Triacontanol help
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vostok
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Yes ...we need members like you ..willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause ...
like in WW1 or WW2 ...lol
This shit is a hormonal and is foilar applied to the water leaves and bud ..little is known on the effects of humans and lungs ..as yet
keep us informed ...like if you drop dead ..?
consider: that the effective application rate is 1 ug/liter, that is, 1 microgram per liter
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2013/308651/
you ain't the last so I quizzed the kid at the burger joint on the corner''
V, .. the best of our recollections, the guys were not actually looking for tria when they found it; they might have simply been researching use of nearby (locally to them) mulches (or, perhaps waste products from other agriculture) as a cover crop or `fertilizer` if you would for this example, versus applying traditional `fertilizers`.
Once the results of the field(s) were reviewed, the experimenters did the work of isolating the compunds which increased growth rates and yields, and cam across tria.
There have been several papers on the insolubility of tria, and the various methods of making it more soluble in some form of liquid.
There might be several packaged products at large which contain tria, some more difficult to source than others, but available.
The most important factor that we found during our research into tria, was that the effective application rate was only 1 ug/liter, that is, 1 microgram per liter. We will not go into the math involved in defining a microgram, as it might be an exercise in itself.
Further, the primary researchers later found that applying more than the approximate 1 micro gram per liter might actually nullify the effects of tria. Therefore, the researchers then proceeded to create a solution which only dispersed that single microgram per liter evenly over a given crop. there miight be several studies, papers, etc. on that complicated subject matter.
Alternative sources for tria might include the original raw (unrefined) materials that the original researchers used in their experiments, that is alfalfa meal dispersed into the media.If a gardener really desires to delve into stable collidial dispersions of tria, they might be in for some decent research and micro-measurements of materials, yet perhaps possible. Polysorbate 20 has been used as an emulsifier to facilitate application of it as a foliar spray, or, in fact as a media drench. Again, we must refer to the effective application rate of only 1 microgram per liter of solution - not 1 ppm, but 1 ppb.
Also, again, we reiterate that it was later found that more than a certain amount of tria applied might simply render the `pgr` ineffective. There might be a substantial amount of research on this topic to filter through to find very small points that might indeed directly affect the viability of the given solution, or other tria application.
Again, we must reiterate that the effective rate of tria is only 1 microgram per liter. Ordinary alfalfa meal, modestly incorporated into a media, or even applied as a top-dressing only once or so per season, might render the desired effects. Does not have to be a `tea, nor does there need to be a substantial amount applied, nor does it need to be applied more than once, as the primary researchers may have found that tria only needed to be applied once (a single application) to be effective (increased growth rates and eventual `yield`). As we noted above, we did our research some time ago, and do not have our notes before us presently. At that time, we were attempting to use a certain raw material to extract and isolate tria, then create a soluble form (solution, to the extent possible) of the isolated material, at the appropriate and effective concentration rate disclosed by the original researchers. To the best of our recollections, there were/are other natural materials besides alfalfa from which tria could be derived, though that process might be rather involved (requiring laboratory grade practices to extract and isolate it as a fine, predominantly insolvent crystalline powder).
It (tria) perhaps can also be directly acquired as that powder from certain high quality laboratories, but then there would be the task of creating a soluble dispersion at 1 microgram per liter (rhetorially describing it here as splitting a single particle into a billion pieces within a 1 liter spray bottle,), and only applying that spray a single time, to cover the entire crop.
In any event, a small amount of alfalfa meal, for example, perhaps a handfull or less (1 to 4 ounces), dispersed as a top-dressing, or incorporated into the media might work - as that was, roughly, the material used for the original experiment(s).
However, as a practical consideration, the gardener might want to retain a `control` specimen to determine if the tria experiment specimen actually produced the desired results at the conclusion of the experiment.
We hope that this post might be helpful.Kind regards, Malcolm B'
like in WW1 or WW2 ...lol
This shit is a hormonal and is foilar applied to the water leaves and bud ..little is known on the effects of humans and lungs ..as yet
keep us informed ...like if you drop dead ..?
consider: that the effective application rate is 1 ug/liter, that is, 1 microgram per liter
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2013/308651/
you ain't the last so I quizzed the kid at the burger joint on the corner''
V, .. the best of our recollections, the guys were not actually looking for tria when they found it; they might have simply been researching use of nearby (locally to them) mulches (or, perhaps waste products from other agriculture) as a cover crop or `fertilizer` if you would for this example, versus applying traditional `fertilizers`.
Once the results of the field(s) were reviewed, the experimenters did the work of isolating the compunds which increased growth rates and yields, and cam across tria.
There have been several papers on the insolubility of tria, and the various methods of making it more soluble in some form of liquid.
There might be several packaged products at large which contain tria, some more difficult to source than others, but available.
The most important factor that we found during our research into tria, was that the effective application rate was only 1 ug/liter, that is, 1 microgram per liter. We will not go into the math involved in defining a microgram, as it might be an exercise in itself.
Further, the primary researchers later found that applying more than the approximate 1 micro gram per liter might actually nullify the effects of tria. Therefore, the researchers then proceeded to create a solution which only dispersed that single microgram per liter evenly over a given crop. there miight be several studies, papers, etc. on that complicated subject matter.
Alternative sources for tria might include the original raw (unrefined) materials that the original researchers used in their experiments, that is alfalfa meal dispersed into the media.If a gardener really desires to delve into stable collidial dispersions of tria, they might be in for some decent research and micro-measurements of materials, yet perhaps possible. Polysorbate 20 has been used as an emulsifier to facilitate application of it as a foliar spray, or, in fact as a media drench. Again, we must refer to the effective application rate of only 1 microgram per liter of solution - not 1 ppm, but 1 ppb.
Also, again, we reiterate that it was later found that more than a certain amount of tria applied might simply render the `pgr` ineffective. There might be a substantial amount of research on this topic to filter through to find very small points that might indeed directly affect the viability of the given solution, or other tria application.
Again, we must reiterate that the effective rate of tria is only 1 microgram per liter. Ordinary alfalfa meal, modestly incorporated into a media, or even applied as a top-dressing only once or so per season, might render the desired effects. Does not have to be a `tea, nor does there need to be a substantial amount applied, nor does it need to be applied more than once, as the primary researchers may have found that tria only needed to be applied once (a single application) to be effective (increased growth rates and eventual `yield`). As we noted above, we did our research some time ago, and do not have our notes before us presently. At that time, we were attempting to use a certain raw material to extract and isolate tria, then create a soluble form (solution, to the extent possible) of the isolated material, at the appropriate and effective concentration rate disclosed by the original researchers. To the best of our recollections, there were/are other natural materials besides alfalfa from which tria could be derived, though that process might be rather involved (requiring laboratory grade practices to extract and isolate it as a fine, predominantly insolvent crystalline powder).
It (tria) perhaps can also be directly acquired as that powder from certain high quality laboratories, but then there would be the task of creating a soluble dispersion at 1 microgram per liter (rhetorially describing it here as splitting a single particle into a billion pieces within a 1 liter spray bottle,), and only applying that spray a single time, to cover the entire crop.
In any event, a small amount of alfalfa meal, for example, perhaps a handfull or less (1 to 4 ounces), dispersed as a top-dressing, or incorporated into the media might work - as that was, roughly, the material used for the original experiment(s).
However, as a practical consideration, the gardener might want to retain a `control` specimen to determine if the tria experiment specimen actually produced the desired results at the conclusion of the experiment.
We hope that this post might be helpful.Kind regards, Malcolm B'
TonightYou
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Posting multiple threads always helps.
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Didn't realize I posted it twice....thanks for the sarcasm....i just pressed back on my phone to edit my typing and it got posted twice....if your not here to help your 2 cents isn't needed thanks
Thanks for the reply broski, I'll sacrifice a plant or 2 for comparison for you lolll