTANTLY rehash everything every 3 posts.

 

[UncleBuck]

Lie number 1: Your claim that I said NE was a voter ID State

if we accept your premise that an electric bill is the same thing as 'voter ID', then nebraska is certainly a voter ID state.

not a lie, you just can't accept your own premises.

Lie number 2: Your claim that I said NE was just like CO and AK

it is.

all you have to do is show your electric bill to vote.

Lie number 3: Your claim that you didn't show ID to vote

i didn't. i showed my electric bill. an electric bill is not 'identification' in the way normal people think of identification. it is a bill, in the way normal people think of 'bills'.

And no, I'm not gonna tell you because you bitched out of the agreement, remember?

so how exactly do i vote in alabama without an ID and no one to vouch for me?