to all soil growers, what size pot do you veg in?

ConnoisseurIV

ConnoisseurIV

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I've been using one gallon pots to veg in. Yesterday I decided to move up to two gallon pots. Does anyone here use two gallon pots or better? How is your results with it, was it worth the switch?
 
ConnoisseurIV

ConnoisseurIV

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I decided to switch up in pot size because my strain is sativa dominant (Jilly Bean from TGA) and I'm afraid they will fall over.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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another rule of thumb (for soil) is two gallons per foot of growth. Too many variables other than that, I have indicas that don't need much room, but my stretchy sativa's need way more soil, not to mention the fact that they grow faster, which dictates their appetite for extra nitrogen also.
In order to really give you an accurate answer, i'd need to know the approx. the final size of the plant, how tall when triggered, the media ingredients/nutes and so on.
my querkle or my critical+ don't need much room, byt my blue dream loves the space, and my jack herer is in between.
 
ConnoisseurIV

ConnoisseurIV

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They are eating very fast so I think going two gallon is good. Also, should I transplant from clone machine into two gallon? Does it even make a difference?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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ConnoisseurIV said:
They are eating very fast so I think going two gallon is good. Also, should I transplant from clone machine into two gallon? Does it even make a difference?
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people vary on this, but I HATE transplanting into a large container, you can visibly see a much denser rootball when a plant is transplanted more often (assuming you are gentle and somewhat skilled at transplanting) course this may be attributed to my application of mychorrizae at each transplant, but my theory is this, when a plant is transplanted into a big container the roots go out to the sides and don't "fill" in the empty space in-between, so you get pockets of soil with not a whole lot of roots in there, so more transplants equal kinda like the same effect of the Russian figurine-doll thingys. Know what I mean? Each size bigger than the previous?
I base this ENTIRELY on my post harvest inspection of the soil (I urge everyone to inspect the rootballs after harvesting, those that don't use the no-till, of course)
The argument against this is simply time. But it's essential to me to have a well established root system as I use only organics/aacts/ssts/and vermicompost.
 
vostok

vostok

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greasemonkeymann said:
people vary on this, but I HATE transplanting into a large container, you can visibly see a much denser rootball when a plant is transplanted more often (assuming you are gentle and somewhat skilled at transplanting) course this may be attributed to my application of mychorrizae at each transplant, but my theory is this, when a plant is transplanted into a big container the roots go out to the sides and don't "fill" in the empty space in-between, so you get pockets of soil with not a whole lot of roots in there, so more transplants equal kinda like the same effect of the Russian figurine-doll thingys. Know what I mean? Each size bigger than the previous?
I base this ENTIRELY on my post harvest inspection of the soil (I urge everyone to inspect the rootballs after harvesting, those that don't use the no-till, of course)
The argument against this is simply time. But it's essential to me to have a well established root system as I use only organics/aacts/ssts/and vermicompost.
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Your basic knowledge of plants roots just sucks, roots and theres so many different types, are made up of basically 3 types, the seekers, the receivers and the drinkers / eaters, its those roots that entangle the pot interior diameter, searching for a way out.= the seekers
the receivers the shortest of the 3, believed to work in with the mychorrizae as an aid to communication, the drinker/eaters depending on the quality of your medium are average for the plant height and do as the name suggest and supply the plant with nutrition and oxygen..

how the fuck Russian dolls fit into this is anybodies guess,..???
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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vostok said:
Your basic knowledge of plants roots just sucks, roots and theres so many different types, are made up of basically 3 types, the seekers, the receivers and the drinkers / eaters, its those roots that entangle the pot interior diameter, searching for a way out.= the seekers
the receivers the shortest of the 3, believed to work in with the mychorrizae as an aid to communication, the drinker/eaters depending on the quality of your medium are average for the plant height and do as the name suggest and supply the plant with nutrition and oxygen..

how the fuck Russian dolls fit into this is anybodies guess,..???
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it sucks huh. OK, and you failed to see my analogy. I've seen you get aggressive with others before, it won't work with me, I have an itchy ignore-finger. Life is entirely too short to be an asshole.
I'm sure glad you enlightened me on how roots work.
 
vostok

vostok

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greasemonkeymann said:
it sucks huh. OK, and you failed to see my analogy. I've seen you get aggressive with others before, it won't work with me, I have an itchy ignore-finger. Life is entirely too short to be an asshole.
I'm sure glad you enlightened me on how roots work.
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I have no wish to look into your anus,
I'm not aggressive, just pissed with growers of your level
spitting shit to younger guys seeking help with genuine concerns
you may have an itchy finger?
...please use it
..Da?​
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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vostok said:
I have no wish to look into your anus,
I'm not aggressive, just pissed with growers of your level
spitting shit to younger guys seeking help with genuine concerns
you may have an itchy finger?
...please use it
..Da?​
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ok, used it, have a nice life my friend, I hope you find happiness some day.
I disagree with you. Leave it at that. Like I said, time is too precious to occupy it with anger from a un-reputable or un-important source.
Annnnnd ignore.
 
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justugh

justugh

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ConnoisseurIV said:
I've been using one gallon pots to veg in. Yesterday I decided to move up to two gallon pots. Does anyone here use two gallon pots or better? How is your results with it, was it worth the switch?
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the size of the pot/bag
dictates the size of the plant .................i have never used anything smaller then 3 gallons ............the most is 7 gallon
the kind of dirt the size and how often u water ......are the major factors on how much u will walk away with when u are done

good soil this is the math ............1 gallon of soil is 1 month of growth/bloom so if u are using 2 gallons pot u only have enough power in the soil for 2 months of growth after that u will need to feed them with something in the water u give them

so if u are planing on growing your plants for 4 months u should atleast have it in a 4 gallon pot/bag i would add a extra gallon or 2 just to be safe and the extra water retention it offers
 
ConnoisseurIV

ConnoisseurIV

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justugh said:
the size of the pot/bag
dictates the size of the plant .................i have never used anything smaller then 3 gallons ............the most is 7 gallon
the kind of dirt the size and how often u water ......are the major factors on how much u will walk away with when u are done

good soil this is the math ............1 gallon of soil is 1 month of growth/bloom so if u are using 2 gallons pot u only have enough power in the soil for 2 months of growth after that u will need to feed them with something in the water u give them

so if u are planing on growing your plants for 4 months u should atleast have it in a 4 gallon pot/bag i would add a extra gallon or 2 just to be safe and the extra water retention it offers[/QUOTE
Yeah thats what I was getting too thanks
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jijiandfarmgang

jijiandfarmgang

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greasemonkeymann said:
people vary on this, but I HATE transplanting into a large container, you can visibly see a much denser rootball when a plant is transplanted more often (assuming you are gentle and somewhat skilled at transplanting) course this may be attributed to my application of mychorrizae at each transplant, but my theory is this, when a plant is transplanted into a big container the roots go out to the sides and don't "fill" in the empty space in-between, so you get pockets of soil with not a whole lot of roots in there, so more transplants equal kinda like the same effect of the Russian figurine-doll thingys. Know what I mean? Each size bigger than the previous?
I base this ENTIRELY on my post harvest inspection of the soil (I urge everyone to inspect the rootballs after harvesting, those that don't use the no-till, of course)
The argument against this is simply time. But it's essential to me to have a well established root system as I use only organics/aacts/ssts/and vermicompost.
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I know exactly what you mean, don't worry Vostok is a stupid jerk.

I wouldn't start off with anything larger than a gallon, and only transplant once.

Also his advice was wrong or at least misguided. Heard that gallon a month thing from Jorge Cervantes,who is also full of misguided info. Like said above there are to many variables its hard to say. I've seen 10 gallon pots packed solid with roots in 3 months. I think the best way to judge is look at your past grow, do they look root bound, does it from a solid root block when you harvest? Decide from there.

- Jiji
 
vostok

vostok

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jijiandfarmgang said:
I know exactly what you mean, don't worry Vostok is a stupid jerk.

I wouldn't start off with anything larger than a gallon, and only transplant once.

Also his advice was wrong or at least misguided. Heard that gallon a month thing from Jorge Cervantes,who is also full of misguided info. Like said above there are to many variables its hard to say. I've seen 10 gallon pots packed solid with roots in 3 months. I think the best way to judge is look at your past grow, do they look root bound, does it from a solid root block when you harvest? Decide from there.

- Jiji
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I draw comfort from the fact you think me a jerk and at the OP's expense( ConnoisseurIV) ...typical?
however Cervantas(Patton) is a renown horticulturists and who are you? ...exactly ..(cuddle those trophy points all 58 of them)...lol


Besides, the advice I offer comes from hard earned experience listed under life, in many resumes called 'common the fuck sense'
so stop hogging the scene GTFOH
​
Unlike you I will allow the op to draw his/her conclusion ..lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Cervantes#Book

to my blog: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/12-week-grow-sceneario-by-jorge-cervantas.30164/
 
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