What is the purpose of poor people?

SmokeyDan

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Your one of those guys eh?
You win Smokey, the sun isn't the closest star...you are.
We're both right, it just depends on how one looks at it.

My point was simply that you have to redefine the intent of the question (what is the closest star) to have the sun as the answer.

I've no hard feelings.
 

ErieR33FER

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We're both right, it just depends on how one looks at it.

My point was simply that you have to redefine the intent of the question (what is the closest star) to have the sun as the answer.

I've no hard feelings.
Me either, but you could go on all day I bet eh? Haha how could I harbor bad feelings it's the net, your rhetoric entertained me.
 

SmokeyDan

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Me either, but you could go on all day I bet eh? Haha how could I harbor bad feelings it's the net, your rhetoric entertained me.
That's what I like about this place, lightly moderated, anything goes, and quick replies.

I'm a forum hopper. The last one I frequented was a conservative based one.

It might take all day for a thread to get five replies.

I was eventually banned for being too liberal.
 

CC Dobbs

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It seems like they are just here to smell bad and clog the roadway with their run down jalopeys. Why my M5 has to share the road with these degenerate indigents in their 1986 Corollas is beyond me.
Poor people are here on earth to laugh at you. It is a shame that you had to mention your car, that declaration says more about you than paragraphs of prose could. I might have empathized with you until that.

Messiah
 

a senile fungus

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Health is the first wealth - Ralph Waldo Emerson

I've seen many a poor person with a healthier outlook on life and healthier lifestyles than many a rich person.
 

oldtimer54

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The purpose of poor people is a two fold one.......# 1 is to make the more fortunate people realize just how lucky they are #2 .......who the fuck am I kidding there is no #2
 

Harrekin

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We're both right, it just depends on how one looks at it.

My point was simply that you have to redefine the intent of the question (what is the closest star) to have the sun as the answer.

I've no hard feelings.
Redefine the question? Are you fucking retarded?

The Sun (Latin: Sol) is 1 AU away.

Alpha Centari is approx 277,600 AU away.

Which star is closer?

And for the record, its not 400 "years away", its 4.37 light years, that is it would take 4.37 years to get there at light speed.
 

SmokeyDan

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Redefine the question? Are you fucking retarded?

The Sun (Latin: Sol) is 1 AU away.

Alpha Centari is approx 277,600 AU away.

Which star is closer?

And for the record, its not 400 "years away", its 4.37 light years, that is it would take 4.37 years to get there at light speed.
Are you suggesting we can travel at the speed of light?

We can't even do 1/100 the speed of light, but I don't think we're too far off from that.

Which is why 400 years away is more accurate than what you said.


I've watched countless science documentaries, even had an astronomy class. Alpha Centari is recognized as the closest star.

It just is. The sun isn't on that list.

Although, we'd probably need an astronomer or cosmological to tell us why.
 

Harrekin

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Are you suggesting we can travel at the speed of light?

We can't even do 1/100 the speed of light, but I don't think we're too far off from that.

Which is why 400 years away is more accurate than what you said.


I've watched countless science documentaries, even had an astronomy class. Alpha Centari is recognized as the closest star.

It just is. The sun isn't on that list.

Although, we'd probably need an astronomer or cosmological to tell us why.
So dumb.

It'd take Voyager 1 over 80,000 years to reach it.

And most books, etc will actually say "the closest star to the Sun is Alpha Centari".

Don't forget your helmet in the bath tho.
 

SmokeyDan

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So dumb.

It'd take Voyager 1 over 80,000 years to reach it.

And most books, etc will actually say "the closest star to the Sun is Alpha Centari".

Don't forget your helmet in the bath tho.
Voyager 1 wasn't designed for speed, and it was designed 50 years ago.

If we wanted to send something to AC I think we could do so significantly faster than Voyager 1.
 

SmokeyDan

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Its travelling at 11mi/s.

You got nothing, bro.
Wtf does that have to do with anything?

If we wanted to get there in a hurry, we'd put a rocket booster on it, sling shot it around Jupiter and then engage towards AC.

It would then be traveling significantly faster than Voyager 1.
 

NLXSK1

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Getting there is one thing, getting stopped is another. Basically if we could actually get close to the speed of light and had a propulsion system with enough fuel to reach there and back with the fuel on board or obtainable all we could do is get up to near light speed. On the other side we have to start decelerating a proportional amount of time. So it is probably more than twice that time to reach the star, much less to return.

Doing it now would likely need a global effort. Who knows though, in 100 years it might come as a do it yourself kit for kids.
 

heckler73

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Getting there is one thing, getting stopped is another. Basically if we could actually get close to the speed of light and had a propulsion system with enough fuel to reach there and back with the fuel on board or obtainable all we could do is get up to near light speed. On the other side we have to start decelerating a proportional amount of time. So it is probably more than twice that time to reach the star, much less to return.

Doing it now would likely need a global effort. Who knows though, in 100 years it might come as a do it yourself kit for kids.

Your body will vapourize before the pedal reaches metal, as every piece of dust becomes a meteorite relatively speaking (hyuck hyuck).
Then there are binding energies to consider.
It's one thing to drive particles through an accelerator, but the binding forces that make up you would be seriously strained under higher momenta. All that energy has to go somewhere.
Just think about all the physical changes around the system under consideration. All EM radiation would become higher frequency as it approaches (cf. Doppler effect).
And now that I think about it more, I have an inkling the "knee" in the E vs v/c chart is an important threshold.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_ionization_velocity
(Just another thing to think about before jumping into your Toyota UFO).

Conclusion:
Poor people can't travel anywhere near the speed of light. Rich people even less (too much baggage).
 

NoDrama

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It seems like they are just here to smell bad and clog the roadway with their run down jalopeys. Why my M5 has to share the road with these degenerate indigents in their 1986 Corollas is beyond me.
1986 corollas don't break down much, you must be thinking of Chevy cars on fire or the Ford Focus.
 

NoDrama

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wtf is an M5?
PoS Nazi vehicle made by Bavarian Motor Works.

The thing about fast cars is that its hard to ever drive fast. Traffic is so slow that you end up just going the speed limit getting 8MPG with your 600 HP machine cruisin at 65. Much more economical to drive some cheap car that gets great fuel mileage and save the nice car for the Sunday drive or for going out on the town. Otherwise keep it in the garage and well taken care of so you don't take it in the ass when you go to sell.
 

Red1966

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Like this?



Sol as in based from Latin, not English. Used in its adjectival form in 'solar system' meaning about, or around the sun...
A lot of English, or Spanish, or Portuguese, or Italian, etc are based in Latin. But they're still their respective language's words for whatever. Earth is affixed to Sol, just as your porch is affixed to your house. Earth is actually INSIDE Sol's heliosphere, a component of the star There are trillions of suns, yet you claim the word describes only one. You're arguing idiocy just for the sake of arguing. I'm done with it
 

Red1966

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Health is the first wealth - Ralph Waldo Emerson

I've seen many a poor person with a healthier outlook on life and healthier lifestyles than many a rich person.
But you still refer to them as "poor". Interesting. So you apparently do not agree with Emerson.
 

a senile fungus

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A lot of English, or Spanish, or Portuguese, or Italian, etc are based in Latin. But they're still their respective language's words for whatever. Earth is affixed to Sol, just as your porch is affixed to your house. Earth is actually INSIDE Sol's heliosphere, a component of the star There are trillions of suns, yet you claim the word describes only one. You're arguing idiocy just for the sake of arguing. I'm done with it
You don't seriously refer to the Sun as Sol, especially not in this language. Don't expect me to believe that, Red.

Are you saying that if I asked you where the nearest sun is you would still point out the proxima centauri star system?
 
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