Hello michigan

[phizzion]

WE all don't have patella, but we sure have pain. I've had my share of back pain and I'm glad I'm off vicodins. Have a double knee replacement and you'll really know pain, for awhile. Good luck, I'm sure you'll be successful (with the certification).

 

[buckaroo bonzai]

I agree w glad tho--

I smoke to relax
I smoke for pain
I smoke for spirit
I smoke recreational
I smoke socially
I smoke medicinally
I smoke religiously

I burn leaves just to burn leaves......

I smoke 2joints in the morning then i smoke 2joints at night....then i smoke 2joints just to smoke 2joints and then i feel alright

Doesn't leave much time for much else ---- but then again, what else is there to do ---- especially winter time.

I been waiting to 'thro' this on >U


--canna sutra--

For the 'winter' mnths-

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Most drs want a diagnostic sheet now. I had to get x rays wait a month for them to release my info to me.I took me about two months to get a approved for a medical mj card. And that was a renewal my previous dr that approved me got locked up.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Toe fungus=nail patella


What to do?

Just get a card...and dont get caught



The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act defines a "qualifying patient" as: a person who has been diagnosed by a physician as having a debilitating medical condition.

Specific Medical Conditions listed in Statute:
“Debilitating medical conditions" [Section 3 (a) (1)] means any of the following conditions and/or their treatments:

* Cancer
* Glaucoma
* Positive status for human immunodeficiency virus
* Acquired immune deficiency syndrome
* Hepatitis C
* Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS - Lou Gehrig's Disease)
* Crohn's disease
* Agitation of Alzheimer's disease
* Nail patella<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<HELLO


General diseases, medical conditions, and treatment not listed but authorized in Statute:
A patient can also qualify under the statute [Section 3 (a) (2)] if he/she experiences any chronic or debilitating disease or medical condition, or it's treatment, which produces one or more of the following symptoms or side effects:

* cachexia or wasting syndrome;
* severe and chronic pain;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<HELLO
* nausea;
* seizures, including but not limited to those characteristic of epilepsy;
* severe and persistent muscle spasms, including but not limited to those characteristic of multiple sclerosis

Departmental Authority to expand conditions covered:
New conditions can be specified in the future. Rule 333.131 requires the Michigan Department of Community Health (MDCH) to have a procedure for accepting petitions from the public to include additional medical conditions and treatments. The procedure must include public notice of hearings on each petition, opportunities for public input, and a reasonable time line (180 days) for approval or denial.

Affirmative Defense Conditions Covered
A person "may assert the medical purpose for using marijuana as a defense to any prosecution involving marijuana, and this defense shall be presumed valid" if a physician has stated that the patient is likely to receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's serious or debilitating medical condition or its symptoms. This statement must be:

* in his professional opinion
* having completed a full assessment of the patient's medical history and current medical condition
* in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship
* the patient is likely to receive therapeutic or palliative benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's the condition or symptoms

The Act does not specify that the statement be in writing, but common sense dictates that a written statement provides the best possible protection.

This standard is different than the one for obtaining the written certification for the registry ID card – any “serious medical condition” qualifies, as opposed to only those which are "chronic" or "debilitating," and it does not require any specific symptoms. The affirmative defense applies to both patients and caregivers who engage in

* acquisition
* possession
* cultivation
* manufacture
* use (patient only)
* delivery
* transfer
* transportation

of marijuana or paraphernalia which is used medically as described above. The amount of marijuana must be no more than is "reasonably necessary" to ensure the "uninterrupted availability" of medicine to the patient.

SPECIAL NOTE ON QUALIFYING CONDITIONS!!
You do not need to have one of the Specific Medical Conditions listed in Statute to be considered a qualified medical marijuana patient. The Statute also protects patients who use marijuana to treat the symptoms of any chronic or debilitating medical condition, or to alleviate symptoms or side effects caused by any therapy or other treatment option prescribed by your primary physician for that condition. For example, if you suffer from depression and your physician prescribes a medication to treat the depression, and that medication causes muscle aches and spasms, or it makes you nauseated, then you would qualify as a patient with a listed condition (muscle spasms, nausea), to choose medical marijuana as a treatment option. To find out if your condition applies, CALL MICHIGAN WELLNESS CENTER (810)820-8555

You better have a written letter from your dr with a phone number. medical records are a must. I keep a file with mine and all my patients records handy.

 

[941mick]

WE all don't have patella, but we sure have pain. I've had my share of back pain and I'm glad I'm off vicodins. Have a double knee replacement and you'll really know pain, for awhile. Good luck, I'm sure you'll be successful (with the certification).

You should get something on paper imo as well

A lot of us have legitimate ailments. I actually have gone through multiple knee surgeries, from high school and college football injuries, and I legitimately have very adverse reactions to pharmaceutical pain killers. After both my surgeries the only thing I was able to stomach was 2000mg Ibuprofen lol. Everything they tried prescribing gave me intense nausea.

It wasn't until after the second surgery in college that I began using cannabis medicinally and in recreational settings. I now suffer from very painful chronic joint pain from the wear and tare my knees took for 10 years.Now the only time I am using cannabis recreationally is when someone asks me to partake right after medicating lol.

 

[resinhead]

I got my certification with no prior medical records. I have migraines that cause nausea. Chronic certification center in Traverse hooked me up. When I went there, if you did not get certified, you didn't have to pay any fees. If you did get certified, it was $100 to the doctor, and $100 to the state.

 

[buckaroo bonzai]

You better have a written letter from your dr with a phone number. medical records are a must. I keep a file with mine and all my patients records handy.

Yea Michigan is harder now and kinda does suk now with their new 'bona-fide' bS that a certain dR that used to come in here helped bring online-

my 'file' is about a half inch thick.......
Xrays....followups......checkups.....wreckups.....all of it in a file

when ive had 'pts' i keep theirs around in a file too

Nothing in my crushed heel is gonna change or my leg is not going to grow the 3/4" it is shortened now from years of it

unless i spend the 70,000$+ for the operation but i dont really want it

work is therapy.....like the nazis said-
and erb is my medicine

-i dont whine alot bout my leg
-but when i do i like crackers w my whine

and a scliff

it hurts/throbs constantly.....i transcend the pain and it don't effect me....and i work.....and i work......and i work.....and i work.....and i work......

Chop wood carry water.....chop wood carry water......chop wood carry water.....

and ALL the cards ive had since 2000 i keep on me.......
-all 18-20 of them

.....just in case


and for the record........

"I dont believe you need permission from the state to use herbs for your health"

......dont quote me tho read my disclaimer

 

[GSTATUS]

Thanks for the replies guys, made my day.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Yea Michigan is harder now and kinda does suk now with their new 'bona-fide' bS that a certain dR that used to come in here helped bring online-

my 'file' is about a half inch thick.......
Xrays....followups......checkups.....wreckups.....all of it in a file

when ive had 'pts' i keep theirs around in a file too

Nothing in my crushed heel is gonna change or my leg is not going to grow the 3/4" it is shortened now from years of it

unless i spend the 70,000$+ for the operation but i dont really want it

work is therapy.....like the nazis said-
and erb is my medicine

-i dont whine alot bout my leg
-but when i do i like crackers w my whine

and a scliff

it hurts/throbs constantly.....i transcend the pain and it don't effect me....and i work.....and i work......and i work.....and i work.....and i work......

Chop wood carry water.....chop wood carry water......chop wood carry water.....

and ALL the cards ive had since 2000 i keep on me.......
-all 18-20 of them

.....just in case


and for the record........

"I dont believe you need permission from the state to use herbs for your health"

......dont quote me tho read my disclaimer

Its my freedom of religion GEN 1-29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

I got my certification with no prior medical records. I have migraines that cause nausea. Chronic certification center in Traverse hooked me up. There, if you do not get certified, you don't have to pay any fees.

Bull shit! 150 dr fee and 100 to the state.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

I got my certification with no prior medical records. I have migraines that cause nausea. Chronic certification center in Traverse hooked me up. There, if you do not get certified, you don't have to pay any fees.

In fact they told me I needed medical records and I was already approved twice prior to going to their office.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Chronic certification center is bad ass and I love those folks.

 

[freebloody]

holistic health is awesome also dr david crocker.perhaps there are a few more good docs out there

 

[941mick]

Higher Learning is $50 dollars now(or 4 for $150). First Natural Wellness is $70. There also a few new ones popping up around SE Michigan doing recommendations for $75, but I cant think of the name, they are in Ypsilanti and Dearborn Heights if im not mistaken. The price has come down a lot over the last 6 months...

 

[resinhead]

Bull shit! 150 dr fee and 100 to the state.

I edited my post to be more specific.

 

[resinhead]

Also, there I believe there is a discount for Medicare and/or Medicaide

 

[Dr.Pecker]

75$ discount from the state if you have full Medicaid. CCCis 150 for a doctors visit 120 if your getting a renewal. and you should go back once a year for a check up that part is free. its just to cover their ass and maintain a dr patient relationship.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Higher Learning is $50 dollars now(or 4 for $150). First Natural Wellness is $70. There also a few new ones popping up around SE Michigan doing recommendations for $75, but I cant think of the name, they are in Ypsilanti and Dearborn Heights if im not mistaken. The price has come down a lot over the last 6 months...

wow! I wonder what the catch is.

 

[buckaroo bonzai]

Alternative solutions plus up by petosky-
they have rotating schedules/clinics around the state-

Dr singh in southfield

There are many around the flint area....@gc3
keepin it on the dL and backin up their recs-

almost ANY dispensary has one connected to it-
pick a good one w lots of members

lots of gro shops can also steer u to one....

A2has a bunch too.....ann arbor health seems to license thousands....ive used them b4

Definately make sure whoever you pick wont have gotten busted or moved if you need them for court

Crocker....singh....AAA + imo

 

[941mick]

wow! I wonder what the catch is.

I got mine from First Natural Wellness. They don't have a catch, and even do a one year follow up visit for free.

Higher Learning probably just decided to go ahead and drop it to 50, since all the new competition was advertising 70-75.