Marshydro Led grow...

[Lighterfighter]

legit. For future knowledge. The green one has less lumens at a 4 foot range then the black one. so the reflective hoods only 3w leds vs the mars 2 black 5 watt led. I believe it is almost 1.5x the penetration. 100 cm for the green ones and 150cm deep penetration for the mars 2. I would suggest future users get the mars 2 hopefully they dont provide fake data lol

 

[WazzaX]

I put my other 2 from outside into the tent...i used the net but the plants were to big and they have filled it already so it may become pointless having the net this time around after the stretch...at worst I suppose itll act as something for the branches to lean on down the track lol...will give them a couple of days at 18 hours to settle in before I turn to flower

 

[Lighterfighter]

even canopy is crucial esp for led! I believe in part this is why yours look better then others here. you had a really nice even canopy. If they havent gone through stretch from flower, I would clean them up now! semi lolipop, get rid of lower nothingness, maybe consider topping. then put the net up so you could scrog. That is what you were considering the net for, right? I have bammboo poles that are in the pots, then twistie ties that I use to tie it to my preferred height of the poles or use the amboo method and move forward as is. I would top it then loly pop just a nudge and put the net up at a lower height if you could run into any high issues in stretch or want need to keep an even canopy. wait 3-5 days. hit the switches. I like lst alot because it makes long almost claW LOOKING NUGS!! i dont do nets as much, but the bamboo support sticks help a when they get heavy and so would a net! I always have issue of the negs toppling over, so maybe I should put nets up. I got one right now that has nugs pointing to the ground lol. for led though the nest are probably your best best for uniformity. idk if claw nugs will happen without a banging hps.

 

[Lighterfighter]

ps the methods I have stated have been proven to produce higher yields with higher quality. I have seen that if the light is the same, whether you fit 35 babies into a room or 3 giants like I have now. They produce approximately the same amounts in the end. but if you dont trim and fit the right amount of plant into your area before you hit the switches you will end up with alot of wasted plant energy on under fluff o r larffys because they dont get light (food), thus reducing your over all yield and quality. imo.

 

[Dr. Hook]

Found this thread when looking for reviews and feedback on Marshydro lights...and I took the plunge.

I have a closet....5'5x2'x8'...and I purchased two Marshydro units.

1. The Marshydro II 400..LED Output Power:80pcs*5w
2. The Reflector 144...LED output power: 144x3

I'll be growing hydroponically...I've done some homework and have a fair handle on that process. Two 28" x 20" x 14" totes will house my plants and are a near perfect fit for the space..as are the lights. I'll go simple at first...but would like to add a top feed (bubbleponics) once I get going and my plans should make that a relatively easy addition to my space.

Initially I'll be setting up both lights in the closet for a single grow...veg and flower...once I get some growing under my belt, I'd like to use one of those lights for veg (housed elsewhere)...and I'll purchase another to replace it in the closet for the flowering.

I've loved the attitude and knowledge I've found on this thread, it's been helpful in prep. I'm hoping to take advantage all this knowledge.

first question: looking at the lux/lumens on the marshydro site...each lamp offers roughly 10K lux at 50cm (20") and 5K lux at 100cm...so, if I understand this correctly...the offset light will provide additional light to plants on the other side of the closet. So with two lights installed simple math suggests the plants are getting about 50% more light...probably less considering angle...is that correct?

Great looking grows btw, this thread has been fun to catch up on.

 

[Noobie1]

hi y'all

today i received my Mars Hydro LED growlight. I have raised my Fem seeds with 2x300w CFLs but felt it lacked power and penetration when it came to veg. I already tried the cfls with 2 x Lemon ice seeds i had and they haven't grown well into veg so decided i needed another LED.

I went for the Mars Hydro because the price of Budmaster II lights (that i flower with) are ridiculous (even though they are phenomenal)

As there is little info available on these specific units i decided to have a punt. Also they have U.S stock which was a bonus.

I am growing 3 strains, all from Amsterdam. I planted them on 24/6/2014 except Incredible Bulk which was planted 4 days later

3x Bulldog Chronic THC - 20% 650gm/m2
3x Pineapple Chunk THC - 25% 650gm/m2
1x incredible Bulk THC - 24% 1000gm/m2 <yes, that's what the breeder claims

I am planning on foliar feeding the "runts" as the experimental feed i have claims it will force the runts to catch up to the bigger plants (i doubt it)

light specs :

• Reflector design 100% LED lumen output to plants
• Glass free design. Glass and extra lenses can diminish lumen output by as much as 20 percent! Our design provides more light for your plants.
• Growth/Bloom switches, Save more power and more efficiency.
• Spectrum: 430~440nm, 450~475nm, 620~630nm, 650~670nm, White, Real Infrared spectrum: 730nm
• LEDs: 192*3WLEDs
• Dimension: 22*19*2inches
• Lumen: 29200lumens
• Coverage: 4*4ft( Veg), 3.5*3.5ft(Flowering)
• Output power: 600Watt
• Power consumption: 110V: 370W-384W/220V: 350W-364W
• Amp: 2.44A/110V, 1.22A/220V
• Worldwide Voltage Capable: AC85~265V
• View Angle of LEDs: 90/120° Mixed
• Lifespan: 50000-100000hours

Light will be kept at 2ft above plants unless stretching appears then it will be alter accordingly

Nutrients :

Magne-cal+ by plant magic 1ml/L
Bio Green Grow 1 1ml/L
Experimental foliar spray 3xpw


Water:

Tap water PH'd to 5.8
Currently hand watered but will be switching to gravity fed drip feed ASAP

Medium :

Amsterdam Gold Label COCO

Temp:

24c - 27c

RH :

50% - 60%

if ive forgotten to mention anything i'll add it later.

heres some Pics to get started
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ignore the plants on the right, they are for cloning then the best two will be added to the grow later. I plan to add a gravity fed drip feed system so ill add pics of that next.

ill post new pics and updates as i go, feel free to add any comments or ideas.

Hi Guys & Gals, To oilmaker68 & others using the marshydro , Can you tell me if you got really soft & flimsy stems on the first week or 2 of veg, I am only on the 2nd week & each seedling is growing, But I have noticed 2 or 3 have really weak stems & twice now when I watered softly, They still fell over, Any suggesting's guys, Thanks

 

[Mandangleow]

Hi Guys & Gals, To oilmaker68 & others using the marshydro , Can you tell me if you got really soft & flimsy stems on the first week or 2 of veg, I am only on the 2nd week & each seedling is growing, But I have noticed 2 or 3 have really weak stems & twice now when I watered softly, They still fell over, Any suggesting's guys, Thanks

It's normal. Try watering with a spray bottle. It helped my current seedlings that had the same problem, but have grown and strengthened. I think I also stayed heavy on the root food and foliar root food. I had to use twistys and support sticks.[/QUOTE]

 

[Noobie1]

It's normal. Try watering with a spray bottle. It helped my current seedlings that had the same problem, but have grown and strengthened. I think I also stayed heavy on the root food and foliar root food. I had to use twistys and support sticks.

[/QUOTE]







Cheers Mate,

I am currently using CANNA Terra Vega & CANNA RHIZOTONIC , But I stopped that for the last 2 waters because I was getting yellowing of the leaves & wasn't sure if I was burning the roots or getting bleaching from the led lights , I now moved the lights up to 18 inchs away, Im now going to start feeding them the nutrients again & hope for the best,
As you can see by my user name, I am a noob.

 

[Mandangleow]

Word. I'd stick to Rizo until 3rd leaf set. Then start 1/4 strength nutes. I'm on my 3rd grow myself, but I've learned shit tons so far.




Cheers Mate,

I am currently using CANNA Terra Vega & CANNA RHIZOTONIC , But I stopped that for the last 2 waters because I was getting yellowing of the leaves & wasn't sure if I was burning the roots or getting bleaching from the led lights , I now moved the lights up to 18 inchs away, Im now going to start feeding them the nutrients again & hope for the best,
As you can see by my user name, I am a noob.[/QUOTE]

 

[Noobie1]

Word. I'd stick to Rizo until 3rd leaf set. Then start 1/4 strength nutes. I'm on my 3rd grow myself, but I've learned shit tons so far.




Cheers Mate,

I am currently using CANNA Terra Vega & CANNA RHIZOTONIC , But I stopped that for the last 2 waters because I was getting yellowing of the leaves & wasn't sure if I was burning the roots or getting bleaching from the led lights , I now moved the lights up to 18 inchs away, Im now going to start feeding them the nutrients again & hope for the best,
As you can see by my user name, I am a noob.

[/QUOTE]




So Mandangleow , In your first few weeks do you only use RHIZOTONIC, What measurements do you put in then,
& when do you your self start using your Terra Vega

 

[Mandangleow]

So Mandangleow , In your first few weeks do you only use RHIZOTONIC, What measurements do you put in then,
& when do you your self start using your Terra Vega[/QUOTE]

I was taught, and practice, only using 4-6ml/Gl Rizo and 5ml/Gl Cannazym until the 3rd true leaf set grows in. Worked like a charm.

Then I started with 1/4 strength AN Sensi Grow A&B because it's on hand and I need to use unit up. I'm blooming my other plants with Canna Substra Bloom A&B at 1/2 strength, but not until the 3rd week of 12/12.

 

[WazzaX]

first question: looking at the lux/lumens on the marshydro site...each lamp offers roughly 10K lux at 50cm (20") and 5K lux at 100cm...so, if I understand this correctly...the offset light will provide additional light to plants on the other side of the closet. So with two lights installed simple math suggests the plants are getting about 50% more light...probably less considering angle...is that correct?

Great looking grows btw, this thread has been fun to catch up on.

Welcome to the thread mate...hopefully someone can answer this for you as your question is way over my head lol...best advice I can give so far in my limited growing is to keep it simple and remember your plants are a weed

 

[Noobie1]

Welcome to the thread mate...hopefully someone can answer this for you as your question is way over my head lol...best advice I can give so far in my limited growing is to keep it simple and remember your plants are a weed

Hahaha, No worries guys, That's the way I am heading, " KISS " , Just gave the girls a feed with a small mix of
RHIZOTONIC, & Terra Vega Via spray bottle, Ill keep that up till stems get stronger, I am sure I will work it out,
I have been following the thread WazzaX & oil , Just figured i would join in now that I am on the 2nd week of Veg for the first time,
I've only ever grown outdoors, LED is all new to me

 

[WazzaX]

cool mate ...looking forward to pics

 

[Noobie1]

Hey All, Just wanted to ask, The folks here that are using the MarsHydro Reflector 600w Led Grow Light ,
Have any of you measured the actual wattage draw, I just bought my self a meter tester & found they only draw 260watt,
I know the supplier states real draw is not 600watt but in fact only 350 to 360watt, But as I said, I just ran that test my self & is only giving out a miserable 260 watt, Anyone else ran this test

 

[WazzaX]

no mate I havnt measured its true draw...when buying lights (even for the lounge, dining or kitchen) I look purely on the area they will cover not the watts
I chose the "600 watt" because i needed enough light to grow in an area that would cover 1m x 1m and my googling showed it does with a little to spare....so if your area is 1m x 1m and you do everything right along the way you will have fat wall to wall buds and you wont care what the true watts are just like me lol

 

[Noobie1]

no mate I havnt measured its true draw...when buying lights (even for the lounge, dining or kitchen) I look purely on the area they will cover not the watts
I chose the "600 watt" because i needed enough light to grow in an area that would cover 1m x 1m and my googling showed it does with a little to spare....so if your area is 1m x 1m and you do everything right along the way you will have fat wall to wall buds and you wont care what the true watts are just like me lol

Kool wazzaX, I am in a 1.2m x 1.2m , I figured the more watts the better, I was initially going to go the mars 300w,
But opted to pay that little bit more & get the 600w ,
So how far along on your grow are you, Is it your first time, I have been through this forum, But cant remember what you wrote,
I have a few strains going at the moment, I will be leaving probably 3 or 4 in the tent as some look really healthy & others not so much, I will be moving the rest out doors in a few weeks,
Not sure what country your from, But im in Aus

 

[Smoken-n-Token]

Hey All, Just wanted to ask, The folks here that are using the MarsHydro Reflector 600w Led Grow Light ,
Have any of you measured the actual wattage draw, I just bought my self a meter tester & found they only draw 260watt,
I know the supplier states real draw is not 600watt but in fact only 350 to 360watt, But as I said, I just ran that test my self & is only giving out a miserable 260 watt, Anyone else ran this test

I think I know what could be causing it. This is only hypothetical by the way. I can't even tested yet as I'm still waiting for my LED grow light to arrived. But I built a lot of LED systems in the manner of small systems not grow systems but the electronic project stuff.


I've ordered a 300 watt LED grow light. It states: that it has 100 3 watt LEDs. Now is it going to drive at 300 Watts, probably not. My reasoning for this is that commercial products normally under power their LEDs to favor long life.

The LED grow light I purchased described 50,000 hours before I can expect any of my LEDs to start burning out. So I must conclude when they advertise a 300 watt grow light their advertising the rated wattage of the LEDs themselves as a whole and not actually advertising the actual power output of the onboard drivers.



I'm not sure that they're doing this to favor long life or to save money on the LED drivers, Or maybe even both.

But by all technical standpoints, If my LEDs can handle that power, I'll have no problem opening and up and cranking up the power or modding it. As I only paid $75 for my full spectrum 300 watt LED grow light. And all I have to do is crank up the power and I got a true 300 watt draw LED grow light.

But again, this is all hypothetical. I'll know for sure once I get my LED grow light in the mail. Then I'll start testing on it, and experimenting.

 

[WazzaX]

So how far along on your grow are you, Is it your first time, I have been through this forum, But cant remember what you wrote,

hmmm... i think ive posted on nearly every page of this thread mate

 

[Noobie1]

I think I know what could be causing it. This is only hypothetical by the way. I can't even tested yet as I'm still waiting for my LED grow light to arrived. But I built a lot of LED systems in the manner of small systems not grow systems but the electronic project stuff.


I've ordered a 300 watt LED grow light. It states: that it has 100 3 watt LEDs. Now is it going to drive at 300 Watts, probably not. My reasoning for this is that commercial products normally under power their LEDs to favor long life.

The LED grow light I purchased described 50,000 hours before I can expect any of my LEDs to start burning out. So I must conclude when they advertise a 300 watt grow light their advertising the rated wattage of the LEDs themselves as a whole and not actually advertising the actual power output of the onboard drivers.



I'm not sure that they're doing this to favor long life or to save money on the LED drivers, Or maybe even both.

But by all technical standpoints, If my LEDs can handle that power, I'll have no problem opening and up and cranking up the power or modding it. As I only paid $75 for my full spectrum 300 watt LED grow light. And all I have to do is crank up the power and I got a true 300 watt draw LED grow light.

But again, this is all hypothetical. I'll know for sure once I get my LED grow light in the mail. Then I'll start testing on it, and experimenting.

Hey Smoken-n-Token , Yeah I figured all that , Here is the add
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MarsHydro-Reflector-600w-Led-Grow-Light-Growth-Flower-Switches-Grow-Lamp-Panel-/280980995708?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item416bc5be7c


I understand that it wont be 600w , They do at least try & state in their listing that in aus which is 240v I should at least get 350w to 364 w

• Output power: 600Watt

• Power consumption: 110V: 370W-384W/220V: 350W-364W

My test came back as 260w, Oh well, Few guys on here are still having a good run with it, So lets see in a few months,
Fingers crossed,
Cheers guys & gals