Unidentified pests

trixong

Member
Hi guys, I hope you are all having a wonderfull week.
A few days ago when I payed a visit to my outdoor jack herer plant I saw this bug:
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I also saw weird black gewy spots on the leaves and flowers, is this bug feces or something?
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I squished it but there are also a lot of ants on my plant and Im affraid they live right under my plant.
Also seen a very small black and round beetle like insects.
The place she's at is just filled with bugs and snakes, scorpions, spiders and what not. she's at two weeks flowering and I used to spray her 2 times a week with soapy water and garlic but it doesnt really seem to help. I stoped using blackstrap mollases as I'm afraid it attracts pests.
Does anyone know what these pests are or what should I do? she's deep in the forest and it seems like I just can't win the pest war.
Any opinons would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
this is the plant
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mike4c4

Well-Known Member
those ants and grass hoppers aren't the problem. they are helping you with the real problem. they like to eat aphids and whiteflies, and spider mites. i would bet you have spider mites from the look of the yellow spots.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
those ants and grass hoppers aren't the problem. they are helping you with the real problem. they like to eat aphids and whiteflies, and spider mites. i would bet you have spider mites from the look of the yellow spots.
I hate to disagree but ants and grasshoppers are not helping with any problem. Grasshoppers chow down on plants, they rarely eat insects, remember that grasshoppers and locusts are the same thing, and there is a reason why locusts are the bane of the existence of crops of many many kinds. And ants, ants FARM aphids, they will literally carry aphids from unproductive parts of the plant to better places where they can suck more juice, and will protect the aphids from predators that would normally eat them, and aphids are definitely a problem. There are some beneficial insects, like ladybugs, praying mantises, lacewings, snakeflies, etc., but ants and grasshoppers are definitely part of the problem.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
In terms of what to do, I would suggest spraying with Neem Oil and soap, won't hurt the plant or anything but should help discourage the nasites from comping down on em. Also do a soil drench as Neem can be absorbed by the roots and work systemically to discourage pests in the future.
 

mike4c4

Well-Known Member
This is straight out of the grow bible
"Marijuana Pests – Ants
Ants don’t technically pose a threat to your cannabis garden,
but they are an indicator of an underlying threat that you may
not notice. Ants are attracted to marijuana not because they like
the taste of the plant, but because the aphids and whiteflies that
populate the plant produce a sweet nectar that the ants like to
munch on. So, when you see ants in and around your cannabis garden, they might not be
doing much damage themselves, but they are protecting the pests that actually do a lot of
damage.
Even so, the ants and their soil mounds can affect the root system of the plants and you’ll
want to eradicate them. You can do this in a number of ways, but cornmeal seems to be
the most effect ant killer that you’ll find. For more tips on how to deal with ants, continue
reading this article about ants and marijuana plants.

Marijuana pests – Aphids
Aphids are one of the peskiest bug problems you can incur and they
are sometimes hard to notice. These little pale, yellow creatures
hang around on the underside of the leaves, sucking them dry of
their nutrients and reproducing at a rate of 12 offspring per day. If
you’re growing marijuana indoors, aphids can almost entirely wipe
out your garden if they go unchecked. Outdoors, however, Mother
Nature tends to balance out the ratio. Parasitic wasps and ladybugs are predators of aphids
but in different ways.
A good indicator that you might have aphids is the presence of ants. Ants are not attracted
to marijuana on its own, but the aphids produce a nectar that the ants like. If you want to
get rid of an aphid infestation, then there are a number of different organic remedies at your
disposal. Most of these come in the form of sprays that you can make in your own home.
Read more about aphids on marijuana plants"
In terms of what to do, I would suggest spraying with Neem Oil and soap, won't hurt the plant or anything but should help discourage the nasites from comping down on em. Also do a soil drench as Neem can be absorbed by the roots and work systemically to discourage pests in the future.
 

trixong

Member
Thanks for the informative replies guys!
Well I don't have acsses to neem oil and I'm not sure it's spider mites. Two main pests are this oneIMAG2645.jpg and this little bug (sorry for the quality it moves really fast) IMAG2655.jpgIMAG2657.jpg after it was squishedIMAG2658.jpg .
I think they are responsiple for the damage, don't know what they are though.
Can I spray them at 3-4 weeks into flower?
 

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Po boy

Well-Known Member
grass hoppers are bad ass! get rid of them:they're eating machines. for the really big lubber grass hoppers i just cut them in half with my clippers. yuc!
 

AimAim

Well-Known Member
That damage is very minor. If you grow outside expect to get some leaf eaten. There are hundreds of insects and critters that will eat weed. Look at the most well-manicured garden of any type (flower, vegetable etc) and everything gets eaten on.

Start spraying chemical shit to kill every insect and I guarantee you'll have problems.

That said, there are points at which you need to react. Do some reading on IPM (integrated pest mgt)
 
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