420hydro420
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KIND 300 watt LED Grow Light
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churchhaze
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420hydro420
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New at this so please roll with it. I will be going on my 3rd grow but my first with my new light. Just curious if you leave the light at one height in veg stage and then in flowering stage move it up some? Not sure.
gk skunky
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Kind appears to be a Chinese rebrand of the apollo. Though none of us to my knowledge have any real confirmation of the differences in any of the components used. There are a couple here that are active and use them. I have not seen any of the issues common to the apollo lights. Thought while the kinds have shown to work for the mney it would be better to look at the top 3-4 brands IMHO. Apache tech, A51, Rapid LED onyx, and the BML lights. 5th and best option for input cost to output gains would be the DIY CXA 3070s and Vero 29s.
Heavy Consumer
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Is this a fact?
Their current line of products (K5) are being pushed by Supercloset. If they're rebranded low quality generic products, they would be outrageously overpriced. I am asking around about these LEDs right now and I'd really like to hear from someone who's used or seen them in action. There's a lot of in-house marketing hype showing how they're "hands down the Best LED Grow Light available worldwide" but I'm wary of all that if there are no independent tests by growers in here or on YT. Here's the Youtube video of them testing their own product:
If it's as good as they claim it is, I'm tempted as it would be a cheaper alternative to the AT60, offering the same foot print. But if not, why drop all that cash. (They do look good, but that ain't their main function, obviously!)Any confirmed info about thee Kind LED's, especially their latest K5 line, http://kindledgrowlights.com/product/best-led-grow-light-k5-xl750/ , would be much appreciated!
cityworker415
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Hi there I have a l6 feel free to check out my tent. I run mine at 16 inch's or less.Is this a fact?
Their current line of products (K5) are being pushed by Supercloset. If they're rebranded low quality generic products, they would be outrageously overpriced. I am asking around about these LEDs right now and I'd really like to hear from someone who's used or seen them in action. There's a lot of in-house marketing hype showing how they're "hands down the Best LED Grow Light available worldwide" but I'm wary of all that if there are no independent tests by growers in here or on YT. Here's the Youtube video of them testing their own product:
Any confirmed info about thee Kind LED's, especially their latest K5 line, http://kindledgrowlights.com/product/best-led-grow-light-k5-xl750/ , would be much appreciated!
California lightworks 4x4 led tent:
Heavy Consumer
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I saw that thread. It established that the Kind K3 series LOOKS exactly like the Apollo. But did it also establish that they are using THE SAME exact components? Are the actual diodes and internal workings exactly the same? As I've never seen either in the flesh or ever used anything like either, I'm trying to keep an open mind and looking for facts. IMO positions of screws and visible likeness alone don't prove anything. Have you used them? Are they actually the same, or is it possible they just look alike? Thanks.
gk skunky
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I think you stopped reading after the first statement. Second sentence would have answered your question. LOLIs this a fact?
Their current line of products (K5) are being pushed by Supercloset. If they're rebranded low quality generic products, they would be outrageously overpriced. I am asking around about these LEDs right now and I'd really like to hear from someone who's used or seen them in action. There's a lot of in-house marketing hype showing how they're "hands down the Best LED Grow Light available worldwide" but I'm wary of all that if there are no independent tests by growers in here or on YT. Here's the Youtube video of them testing their own product:
Any confirmed info about thee Kind LED's, especially their latest K5 line, http://kindledgrowlights.com/product/best-led-grow-light-k5-xl750/ , would be much appreciated!
"Kind appears to be a Chinese rebrand of the apollo. Though none of us to my knowledge have any real confirmation of the differences in any of the components used."
cityworker415
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Shush man he'll here us..
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FeNuX791
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I just updated my grow, come check it out. It's my third grow with that light. That light has been kicking ass for 8 month. In a tent that size, that light will kick ass. Area51 is also a really good light, When I get mine, I'll probably do a side by side grow. I did add some kessils to my tent, but mine is 39x39x60. I would recommend you listen and get two A51 lights. It's damn near the price of a single kind. Especially, if you order that light directly from them.Or if you want really bad ass results and you'll still end up in the same price range of a kind, buy an A51 SGS-190 and add two h150 Magenta kessils. The XGS will pump out tons of white, and the red will give you larger yields. (Or just buy a single RW 150 and save some cash)
Pass it Around
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I think you're childish and more than likely compensating for some inferiority complex of your own. There was no need for that and your post states a great deal more about how you get your kicks than the person you were trying to belittle. You may be as unpleasant an individual as your post suggests, you may not, it just isn't important. Moving on...
If anyone can shed any further light on the topic, my original question stands to anyone in here who might have 1st hand knowledge of these lights and was not represented by gk skunky's "none of us...." comment, which may not have spoken for all of the experienced growers in here, some of whom may actually have some 1st hand knowledge. The Kind LED lights may well be massively marked up generics presented in a stylish outer casing, but so far, no one here has been able to confirm with any certainty one way or the other. Anyone actually bought or tested the K5 series yet? Any further info will be gratefully received. GK was clearly trying to help answer my question, so thanks a lot. Thanks for your input too Pass It Around.... Next time, try not to be overtly unhelpful with anything and just smoke a bowl. Everyone will benefit! Have yourself a nice day.
cityworker415
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As I posted check out my tent and look at the plants under the l6 versus the others they grow great dank if you are a grower using them. If you are learning to grow do yourself a HUGE FAVOR and get a 51 panel that's white.
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Heavy Consumer
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Thanks for the advice man (or maam)!
Are you referring to the XGS-190 white only panel? http://a51led.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=181
I'm sorry for being such a noob, but I'm gonna try and bleed you for info!
Would something like that provide the reds of the spectrum recommended for flowering and also the blues that people say are so important for veg' growth? Do you recommend this as a stand alone solution or would it be supplementary to something else? Again, thanks so much for the recommendation, I appreciate it. There's always a temptation to go and splash out on the best of everything, but in my case, buying 2 x AT600's is not viable with all the other set up costs. I'm looking at a 4 x 8 area, so a pair of A51 panels possibly with some small side-lights looks like an adequate answer. What do you think in terms of coverage? And would you recommend something different for veg', like T5s for example and the LED's just for flowering, or is that not needed? Thanks again!
Pass it Around
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True story bro, you didn't need to post your journal online cuz no ones readin it.
You also can't get mad at someone for pointing out how blatantly dumb you are. The first sentence made a statement the second one made it very clear that it wasn't fact and your first line blew my mind.
Not even george bush is that stupid
gk skunky
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Wonder if Kessil reds would be a good blend or if that wold be too much red.
I guess I need to word things differently as definition of a word eludes some.I think you're childish and more than likely compensating for some inferiority complex of your own. There was no need for that and your post states a great deal more about how you get your kicks than the person you were trying to belittle. You may be as unpleasant an individual as your post suggests, you may not, it just isn't important. Moving on...
If anyone can shed any further light on the topic, my original question stands to anyone in here who might have 1st hand knowledge of these lights and was not represented by gk skunky's "none of us...." comment, which may not have spoken for all of the experienced growers in here, some of whom may actually have some 1st hand knowledge. The Kind LED lights may well be massively marked up generics presented in a stylish outer casing, but so far, no one here has been able to confirm with any certainty one way or the other. Anyone actually bought or tested the K5 series yet? Any further info will be gratefully received. GK was clearly trying to help answer my question, so thanks a lot. Thanks for your input too Pass It Around.... Next time, try not to be overtly unhelpful with anything and just smoke a bowl. Everyone will benefit! Have yourself a nice day.
I said it appears that they are apollo rebrands. As in appearance.... My "None of us" comment still holds so far that since none of us have any knowledge to the differnce in components because no one with a KIND is willing to rip it open and void the waranty, which is 100% understandable. Hence the none of us know the actual differences. Again like I said those who are using the KIND are not experiencing all the issues common with the apollo. So something must be different. What? We don't know at this point. Until someone knowledgeable on the subject matter dissects the two and compares.
As a couple members have shown that work. Though for the watts and price as I mentioned you might look into the others like AT, A51, and RAPID if going for something other than DIY.
KIND works, but the best? Nope. What's the best...? can't really say. Until we all run the same strains with the same nutes and health in the same environments we can't really say. DIY is the best bang for the buck minus the warranty. Next ONYX from rapid led. Then A51 and AT are pretty similar when it comes larger than 2x3. If 3x3,4x4+ At and A51 are pretty similar with the deals they offer. Onyx would still be the cheapest, though you could run more watts for the same output from what I can tell at this point in time. i could be wrong... But again Time will tell for that as wel.
ficklejester
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I've had an Apollo 8 360W, very similar light for all intents and purposes, about 8" from my flowering plants for a few weeks, no trouble. They're not that bright.
Heavy Consumer
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LOL. Mad? Right on friend! Right on! Peace be upon you and by all means, keep the insults coming. I was under the impression people here were fairly friendly and treated those with less knowledge and experience with a little respect. Maybe I really am everything you say. Regarding your fine self on the other hand, you've left no doubts at all. Be well anyway.