First Grow In 6 Years - Chemdog, Berry Ryder, Northern Lights

GroErr

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Nice, that rez dog looks like a clone from a flowering plant, but that's from seed, weird, are they known for that? The JTR seeds I've run form weird in shape, like they were mainlined, and I've had twins from one seed, the twins turned out to be male so I collected the pollen to make some strains I'm running in the 12/12 from seed party cup comp :)
 

ayr0n

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Nice, that rez dog looks like a clone from a flowering plant, but that's from seed, weird, are they known for that?
I'm not sure - couldn't find any info on this strain (the Auto Seeds cross). There's a lot on the original chemdogs but nothing on AS's cross. Here's pics of the previous 2 as seedlings:Chemdog b.jpg Chemdog a.jpg

Both displayed a variety of leaf deformities throughout the grow but still grew really quick / vigorously. This ones looking like the same deal but starting off w/ the oddities right out the gate

and I've had twins from one seed, the twins turned out to be male so I collected the pollen to make some strains I'm running in the 12/12 from seed party cup comp :)
That sounds awesome. Did you get any pics of the twins? I'll have to go check out the comp
 

GroErr

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Weird, that first pick with the curved leaves. Yeah, I posted that grow in my journal, a couple of months back now, pics from seedlings to pollen gathering scattered in my journal/blog. Would love to get female twins, that plant was huge by the time it went to flower.
 

polo the don

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That one seedling kinda looks like a bird to me. I know, I'm strange. I just got in from my morning run, hittin this haze and seeing birds. Them ChemDogs are just not for you. Looks like AutoSeeds has a few kinks to work out with that new strain. I can understand one out of a three pack having an issue but all of them? Shame on AS.
 

ayr0n

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That one seedling kinda looks like a bird to me. I know, I'm strange. I just got in from my morning run, hittin this haze and seeing birds. Them ChemDogs are just not for you. Looks like AutoSeeds has a few kinks to work out with that new strain. I can understand one out of a three pack having an issue but all of them? Shame on AS.
When I emailed em about it dude said "it's just one of those things that can happen with autos" w.e that means lol. I mean it could be something environmental causing it but you'd think my other girls would be having issues too...maybe the chem is less resillient to heat stress, cuz my temps are def not perfect...
 

polo the don

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"it's just one of those things that can happen with autos"

Wow, what a bland statement.
I understand the odd mutant pheno, I'm dealing with one now. It shouldn't happen with every seed in the pack. Looks like they didn't do enough testing or back crossing to stabilize. I don't know much about breeding, yet, but looks like they didn't do something right. Released it too soon.

At least everything else is rolling along smoothly.
 

ayr0n

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Idk if they are hungry for nitrogen or what but the smaller NL and both BRs are turning yellow fast. Fan and sugar leaves :/ buds still look good but Idk how long they'll last at this rate. I'll post some pictures tonight but it's not looking real great...not sure what happened all the sudden. Shit has kinda gone down hill since my pH meter broke . . .
 
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GroErr

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Idk if they are hungry for nitrogen or what but the smaller NL and both BRs are turning yellow fast. Fan and sugar leaves :/ buds still look good but Idk how long they'll last at this rate. I'll post some pictures tonight but it's not looking real great...not sure what happened all the sudden. Shit has kinda gone down hill since my pH meter broke . . .
Crap, sounds like you better get those under control quick, any pics? Sounds like maybe a combo of ph and N def.
 

ayr0n

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Crap, sounds like you better get those under control quick, any pics? Sounds like maybe a combo of ph and N def.
I agree with Gro. Pics please is we can help.
You know it might not be that bad, Maybe i'm just tripping because up until now they've been mostly green. The fan leaves are yellowing pretty quickly but the sugar leaves look str8, and the buds are definitely growing at a nice pace. This strain is supposed to have a short flowering time so maybe it's just the natural yellowing of the fans...I'll get pics up here within the next half hour

They looked a helluva lot worse under the hps for some reason. When I brought em out into regular light it was not nearly as bad as I thought from peaking n the tent this morning. Images are uploading now..
 
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ayr0n

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Crap, sounds like you better get those under control quick, any pics? Sounds like maybe a combo of ph and N def.
I agree with Gro. Pics please is we can help.
You know it might not be that bad, Maybe i'm just tripping because up until now they've been mostly green. The fan leaves are yellowing pretty quickly but the sugar leaves look str8, and the buds are definitely growing at a nice pace. This strain is supposed to have a short flowering time so maybe it's just the natural yellowing of the fans...I'll get pics up here within the next half hour

They looked a helluva lot worse under the hps for some reason. When I brought em out into regular light it was not nearly as bad as I thought from peaking n the tent this morning. Images are uploading now..
The big BR is still looking pretty good

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Some of the lower fan leaves on the Berry Ryder are yellowing up on the edges. A couple got nute burnt slightly too..IMAG0947.jpg
This Northern Lights is the worst as far as yellowing. Mostly the lower fan leaves.
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BR:
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GroErr

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Not bad Ayr0n, looks like it may be just starting to fade, I wouldn't be trying to fix it, may cause more trouble than it's worth, how long are you expecting that NL to go? If it only has 2-3 weeks to go I'd say you're good.
 

ayr0n

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Not bad Ayr0n, looks like it may be just starting to fade, I wouldn't be trying to fix it, may cause more trouble than it's worth, how long are you expecting that NL to go? If it only has 2-3 weeks to go I'd say you're good.
It should be right around 2-3 weeks from the breeders time, so I'd say more like 4 weeks from chop... Hopefully that one can hold out until then. It's the only pot that I mixed heavy w/ perlite so maybe it didn't have enough nutrients in the lesser amount of soil to sustain it..the larger NL is still almost entirely green top to bottom. Both BR's have light fading and should be about 2 weeks from chop (roughly)
 

GroErr

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It should be right around 2-3 weeks from the breeders time, so I'd say more like 4 weeks from chop... Hopefully that one can hold out until then. It's the only pot that I mixed heavy w/ perlite so maybe it didn't have enough nutrients in the lesser amount of soil to sustain it..the larger NL is still almost entirely green top to bottom. Both BR's have light fading and should be about 2 weeks from chop (roughly)
Yeah, don't worry about it, feed it with your normal schedule but I wouldn't be trying to fix the def for a few leaves this late.
 

polo the don

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Once again I agree with Gro. It's a lil late in the game. Keep them fed with that 3-3-3- you been using. Maybe that one with extra perlite could get a slightly stronger dose but overall they are still ok for this close to chop. Some growers, not me, let their plants fade off at the end. Some growers, not me, make their plants fade by withholding N and increasing P and K. Some plants fade on their own. Isn't it funny that the yellows are not so yellow when you take them out of intense yellow light.
 

GroErr

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Once again I agree with Gro. It's a lil late in the game. Keep them fed with that 3-3-3- you been using. Maybe that one with extra perlite could get a slightly stronger dose but overall they are still ok for this close to chop. Some growers, not me, let their plants fade off at the end. Some growers, not me, make their plants fade by withholding N and increasing P and K. Some plants fade on their own. Isn't it funny that the yellows are not so yellow when you take them out of intense yellow light.
Agreed, you're not going to fix those yellow leaves either way, as long as it doesn't get out of control normal feeding should keep it from deteriorating. Just keep a close eye on the healthy/green and bud development, make sure they're still up taking water/nutes in normal timeframes, if they're still drinking at normal rates they're healthy and will keep going fine. At this stage, short of getting root bound or lock-out, just keep them going and as healthy as possible. I've seen too many cases where trying to fix a small problem can quickly spiral out of control, particularly if you misread the initial problem.
 

ayr0n

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I know the breeder's time of 65 days from seed sounds ridiculous but these BR's might actually be done around the 70 day mark. They're on day ~52 from seed and are starting to swell, pistols retracting and darkening up, fan leaves fading...Hopefully this other tent gets here on time so I can harvest / dry without making the house reak like treez
 

GroErr

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I know the breeder's time of 65 days from seed sounds ridiculous but these BR's might actually be done around the 70 day mark. They're on day ~52 from seed and are starting to swell, pistols retracting and darkening up, fan leaves fading...Hopefully this other tent gets here on time so I can harvest / dry without making the house reak like treez
Just go by the trichs now Ayr0n, those breeder times have so many variables like environment, light, temps, humidity. Going by the trichs has never failed me, regardless of strain, indoor, outdoor, whatever, the trichs rule...
 
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