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heckler73

heckler73

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This guy was blind and sung about beating his woman with a brick if she acted "kinda hard", among other things.
Times were tougher back then, I guess.

 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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reasonevangelist said:
How do you stop a rapist before they become a rapist? How can you know (or at least reasonably assume) who is or isn't going to rape someone?

And wtf is a whistle gonna do? Seriously. Most people are too scared to try to help. She might get lucky and be within earshot of a nearby "hero" archetype... maybe.

I still say that if a woman really wants to be "safe" (as possible), she'll put in the work to gain physical strength and martial knowledge sufficient to equal or exceed the brute force of any potential rapist, and not willingly put herself in compromising positions (such as being "legally incompetent after just one drink"), because she cares enough about protecting herself, to take it seriously. And if she happens to get attacked, overwhelmed, and successfully raped... then fuck it, shoot the guy! Everyone would understand, IMO. I would anyway. If a woman killed her rapist during or immediately after the incident, i'd vote justifiable homicide. If the rapist rolls the dice and loses, that's his own damn fault.

Women need to be tough enough to fend for themselves, if they want to be considered "equal." That's part of the responsibility of independence: "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance." People everywhere are waiting to take your freedom from you, one way or another. You have to care enough to prepare to maintain the level of readiness required to stop someone like that. I've seen some very tough women who would make any potential attacker regret his choice of target.
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Girls drinking is not a compromising position it is a legal age right every adult male and female can freely choose to enjoy.

There is no basis to any argument predicated upon a women looses her ability or right to consent if she is intoxicated.
 
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reasonevangelist

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UncleBuck said:
good job on pardoning the rapist and putting the burden on the victim, shithead.
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When a person at a zoo leaps the fence into the lion's den and gets mauled, do you blame the lion? Or the idiot who put themselves in an obviously dangerous and unmanageable situation?

I apply the same logic to myself: i don't willingly put myself in any situation that i can determine may quickly escalate beyond my capacity to mitigate incoming attacks. Example: i don't walk into a biker bar and start insulting everyone in the room. I don't walk into a "club" and start throwing around N-words. I don't walk into a crowd of people and start shit. Because i know that would have bad consequences. I assess the potential for uncontrollable consequence, and make decisions accordingly. Sometimes, though, you'll suddenly find yourself in the middle of a spontaneously developing situation, and all you can do is all you can do.

Threat assessment is an important part of self-protection, which i'm sure anyone opposed to being raped, will care about, enough to scope the scene and make a sound decision. Unless they expect that everyone else should look out for their well-being for them, as if it's not purely their own responsibility alone.

You want your independence and equality, you have to learn to become self-sufficient, instead of relying on the princess card and expecting everyone you can't give a shit about otherwise, to come rushing to your aid in your moment of need (which will likely happen anyway, due to the power of the vagina, and most of them seem to know and exploit this). Too many people want to be saved from what they damn well should have known better than to do to themselves, or from situations they damn well should have known to avoid in the first place.

Besides: you can't force someone to refrain from rape, unless you know they're going to attempt it.

I will admit though, there are some super slick psycho-manipulators out there, and i can understand how even reasonably cognitively present people, might easily trust a person they shouldn't.

In fact, this entire country is based on the art of "the con(fidence trick)." That's why there are so many tricksters and grifters and con-men (and women). It's encouraged! Haven't you ever heard that "women love confidence?" So that's a natural inclination to be attracted to the men most likely to exploit their trust. Someone should work on fixing that.
 
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reasonevangelist

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earnest_voice said:
Girls drinking is not a compromising position it is a legal age right every adult male and female can freely choose to enjoy.

There is no basis to any argument predicated upon a women looses her ability or right to consent if she is intoxicated.
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While i agree, people who choose to become inebriated, are still responsible for their inebriated actions... there are plenty of people arguing that ONE DRINK makes women "unable to consent."

So is that a bullshit excuse, or not?
 
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reasonevangelist

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NoDrama said:
You know why some women wear makeup and perfume?
because they're ugly, and they stink.
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Honestly, i think it's because they think they're not attractive enough to pull the "alpha" they want... (for whom they will compete with numerous other tryhard fems, and then complain when they get treated like just another disposable "thing" ...if they'd go after the less privileged guy who might not be as big or strong or rich or gorgeous, they'd probably find someone who actually cares about them... but i guess that's not the priority these days)
 
earnest_voice

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reasonevangelist said:
Honestly, i think it's because they think they're not attractive enough to pull the "alpha" they want... (for whom they will compete with numerous other tryhard fems, and then complain when they get treated like just another disposable "thing" ...if they'd go after the less privileged guy who might not be as big or strong or rich or gorgeous, they'd probably find someone who actually cares about them... but i guess that's not the priority these days)
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You haven't had serious relationship with a woman not related you i'm guessing?

Women wear makeup for a variety of different reasons from societal and workplace expectations or to just feel good about themselves on a fancy night out with the girls.

Your argument isn't very solid and somewhat misogynistic.
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
so you're saying that you're completely unable to keep yourself from raping?

sick.
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I think he is alluding that maybe women should not dress in nothing more than a small tight shirt and a small miniskirt with no panties on and then go hang out at a biker bar doing shots.

Why are you so dumb?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
I think he is alluding that maybe women should not dress in nothing more than a small tight shirt and a small miniskirt with no panties on and then go hang out at a biker bar doing shots.

Why are you so dumb?
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so you're saying that's a suitable excuse to rape someone?

doesn't surprise me, since you're defending the raping of 14 year old slaves in another thread.
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
so you're saying that's a suitable excuse to rape someone?
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No you idiot, Im saying a smart girl shouldn't put herself in a position where it would be more likely to happen. How dumb are you?

I assume you are 2 sheets to the wind because your comprehension sucks complete donkey balls.

Oh and no one is defending a rapist, only trying to get you morons to show proof of your claim that DNA evidence proved that consensual sex did not happen, but for some reason you dummies keep avoiding it like the ebola virus. Probably because you finally understand that you have only got claims and no proof whatsoever.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
No you idiot, Im saying a smart girl shouldn't put herself in a position where it would be more likely to happen. How dumb are you?

I assume you are 2 sheets to the wind because your comprehension sucks complete donkey balls.
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so scantily clad women are basically an invitation to rape?
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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NoDrama said:
No you idiot, Im saying a smart girl shouldn't put herself in a position where it would be more likely to happen. How dumb are you?

I assume you are 2 sheets to the wind because your comprehension sucks complete donkey balls.

Oh and no one is defending a rapist, only trying to get you morons to show proof of your claim that DNA evidence proved that consensual sex did not happen, but for some reason you dummies keep avoiding it like the ebola virus. Probably because you finally understand that you have only got claims and no proof whatsoever.
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This is the same guy that exclaims it's simply not true that women are natural caregivers...

I mean why would he see women as anything but objects based on his disgusting comments in support of rape and rapists.
 
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